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thebear

Bengals, having been around this league since the Randy Smith era, (and having grown up with Buff State HOf'rs Kozlowski & Piorkowski, - I go WAY back), any given SUNY team, can beat any other SUNY team on a given night.  Just think what a close call you had over the weekend with Oneonta, which is a young, rebuilding team, that could very well finish last in the conference.  All it takes is one injury, a hot shooter, the wrong ref in the wrong building, and games are lost.

I would be careful with the trash talking, Oswego has all the parts needed to repeat their performance of last season, good bigs, good shooters, good coaching (Jason Leone is an excellent coach), good guard play and lots of size coming off the bench.  I'm sure your post is in their locker room already.

Do not underestimate Hayden Ward.  In my opinion he is one of the top five players in the conference, and is relentless, never takes a play off.

It isn't always about gaudy stats.  When Potsdam had their 60 game win streak, their leading scorer only averaged 15 points per game, but he was the national player of the year in 1987.
During the streak, Potsdam outscored their opponents by an average of 25 points per game, but no one on the Bears team had exceptional individual stats.
"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"
- Sgt. Joe Friday

FranElia

Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
One time he must have moved so fast, Port and the stat guys didn't even see him score, so they just wrote down Chad Burridge and credited him with 2 more points. (14:02 of the first half).

That basket was a made tip-in by Burridge. It shows up that way on Brockport's play-by-play. However, the PrestoSports system that is being used for box scores this year for the first time must have a small glitch and doesn't know how to translate the tip-in code (in Statcrew, L is layup, J is jumper and P is tip-in).

The stat geek portion of our show is now over. Real basketball discussion may now resume.  :D

magicman

New Paltz guard/foward Harris Wichard was named as one of the forwards to the D3hoops Team of the Week for the week ending Dec.4th. Congratulations to him. It marked the 2nd straight week a player from New Paltz gained weekly honors on the Team of the Week as Matt Devine was given the honor last week. I thought Jake Simmons might get a spot on the weekly team as well, but the 2 guards that were chosen (Matt Addison/Hardin Simmons, and Markieth Wilson/Rust College, both had monster weeks and were deserving so I can see why Jake was left off. Plus it's tough for 2 players from the same conference to make it on the team in the same week.

What's interesting is that Jake was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending December 4th. In addition he was also named as the ECAC Upstate Division III Player of the Week.

Here are the stat lines for Harris and Jake from last week. Both were outstanding.

Wichard: 3 game total- Team was 2-1  70 points (22-27-21), 22x43 FG (51.1%), 5x15 3's (33.3%), 21x31 FT (67.7 %), 27 rebounds, 10 assists, 1 steal, 109 minutes played out of 120.

Simmons: 3 game total-Team was 3-0  75 points (27-27-21), 25x49 FG (51.0%), 11x25 3's ) (44.0%), 14x16 FT (87.5%), 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 9 steals, 104 minutes played out of 120.

Harris was named to the team as a Forward so they were not comparing Wichard's week against Simmons' week.  Have to figure Jake was under consideration though for one of the guard positions.

Interesting that their teams played each other last week. In the game between New Paltz and Buffalo St. they both scored 21 points, Jake's FG % was 46.6 (7x15) to 37.5 (6x16) for Harris. Harris was 7x9 from the line and Jake was 5x7.  They both were 2x6 from behind the arc. Harris had 6 rebounds to 3 for Jake. Jake had 5 steals to 0 for Harris. Harris had 5 assists to 0 for Jake. Jake won the most important battle though as his team came away with the road win 89-83.  ;D

Bengalsrule

Quote from: thebear on December 07, 2011, 03:04:42 PM

I would be careful with the trash talking, Oswego has all the parts needed to repeat their performance of last season, good bigs, good shooters, good coaching (Jason Leone is an excellent coach), good guard play and lots of size coming off the bench.  I'm sure your post is in their locker room already.


No trash talking here. I was just responding to another post and that posters opinion that Oswego would beat Buff State Sat. I thought that a BUFF State perspective might be appropriate as to why the BENGALS should win. Nothing more...nothing less... "just the facts". The facts about Oswego are clear with regards to Starters mins and subs production. I thought that I would offer my opinion on who would win and how, which is what we ALL do on these blogs!

I'm gonna focus on Cortland now since thats the next opponent that the BENGALS will face! ;)

Win or lose Saturday will take care of itself!

magicman

Quote from: franelia on December 07, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
One time he must have moved so fast, Port and the stat guys didn't even see him score, so they just wrote down Chad Burridge and credited him with 2 more points. (14:02 of the first half).

