MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference

magicman · February 17, 2009, 10:34:47 PM

With Buffalo St. losing tonight Geneseo can clinch 1st place with 1 win in their last 2 games. Only Oswego still with a slim possibility.

thebear · February 17, 2009, 10:36:55 PM

Ya gotta love the 'Yac.

Fredonia sweeps season series from Buff State (which is 9-2 over last 11, only losses to devils).

Bears get smoked in Cortland, then come back and beat Dragons on senior night.

Sorry I'm gonna be away for the playoffs.

P.S. Dex - you need to start the Jessica Laing AA drive for the women, she's a tremendous player.

magicman · February 18, 2009, 01:31:11 AM

Oneonta takes care of visiting New Paltz 76-63. Oneonta grabs largest 1st half lead 18-12 with 12:24 to play but the Hawks reverse deficit and lead at the break 35-32. Back and forth early 2nd half with 42 all tie at the 15:51 mark. Red Dragons go on 11-0 run to take control. Stretch lead to as much as 18 and coast home.
Michael Grimes was the game's high scorer leading the Red Dragons with 23 pts on 10x14 shooting. Ryan Morin added 18 pts on 8x15 fgs, and Maurice Lane had 10 pts on 4x6 fgs along with 7 rebounds. Brian Beckford's all around play added 11 boards, 5 pts, 3 assists and 3 blocks. New Paltz led by Connor Cornine with 18 pts on 8x13 fgs, Harris Wichard with 17pts on 6x8 fgs 3x3 3's and Lee Bertram with 14 pts on 7x15 fgs. Red Dragons 27x54 fgs 20x27 fts, Hawks 25x48 fgs 5x8 fts.

Oneonta goes to 11-5 clinching 3rd place and a home game for 1st round of the playoffs. Likely opponent is Fredonia or Cortland. Oneonta can't move up or down in the standings.

scooterman · February 19, 2009, 10:57:11 AM

Magic- Thanks for the info regarding my Eagles--I think they are going to win their final games this weekend vs. Cortland and Geneseo. They lost by 8 at Cortland and have had two nailbiters against Geneseo. That should be an exciting Senior night game for the guys. If they beat Cortland on Friday that will be a huge incentive for Saturday--They control their own destiny!!!Do it Eagles---Scooter in Florida heading to the golf course--Enjoy the weather up their boys!!!

jdex · February 20, 2009, 10:08:06 PM

Fredonia 64, Geneseo 59
Potsdam 74, New Paltz 71
Brockport 71, Cortlqnd 53
Plattsburgh 73, Morrisville 45

jdex · February 20, 2009, 10:24:22 PM

Fredonia shoots down Geneseo 28-25 halftime lead. B. Cooper 18 pts; L. Smith 12 pts; B. Morse 10 rebs. Gens J. Howe 13 pts including career 1,000; B. Simpson 11 pts

Potsdam up 33-26 at half at New Paltz. D. Brown 20 pts; S. Clement 18 pts. Bears 24x49fg, 21x28ft. NP H. Wichard 23 pts; C. Cornine 21 pts. Hawks 26x73fg, 12x16ft

Brockport seizes 37-21 halftime lead vs. Cortland, coasts. M. Wilkes 19 pts. Eagles 23x55fg, 16x20ft, 9x24 3s. Corts M. Lewis 15 pts, 13 rebs; C. Niehoff 13 pts(2x13fg); P. Oliver 13 rebs. RDragons 18x49fg, 2x14 3s. Without injured W. Coston

Plattsburgh over Mville 34-18 at half. Cards 34x60fg. C Ruiz 13 pts; B. Mader 12 pts. Stangs K. Gordon 15 pts; B. Eddy 10 rebs

magicman · February 20, 2009, 10:25:42 PM

jdex,

I needed your Cortland boys to take care of Brockport tonight. What happened? Now I'm sweatin bullets that Geneseo can take care of the Eagles tomorrow night.

