MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference

[Caz Bombers]

Buff State's website confirms they are the 2 seed and will play Cortland; Geneseo-BPort in the 1-8.  Interesting interpretation by the SUNYAC, I would have guessed they used the "NFL method" of reverting to Step 1 and H2H whenever the initial tie is broken.

[magicman]

Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker, which means Geneseo should be #1 (by being 1-1 vs. #5 Fredonia) and Buffalo St. should be #2 (by being 0-2 vs. #5 Fredonia). Geneseo and Buffalo St. are not compared in a 2-way head-to-head since the tie for first was a four-team tie, not a two-team tie. The "head-to-head" component of the tiebreaker, therefore, has Geneseo and Buffalo St. even at 3-1.

The official word, of course, will come from the SUNYAC, but my unofficial take on this has 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego, 4) Oneonta, 5) Fredonia, 6) Potsdam, 7) Cortland and 8 ) Brockport.

Fran,

That's what I come up with as well.

Fran,

It's official. Pairings from the SUNYAC website:

#8 Brockport at #1 Geneseo

#5 Fredonia at #4 Oneonta

#6 Potsdam at #3 Oswego

#7 Cortland at #2 Buffalo St.

[Pat Coleman]

Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker,

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

[Caz Bombers]

I feel like in this case they got to the right conclusion the wrong way.  All things considered, 17-8 Geneseo is probably better than 14-10 Buff State, but the Bengals did beat the Knights.

[thebear]

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

In this case, IMHO Geneseo would agree with you.  They are drawing the hottest team in the league, who just beat them on Saturday, and the Knights were missing their most athletic starter.  Meanwhile Buff State draws a skidding Cortland team.  I'm sure the Knights would have gladly been the #2 seed, as Brockport can beat anyone in the league the way they are playing.

Also Caz, Buff State had a wretched (0-6) start but has been on a roll since the semester break, I think they're 14-4 in their last 20.

[FranElia]

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

Pat, I think the rationale behind this is that it's not a 2-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo St., it's a 4-way tie that also includes Oswego and Oneonta. Head-to-head is applied to the 4-way tie, and the teams that remain tied move to the next step after head-to-head.

That said, I definitely see the logic in going to 2-way head-to-head if the 4-way head-to-head still leaves two tied teams.

I'd be curious to see how other leagues handle multiple-team (3 or more) ties. If anyone knows of other league's tiebreakers available online, let me know.

Thanks.

Fran

[magicman]

Oswego leads Potsdam 66-48 with 13 mins to play in the 2nd half.

[magicman]

Brockport stomping Geneseo 58-37 with 8:42 left to play.

[jdex]

Cortland survives short backcourt to knock off Buffalo St. 68-65 when big men M. Lewis and P. Oliver come up huge

[magicman]

Cortland drops Buffalo St 68-65

Geneseo loses to Brockport

Top 2 seeds are history

As thebear says "you gotta love the YAC"

[magicman]

Potsdam, down 21 to Oswego with 11 mins to play rallies to close the gap but comes up short as the Lakers win 92-87. Oswego will host the final 4 this weekend.

[jdex]

Bport 78, Geneseo 64

[jdex]

Cortland survives late host Buffalo St. push. RDragons on front side of 38-36 lead at half and build 56-47 margin with just under seven minutes left. Bengals, pressing throughout, battle back within 65-63 at 1:15. CSt misfires from ft line and BS from field. J. Miolen gets clincher on breakaway with long R. Evans pass at 0:07. Miolen steadies shaky Cort backcourt in 40' effort. Has eight (of team 20 in 27x51fg) assts, 10 pts, 5 rebs. M. Lewis delivers 18 pts(6x10fg AND 6x8ft), 5 rebs, 2 assts, 2 stls in 36'; C. Niehoff 21 pts(9x17fg), 3x8 3s), 6 rebs, 6 assts in 39'; P. Oliver 10 rebs, 8 pts(4x6fg) in 30'. Ailing W. Coston sees 2' of action. BS J. Gray 15 pts(7x18fg), 7 assts, 3 stls; AJ White 14 pts; J. Tyndal 11 pts(3x18fg)

Brockport  on target early at Geneseo, taking 38-22 lead at half. Gens never a threat. Port 22x54fg, 9x20 3s, 25x31ft. J. Clarke 19 pts; J. Johnson 16 pts; M. Wilkes 13 pts; J. Zenkel 11 pts; A. Marchand 11 pts. Knights M. Hoy only double figure scorer with 25 pts; Jostens Trophy candidate S. Morton 9 pts(3x13fg), 11 rebs. Gens 21x48fg

[jdex]

Fredonia wire to wire at Oneonta wins 83-65

Final Four at Oswego ......

Friday semis: Fredonia-Brockport, Cortland-Oswego

[scooterman]

Magic-Sorry so late getting to post but you should have seen me hit the ball on the par 5's on Sunday. I was untouchable!!! I do feel for you but my Eagles are on fire!! Bring on the Fred's--The boys are feeling it---" Just go out and have some fun." The YAC's are up for grabs.  Magic--you are always welcome to come and play some golf. Scooterman