That basket was a made tip-in by Burridge. It shows up that way on Brockport's play-by-play. However, the PrestoSports system that is being used for box scores this year for the first time must have a small glitch and doesn't know how to translate the tip-in code (in Statcrew, L is layup, J is jumper and P is tip-in).

The stat geek portion of our show is now over. Real basketball discussion may now resume.  :D

Fran, Thanks for the explanation.  I did give me the opportunity to make light of the matter though. ;D Congrats on your Red Dragons beating my Cards last week. (I hope we can return the favor in January. ;)) I enjoyed the audio broadcast. Bobby Comstock does a good job.

Speaking of broadcasts. Could someone out there please tell the Oswego guys that do the video broadcast to hike up the volume a tad. I enjoy the streaming video and the picture quality is better than many others I've watched but man those guys are hard to hear. Of course at my age I'm hard of hear-ing. :-[ I'm pretty sure Mr. and Mrs. Burridge read my posts. Could you tell them for me to JACK UP THE VOLUME. Thanks

thebear

I solved it by volume adjustable external speakers plugged into my laptop.  (Didn't help the outcome, but did improve the sound)

Some of this is the computer, some the operating system.

Geek Bear over & out

P.S.  I think the Burridges (from Hannibal) are at most Laker's games at Max Ziel
"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"
- Sgt. Joe Friday

magicman

Quote from: thebear on December 07, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
I solved it by volume adjustable external speakers plugged into my laptop.  (Didn't help the outcome, but did improve the sound)

Some of this is the computer, some the operating system.

Geek Bear over & out

P.S.  I think the Burridges (from Hannibal) are at most Laker's games at Max Ziel

Thanks for the tip bear. I have a laptop at my store which is where I am when I' m watching a game on streaming video. (Can ony get dial up at my residence) I do have external speakers in my closet that were left from a previous computer(without built in sound) that got fried by a lightening strike at my home 2 years ago. Just had my wife dig them out and will try them tomorrow. My wife says there might not be a jack to plug them into but then again we've never looked.

Burridges attend many road games as well. I expect I'll see them again this year (actually Jan 27th is next year) when the Lakers come North to take on the Cards.




thebear

All you need is the headphone jack, most pc speakers are driven from the headphone jacks, and all the ampliflication is built into the speaker system.

If you're running Windows 7 you may need to download the latest audio drivers, as there was a glitch in the original operating system.

My wife teaches at Crane and they stream most of their concerts, so she insists that our computers have decent sound.

"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"
- Sgt. Joe Friday

magicman

Quote from: thebear on December 08, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
All you need is the headphone jack, most pc speakers are driven from the headphone jacks, and all the ampliflication is built into the speaker system.

If you're running Windows 7 you may need to download the latest audio drivers, as there was a glitch in the original operating system.

My wife teaches at Crane and they stream most of their concerts, so she insists that our computers have decent sound.

bear,
I'm all hooked up. Sounds great. Two external speakers with volume controls from my old Dell monster. My Dell laptop at the store has the headphone jack right in the front. Simple as pie, no download necessary I should have thought of it before. :-[ Thanks

thebear

"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"
- Sgt. Joe Friday

magicman

Only game on tap tonight is Montclair St at New Paltz

Pointspread has Montclair State favored by 2 but I think if they can beat Brockport they should handle the Hawks. Monclair State wins this one 85-74.

magicman

Montclair State downs New Paltz 84-63. Hawks never in this game after the 1st 10 minutes. Up 11-7, with 6:28 gone in the 1st half, the Hawks were outscored 11-0 to fall behind 18-11. The Red Hawks from Montclair St. then extended their advantage to 40-21 over the next 6 minutes and were up at the half 49-30. Any hope for a New Paltz comeback was quickly dashed as the Red Hawks scored the first 8 points of the 2nd half to open up a 27 point lead and from there they coasted to the finish line. Hawks trailed by 30 with 11:14 to play and Montclair St emptied the bench.

New Paltz was led by Harris Wichard with 22 pts (7x13 fg, 4x7 3's, 4x6 ft). Matt Devine was the only other Hawk in double digits as he  had 10 pts (3x12 fg, 1x6 3's, 3x4 ft) and 14 rebounds.

Hawks shot 20x55 fg (36.4%) 9x29 3's (31%) and 14x18 ft (77.8%). They got killed on the boards 50-33 and committed 18 TO's to only 10 for the Red Hawks.

