South Region Rankings and Playoffs

Started by Ralph Turner, February 01, 2009, 04:08:59 PM

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golden_dome

#75
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2009, 05:06:37 PM
BRACKET 7
1 Oglethorpe *
2 Greensboro *
3 Texas-Dallas
4 Howard Payne
5 Randolph-Macon
6 Christopher Newport
7 Transylvania *
8 Maryville (Tenn.) *

Projected bracket--

IMHO CNU knocked the third ASC team out of the tourney.

Oglethorpe hosts the *teams.

I hope to see the UTD site get a tourney.



Ralph,
I'm not sure I agree with the projection for South teams. Obviously I want the MC women in but they have a good argument against the two ASC teams mentioned, especially HSU.

MC was one spot behind UTD in the final regular season regional rankings so they were obviously close. We have identical regional records,  we split for the season, we both lost in the first round of the ASC Tournament with MC losing to the much better team, and MC's strength of schedule numbers should be higher. It's at least close.

With HSU I don't know why they would be in the conversation for a Pool C MC is not. We have a much better regional record with two less losses, we should have a better strength of schedule in addtion and we also beat them head to head on their court.

I don't see how they could possibly be ahead of us at this point. Losses in the conference tournaments don't hurt anymore than regular season losses.

Ralph Turner

#76
Chris, Hardin-Simmons is not projected to get a bid.   (HPU earned the Pool A bid.)

The ASC has knocked itself out of another bid...Mississippi College!   >:(

If the ASC-East were a conference, then #2 Mississippi College beats the #3 seed LaColl.  That gives another in-region game and you lose in the finals to #1 seed UTD.

I think that is what knocks MissCollege out of the tourney, if this comes to pass.


My bad.  I saw that HSU was next up on the table from the South Region in the projections.

They played two more in-region games?

noxo

What Region will Spalding be assigned to?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: noxo on September 10, 2009, 10:51:19 AM
What Region will Spalding be assigned to?
Kentucky has traditionally been assigned to the South Region.

However, the women and men may assign teams to different regions, even in conferences that are multi-region.

My guess is that Spalding will be treated as an SLIAC team, and will be put in the Central Region for Women and Midwest Region for Men.

Ralph Turner

South Region Record Overall Record
1. Christopher Newport 22-0 23-0  USAC
2. Roanoke 18-2 20-2  ODAC
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor 18-4 19-4  ASC-West
4. Louisiana College 16-2 19-2     ASC-East (hosting the ASC Play-in Tourney   ;) )
5. Mississippi College 18-5 18-5    ASC-East
6. Howard Payne 18-5 18-5         ASC-West

GSAC -- Maryville has clinched the #1 seed, and plays Piedmont on Feb 20th.
SCAC-East -- DePauw (Great Lakes region) leads the SCAC-East.
SCAC-West -- Hendrix has clinched the SCAC-West #1 seed.

Darkhorse -- UDallas in the NEAC. (Massey Ratings has UDallas as the highest rated NEAC team at #1319. SUNY-Cobleskill (second-year provisional) is next #1424.  Keuka is 3rd at #1479.)

It will be interesting to see how the "Texas Bracket" fills out, if there will be a "Texas Bracket". The ASC winner might get shipped somewhere else.  If the ASC were split and we had 2 bids, there is a chance that one team might host a first round tourney.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

My Mock regional Rankings:


1.Greensboro16-0USAC
2.Louisiana College15-1ASC
3.Christopher Newport15-1USAC
4. Texas-Dallas14-3ASC
5.Hardin-Simmons12-3ASC
6.Randolph-Macon   12-2ODAC

All regional records.  First attempt at this.  Any thoughts?  Who should be included.  I know an SCAC team and GSAC team is not represented here.

Ralph Turner

#81
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/0312ac804564e6d699f1df90a48a4ecb/2011+Women%27s+Basketball+Handbook.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=0312ac804564e6d699f1df90a48a4ecb

Handbook does not explicitly tell how many teams per region other than the Northeast, so I agree with 6.

No SCAC South Region team deserves ranking.

I will rank DePauw in my Great Lakes Rankings.

scottiedoug

Maryville is 11-3 in D3 and lost to Greensboro, Wartburg, and Cantre.  I imagine Wartburg (undefeated when Maryville played them) is not in-region, so they are 11-2 in region.  Many of their wins are against poor teams, so I do not know if they are any good.  They beat Piedmont at Piedmont last weekend and play LaGrange this Saturday.  Both Piedmont and LaGrange are having good years....

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

I am pretty fired up about seeing these regional rankings, and not to see how my rankings compared, but to see where these teams align. 5 South region teams made it to the NCAA last year.  GSAC not ranked in the rankings, and ODAC low could mean that only one ASC team gets in.  Does the USASouth get two teams in at the end? Could there be more than 6 or more teams from the south getting into the tournament. I am very intrigued about this.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

South Region
1.Greensboro17-018-0
2.Christopher Newport16-218-2
3.Louisiana College 15-117-1
4.Randolph-Macon14-214-4
5.Roanoke11-3 11-4
6.Texas-Dallas15-416-4


No major surprises.  Although I didn't expect to see Roanoke crack the rankings.  

2 USASouth
2 ODAC
2 ASC

17-0 in region for Greensboro.  Which of their games didn't count?  My guess is Bennett.

What is the potential at this point (if the season were to end now) that the USASouth hosts the 1st-2nd rounds?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Guy - what did I tell you about CNU on Hoopsville? :)
Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:40:52 PM
Guy - what did I tell you about CNU on Hoopsville? :)

I was waiting for that! :)

At least I have 82 degree outside temperature down here :P

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

It's in the high-40's here as the massive winter storm is staying west and north of us (slightly jealous)...
Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

Bammer

Looks like the ODAC could be in danger of receiving only 1 bid with Randolph Macon losing last night to Washington and Lee and with Roanoke losing last week to Eastern Mennonite.  If Bridgewater were to win out and get to at least the conference tournament championship game, they might receive a bid even with a tournament loss.