jdex · February 20, 2009, 10:31:06 PM

Just typical Cortland game this season. No surprise here ......Brockport senior night. Wilkes & Co. light it up from outside. As mentioned Corts without injured W. Coston and Niehoff fires at 2x13ft clip

jdex · February 20, 2009, 10:33:27 PM

Buffalo St. 90, Oswego 83

magicman · February 20, 2009, 11:47:08 PM

jdex or bear help me out here,

A week ago I said the top 5 teams could all end up 11-5. That's not going to happen but if Geneseo loses tomorrow night at Brockport, then there will be 4 teams tied at 11-5. Head to head doesn't work since Oneonta beat Buff St. Geneseo beat Oswego and Oneonta, Oswego beat Oneonta twice, Buff St beat Geneseo and Oswego twice. So I'm thinking it's whoever has the best record against the other three teams they are tied with. Geneseo is 3-1 against the other 3 teams and Buff St is 3-1 against the other 3 teams. Oswego is 2-4 and Oneonta is 1-3. Would that leave just Geneseo and Buff St.? And since Buff St owns a win in the only game against Geneseo, then Buff St. would win the regular season crown. This is crazy!!!

thebear · February 21, 2009, 03:54:09 AM

My preferred scenario would be for Geneseo to beat Brockport and solve the equation, and insure that the Cards get the #8 spot.

Cards must be wary of NP, gave the Bears quite the Tussle. Short on manpower since 3 key mid-season losses, but very athletic and scrappy.

The permutations & combinations of a four way tie make my head hurt!

FranElia · February 21, 2009, 10:10:25 AM

Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
jdex or bear help me out here,

A week ago I said the top 5 teams could all end up 11-5. That's not going to happen but if Geneseo loses tomorrow night at Brockport, then there will be 4 teams tied at 11-5. Head to head doesn't work since Oneonta beat Buff St. Geneseo beat Oswego and Oneonta, Oswego beat Oneonta twice, Buff St beat Geneseo and Oswego twice. So I'm thinking it's whoever has the best record against the other three teams they are tied with. Geneseo is 3-1 against the other 3 teams and Buff St is 3-1 against the other 3 teams. Oswego is 2-4 and Oneonta is 1-3. Would that leave just Geneseo and Buff St.? And since Buff St owns a win in the only game against Geneseo, then Buff St. would win the regular season crown. This is crazy!!!

Magicman,

I think you're partially correct on your analysis. In a four-way tie, if I remember correctly, you first look at head-to-head vs. all the tied teams. This puts Geneseo and Buffalo St. each at 3-1, like you mentioned.

However, I don't think you go back to head-to-head once two teams are pulled out from the first step. You continue on with the next step, which is how did teams do vs. each team down the list (in this case, starting with #5, then #6, etc.). I think Geneseo wins this regardless of whether #5 is just Fredonia (if they beat Cortland today) or if #5 is a combination of Fredonia-Potsdam-Cortland (if Cortland wins at Fredonia).

Again, my analysis is totally unofficial - I'm just doing this off the top of my head after reading the tiebreaker rules a few days ago. The league will obviously announce the official pairings once the smoke clears. But from what I can tell, we're looking at 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego and 4) Oneonta regardless of the Geneseo-Brockport outcome today.

Fran

scooterman · February 21, 2009, 02:33:18 PM

The Eagles have completed half the solution to getting into the playoffs--If they can't get enough momentum from Senior night with all those Seniors making contributions I will be extremely disappointed. Do it Eagles--Good luck

magicman · February 21, 2009, 06:20:56 PM

Quote from: scooterman on February 21, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
The Eagles have completed half the solution to getting into the playoffs--If they can't get enough momentum from Senior night with all those Seniors making contributions I will be extremely disappointed. Do it Eagles--Good luck

Scooter.
Eagles job got a lot tougher with Geneseo losing last night. From articles I read today Geneseo needs to win tonight to claim #1 seed. If they had clinched last night they wouldn't have anything to play for against your Eagles this evening. Also, jdex said that last night was Brockport's Senior Night. I hope he was right.

magicman · February 21, 2009, 08:07:26 PM

Plattsburgh St. defeats host New Paltz 57-54. Awaits outcome of Geneseo- Brockport game to see if they get the 8th seed.