Montclair St. placed 4 guys in double figures, led by Andrew August with 22. They were 31x71 from the field (43.7%), 7x15 from the arc (46.7%) and 15x21 from the line (71.4%).

New Paltz falls to 3-5 on the season (1-2 conf) and will next play when they host Oneonta on Sat. Dec 10th at 4 PM.

jdex


And Oneonta tripped by Hartwick 57-51. OSt -- up 38-28 at the half -- scored its last bucket with 9:08 to play and led 49-41 at that juncture. The Wick finally went on top 52-51 at 2:41. Talk about a fadeaway!! Dragons 19x52fg, 7x22 3s,6x9ft. D. Lee 15 pts(5x10fg, 5x8 3s), 8 rebs; N. Sarchioto 10 pts(5x11fg)


magicman

Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
"Wego vs. The BUFFALO STATE BENGALS. Some facts for the naysayers who dont believe that my BELOVED BENGALS are for real.

Just the facts

1 - The BENGALS will wear Oswego out with their pressure/depth! The BENGALS first 5 opponents began to wilt in the 2nd half of each game which causes (a) turnovers (= points off of those turnovers), (b) cheap fouls (fouling out), (c) shots begin to fall short (ppg average goes down) and (d) they get short tempers (technicals)!

Oswego is a bit better than the Bengals first five opponents. ;)

Am I the naysayers you're referring to? ??? I didn't see anyone else even mention the Buff St.-Oswego game other than me. And I'm surprised because you KNOW I'm a big fan of your Bengals. And I have a pretty good idea of what the team's strengths and weaknesses are. Remember who told you that the Bengals would be in the sweet 16 last year before anyone.


Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
                                                                            Fact
    'Wegos top 3 starters average 35 mins pre game (with P.G. Michele averaging over 37 mins per contest). There top 3 subs average less than 13 PPG. That is just what the Dr. ordered for the BENGALS Forty Mins of Hell  a.k.a. FMOH (copyright - Nolan Richardson U of Arkansas).

Brockport uses a 10 man rotation that constantly applies pressure and that didn't seem to wear out the Lakers. I'm thinking they won't wilt. ;D

I'm guessing your post was in response to my thinking that Oswego might beat Buff St. this weekend. I said that originally I was fairly certain I was picking Buffalo St, but now I'm not so sure. I still haven't made my pick. :-\  I may end up picking the Bengals. The pointspread has the Bengals favored by 8, which I think is too high. If I could bet on the game I'd take Oswego and the points. But straight up it's a tough choice. Oswego, with 3 straight road games vs a Bengal team that had Tuesday off and now gets home cooking, might give the Bengals the edge.

And I don't think "thebear" means to sound so stearn, but as a longtime participant of this board he knows there is no such thing as a sure thing in the YAC, and you did sound pretty sure about your Bengals. Who knows, to paraphase Billy Joel  "You May Be Wrong For All We Know, but You May Be Right". :D I don't fault you for being enthusiastic about your team, don't think "thebear" does either. Just think that the statement about 3 reserve Bengals outplaying the entire Oswego bench was a little too enthusiastic. And as I said earlier, who needs a bench when you have a Burridge...And a Ward...And a Michele...And a, well you can see where I'm going with this. I'm sure Saturday's game will be a barnburner and no matter who wins it'll be fun to watch. Wish I could watch it, but I'll be at Memorial Hall hoping my Cardinals can pull off the upset of Brockport. The oddsmakers have the Cards favored by 8 points but these two teams have went down to the wire in just about every game they've played for the past 6 years. I think the Golden Eagles should be favored in this one despite their 1-6 record. They have basically the same team that defeated Plattsburgh twice last season, and the Cards lost almost all their starters. I may have to pick against Plattsburgh this week and hope I'm wrong. ::)   

magicman

Quote from: jdex on December 08, 2011, 10:03:39 PM

And Oneonta tripped by Hartwick 57-51. OSt -- up 38-28 at the half -- scored its last bucket with 9:08 to play and led 49-41 at that juncture. The Wick finally went on top 52-51 at 2:41. Talk about a fadeaway!! Dragons 19x52fg, 7x22 3s,6x9ft. D. Lee 15 pts(5x10fg, 5x8 3s), 8 rebs; N. Sarchioto 10 pts(5x11fg)

Thanks jdex. That game slipped right by me. Didn't even know it was scheduled. But just so you know I woulda picked Hartwick 57-51. ;D