MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference

[Cards7580]

"...Its just to far!!..."

Why is it that everyone from Exit 39 of the Thruway WEST think it is too far to travel to Plattsburgh for them or their team, but barely ever consider the length of the SAME trips in reverse for either Potsdam or Plattsburgh ?

[Pat Coleman]

Not a good start for Plattsburgh so far tonight:

http://cat.middlebury.edu/~sports/livestats/basketball/xlive.htm

Triple whammy -- 4-for-22 from the floor, outrebounded 17-13 and 10 turnovers

[Cards7580]

"...I have a close friend who is a dean at MIT, and he says their attitude is "if we accept them, we are responsible to see that they graduate".  Since the grad rate at MIT (a D-III school) is 92%, with all due respect to my sibling institution in Plattsburgh, don't think we're in that class...."

I was refering to athletic graduation rates not general student graduation rates.  Having met many MIT, Ivy league and sub-ivy graduates, I think most of the SUNY schools can offer a fairly good education for alot less of the cost.
The two big aspect the SUNY system lacks is the HYPE and alumni donor base.   I know PHD professors at large midwest colleges who got undergraduate degrees from Cortland and Buffalo and they have no problem in the "class" department.    To compare entire student graduation rates of SUNY to IVY or the likes of MIT is really apples to oranges. The SUNY system is run by the state, all of the other colleges are private institutions with the ability to charge more and demand more of the top students.   The SUNY system would collapse completely if they were mandated to only accepted what Harvard, Yale and MIT takes. Most of the SUNY schools are required (by law I think) to accept EEOP or EEOC (forgot which acronym) students.  These are kids without the minimum standard to get in, but have shown the qualities of being possibly able to handle college level courses if given the chance.  IT was also based on need. 

I would also tend to believe that the SUNY charter has the same statement as the MIT dean states above.  If half the people you accept as Freshman don't make it past to or past Sophomore year I doubt that any institution would be getting many students and be still operating.  SUNY was around before I got there in 1975 and is still plugging away in 2008.

[thebear]

Potsdam wasn't too far in the 80's to host, but then we put 3,500 into the gym & tied up the fire marshal in the janitor's closet (just kidding).  

But - any chance the NCAA had to not have us host, they used, in '84 when we lost by a point to North Park in the National Championship Game, we had to play the regionals at Hartwick, even though we had only three losses.  Hartwick was on break, and attendance was underwhelming at best.

If Plattsburgh wins the regular season and conference tournament, they should be a lock for a first round bye, and to host a second round game.  That's what we did in '05.  With Rochester & Amherst populating the top Ranks of D-III, I'll bet the regionals will be at Amherst, just like they were in '06 with three New York teams, including an undefeated St. John Fisher club.  LeFrak is a sorry excuse for a tournament site, (no parking, or concessions) but if your school has a big enough name and enough influence in D-III circles, it doesn't seem to matter.

[Cards7580]

Hunt with three fouls Williams with two fouls  probably riding the pines.

Middlebury shooting over 50% from FG and 3Pt range and 5 blocked shots. 

[Pat Coleman]

Potsdam wasn't too far in the 80's to host, but then we put 3,500 into the gym & tied up the fire marshal in the janitor's closet (just kidding). 

But - any chance the NCAA had to not have us host, they used, in '84 when we lost by a point to North Park in the National Championship Game, we had to play the regionals at Hartwick, even though we had only three losses.  Hartwick was on break, and attendance was underwhelming at best.

If Plattsburgh wins the regular season and conference tournament, they should be a lock for a first round bye, and to host a second round game.  That's what we did in '05.  With Rochester & Amherst populating the top Ranks of D-III, I'll bet the regionals will be at Amherst, just like they were in '06 with three New York teams, including an undefeated St. John Fisher club.  LeFrak is a sorry excuse for a tournament site, (no parking, or concessions) but if your school has a big enough name and enough influence in D-III circles, it doesn't seem to matter.

Actually, seeding has become even more important in recent years, it seems. Size of the gymnasium is not very important right now -- if a gym meets the minimum standards, and that seems now to be 1,100 or so where they will clear the gym in between games if needed -- then the highest seed seems to be hosting.

In the 90s, when I started following this, hosting the sectionals alternated between regions, but that's no longer in play.

[Pat Coleman]

Big run for Plattsburgh.

[magicman]

Plattsburgh State defeats Middlebury 78-74 at Middlebury.

[Cards7580]

What a come back.  Down by as many as 22 point in the 2nd half.    AWESOME .....
AT Middlebury.   

[Cards7580]

Thank You  D3Hoops for hosting all of these games for US to either listen too, see or follow with the LIVE statistics.

[magicman]

Plattsburgh down by as many as 22 in the second half comes back to down Middlebury on a late 3 pt basket and key free throws down the stretch. Halftime score Middlebury up 38-21.

[jdex]

    Plattsburgh first lead on K. Hunt layup at 2:06 for 72-71 edge. Knotted at 72; Williams trey at 1:27, then his two ft for 77-74 lead at 0:33. T. Gorham ft at 0:03. Cards 27x56fg, 19x25ft, 5x13 3s. A. Williams 29 pts(10x22fg, 3x7 3s); A. Miller 18 pts(7x10fg); Gorham 11 pts, 9 rebs

[jdex]

   Brockport at home trims Cortland 78-65. Leads 38-28 at half and never seriously challenged. B. Williams 22 pts(9x16fg), 14 rebs in 30'; Sherod Harris 15 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s), 4 blks, 5 stls, 5 assts; D. Maldonado 11 pts(4x5fg) in 13'; C. Parrish 8 pts, 8 rebs, 9 trnvrs. Port 40-24 reb bulge, shoots 28x56fg, 8x19 3s. Corts 27x61fg. P. Oliver 16 pts(8x14fg), 7 rebs; M. Lewis 13 pts(5x7fg) in 26'; M. Schaller 12 pts(4x6 3s); W. Coston 4 stls, 4 pts

[Pat Coleman]

Thank You  D3Hoops for hosting all of these games for US to either listen too, see or follow with the LIVE statistics.

Sure thing, but most of the credit has to go to the SIDs, who post that info on our site. We just provide the framework for them to use.

[jdex]

   Oneonta buried at Ithaca 95-57. IC sinks 16x27 3s. S. Burton 21 pts(6x10 3s). Bombers 32x59fg. OSt 22x80fg. R. Stokes 12 pts; R. Fisk 3 pts(1x6 3s)