WBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

10 of 41 from the field, 5 of 12 from the free throw line. There's just nothing falling. Only scored 4 points in each of the middle 2 quarters. Not over yet but it's going to take a heck of a comeback.

[Jester1390]

Momentum change maybe Thornton makes that layup I might be saying spoke 2 soon

[Jester1390]

Spoke to soon. I have not seen a game where both teams just don't score for 5 min stretches more understandable on Transy they live and die by the 3 and trine was doing a good job closing. But offensively they are not nothing special how on the heck did they out  score hope.  If Transy made free throws they would be ahead now 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Yeah, it's nice to hear the crowd get back in it. Refs haven't been the greatest tonight. Past couple minutes I've seen a missed travel on Trine, and a two-hand shove in the back not called. Lead is down to 6 with 4:22 left.
Trine isn't doing much better offensively, their low for the season is 50 against Hope. Transy hasn't been held under 60 this year.

[Jester1390]

Trine just ended 7 min not scoring

[Jester1390]

It's over now. And like at any level.  Man free throws are just so important and they just were not good there.  A great season though by Transy. Only lose 2 players but teams should learn from trine. Don't give up the perimeter at all make them beat you inside   I have never seen trine play so maybe just a bad game for them offensively but I just don't see how they advance unless they can ride that defense all the way.  I love defense and they are the best defensive team I seen this year

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Yeah, 8 of 16 from the FT line and down 6 points with half a minute left. Just shoot 75% and it's a one possession game. It's been a great season, last team in all of D3 (men or women) undefeated. Defense was still great tonight, it was just an abysmal offensive display after the 1st quarter.

[Roundball999]

It's over now. And like at any level.  Man free throws are just so important and they just were not good there.  A great season though by Transy. Only lose 2 players but teams should learn from trine. Don't give up the perimeter at all make them beat you inside   I have never seen trine play so maybe just a bad game for them offensively but I just don't see how they advance unless they can ride that defense all the way.  I love defense and they are the best defensive team I seen this year

I've seen a lot of Trine and trust me, that was a typical Trine game.  They didn't shoot quite as well as usual, but it's their defense that wins games for them.  At tournament time, that is key because you can always play hard nosed defense even when he shots aren't falling on a particular night

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Considering how bad it felt like Transy was doing at points, the stats are pretty close between the teams.

Trine 19 of 49 shooting, Transy 17 of 58. 3s were similar, Trine 5 of 19, Pioneers 5 of 24.
Transylvania won on the boards 44-31 with 17 offensive boards.
Trine won the turnover battle 17-12 but Transy had more points off turnovers 17-13.
Points in the paint pretty even, Transy with the edge 24-22.

Bench points... Trine 27-3. There's the big one, Pioneers had nothing outside the starting 5 while half of Trines points were from the bench.

[Enginerd]

The only three teams that really gave Transy trouble this year were old-school teams committed to defending - really committed to defending. Trine was the one team in the NCAA Tournament that Transy could possibly have run into - that was similar to RHIT in their commitment to defending - except Trine is obviously more talented and deeper than RHIT - and I suspected that Trine was the one team in their region that they didn't want to have to play. Ironically I think Hope would have been a better match-up for Transy than Trine.

Transy is really good but their few flaws showed up big-time last night. They are way too dependent on Stacy and Kellione for too high of a percentage of their points. I figure Transy needs a minimum of 35 points per outing from those two to be assured that they'll defeat good, talented, deep teams. A quick look at their few close games this year bears that out. Kellione and Stacy scored around 35 points in their games that were close this year:
- 34 points in a 1-point win vs. Tufts
- 33 points in a 10-point win at Franklin - always a tough place to play for anyone
- 36 and 40 points, respectively, in their two games vs. RHIT - a 7 point win in Lexington and a 4-point win in overtime in Terre Haute.
- 50 vs. John Carroll
- 36 vs. UMHB
- Finally, and the best evidence for my assertion, only 24 points vs. Trine.

When playing HCAC teams in general or non-conference teams not committed to defending, Transy just did whatever they wanted to their opponents this year and controlled the tempo with their press and their offensive rebounding - getting 40-70% of their points from two players - but to truly take that next step they need a genuine inside threat and one more kid that can score at the same level as Stacy and Kellione.

When you rely on making 3's and getting offensive rebounds, you'll run into issues with teams that won't let you easily shoot from distance and are committed to blocking out. That's why playing at home is so important to Transy - they need to make a ton of 3's and need to play as many games as possible, especially the ones against good teams, in the place they are most comfortable. Having said that, I'm not suggesting that's why they advanced to the Elite 8 - they would have advanced that far with the draw they received regardless where the games were played.

Nevertheless a wonderful season for Transy - they proved that they are a legit Top-10 team in the final polls and should be ranked pretty high to start the season next year. they don't lose anything they cannot replace easily and if they pick up some length and another dynamic scorer or two in the 2022 recruiting class that are capable of stepping in and helping right away - they might be able to take it a game or two further next year.

[Baldini]

Agree with most all of that Enginerd. Trine was one of the few teams I was hoping they could avoid on their attempt to get to the final four.

Massey was pretty much right on with their numbers for the game, they had Trine winning by 7 with a most likely score of 62-55 and Trine won by 7. In simulating a 7-game series yesterday Massey had Trine winning 5 of the 7 and was kind of how I looked at it also. Transylvania had a punchers chance but would have less room for error than Trine and would need some players to have a better than usual effort to pull it off. Trine was the better team and is a very worthy final four rep. If the bracket had been laid out a little different, I believe Transylvania may have made the next step to get to Pittsburgh, but a very young team will need to wait another year to get their final four chance.     

[Jester1390]

lol i give an opinion that a young lady isnt getting the attention she deserves in my opinion  and i get smites what the **** is wrong with you people.  pretty soon there will be 7 of you commenting only and  you can have a big circle  and just nod along in agreement on your opinion

[Pat Coleman]

lol i give an opinion that a young lady isnt getting the attention she deserves in my opinion  and i get smites what the **** is wrong with you people.  pretty soon there will be 7 of you commenting only and  you can have a big circle  and just nod along in agreement on your opinion

Could be when you tried to put words in my mouth but what do I know? Also, not a fan of having to come over here as well to answer your comments about a post you made on the CCIW board.

[Jester1390]

oh my god you must be exhausted on clicking a button how do you keep everything straight in your mind. 2 boards you must be terrible at bingo

[Pat Coleman]

oh my god you must be exhausted on clicking a button how do you keep everything straight in your mind. 2 boards you must be terrible at bingo

Is this a road you really want to continue down?