MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference

[magicman]

Final score.

Fredonia State 62  Penn State Shenango 53.

[magicman]

Oswego 35  Oneonta 33 at the break

Oswego got off to a slow start as Oneonta led 9-4, but the Lakers came back and tied the game at 9-9. Oneonta then put together a nice run fueled by Andres Rivera and Joseph Bull to open up a 10 point 24-14 lead. Then it was Oswego's turn and 9 points from Jeremiah Sparks and 6 points from Brandon Gartland fueled an 18-4 run to make it 32-28 in favor of the Lakers. They traded three pointers and Joe Bull hit a buzzer beating jumper to narrow the lead to just 2 points at halftime.

Joe Sullivan was big early on for the Lakers and leads the team with 11 points and 7 rebounds. Jeremiah Sparks has 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Brandon Gartland has 8 points.

Kevin Mackin has 11 points to lead Oneonta and already has hit 3 shots from long range.
Joe Bull has 10 points and 4 rebounds.   

[magicman]

Cortland 38 New Paltz 33 at the half.

The Hawks got the early lead and were finally caught by the Red Dragons at the 14 minute mark at 9-9. Cortland went on a 14-4 run and went in front 23-14 with 10:35 left in the half. They extended the lead to 31-18 before the Hawks came back to close within 5 points at the break.

Cortland led by Austin Grunder with 13 points and 8 rebounds. Jake DiSanto with 12 points and 2 rebounds.

New Paltz led by Isaiah Bien-Aise with 10 points and 3 rebounds. Tristan Wissemann with 8 points.

[magicman]

Oneonta 76 Oswego 66 Final score.

[magicman]

Cortland 90   New Paltz 79    Final score

[scooterman]

I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?

[Caz Bombers]

I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?

The 1 seed hosts both semifinals and the final

[thebear]

Yes 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5. on Tuesday at the higher seed.  If there is an upset and a 6 or 5 seed wins on Tuesday, they reseed for the semi's.
#1 gets the lowest surviving seed, and #2 gets the highest. 

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket
 
If #1 loses in the semis on Friday, the championship game is still at #1 site, and the Friday winners will need to mostly provide their own crowd.

[All-Time]

I've been off the grid for a while.

Right Now it looks like My Oneonta Red Dragons will be Playing the Magicman's Potsdam Bears for the SUNYAC Championship.

I know there is still plenty of basketball to go, but this is wishful thinking on my part.

Would love to sit right next to my man at the Championship game.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thebear]

This Bear has been connected to Potsdam basketball for going on 50 years.

Too soon to tell, IMHO.  There are five good teams, all capable of beating anyone on a given day.
All of them are well coached, have one or more "stars" and are solid for the most part 8 or 9 players deep.

Those five teams are a combined 27-8 in conference after their first 7 conference games

Everyone still has 11 conference games to play, long season left to go.

I know that on 2/21 Oneonta plays at Potsdam, and the basketball alums are having their annual weekend in the snowy North Country.

SUNYAC is going to be interesting this year.

[scooterman]

I am truly enjoying watching the YAC on internet this season. I certainly hope we can get a second team in the NCAA's this season. Our nonconference record doesn't look to shabby, but its a crap shoot. Does anybody know the SUNYAC's NCAA record over the last 5 years? What do the rest of you guys think of our chances? I know alot of season left, but I think we should end up with at least 2 deserving teams.

[thebear]

Here are the Power Rankings that simulate the info the NCAA committee will be looking at
[Regional Rankings from Matt Snyder, but they closely track NCAA committee criteria]:

Brockport 6-1 [Wins over Oneonta, Oswego, Cortland, Lost at Potsdam] - Regional Rank - 2
Potsdam 6-1 [Win over Brockport, Lost at Oneonta] - Regional Rank - 10
Oneonta 6-1 [Wins over Potsdam, at Oswego, Cortland, Lost at Brockport] Regional Rank - 13
Oswego 5-2 [Win over Cortland, Lost at Brockport, Lost to Oneonta] Regional Rank - 5
Cortland 4-3 [Lost vs. Oneonta, at Oswego, at Brockport] Regional Rank - 8

11 games to go, 5 teams bunched at the top.  Big weekend as Oswego and Cortland visit Potsdam and Plattsburgh.

They only way I see two bids for the SUNYAC, is if one of these teams goes on a run and winds up above 40 nationally, and top 4 in the east region, and then has a close loss in the finals of the conference tournament, otherwise, probably a one bid conference this year.

Just my humble opinion

[magicman]

I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?

Yes .  If there is an upset and a 6 or 5 seed wins on Tuesday, they reseed for the semi's.
#1 gets the lowest surviving seed, and #2 gets the highest.

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket
 
If #1 loses in the semis on Friday, the championship game is still at #1 site, and the Friday winners will need to mostly provide their own crowd.

bear,
Just a slight correction, I think.

You are right, regarding the pairing of the first round seedings....  3 plays 6, 4 plays 5, on Tuesday at the higher seed. #1 and #2 have a first round bye. Then the semifinals and final are played at the #1 seed on Friday and Saturday.   

However I don't believe they reseed after the first round. In the playoffs of the 2017-18 season these were the following seeds...#1 Plattsburgh, #2 Brockport, #3 Cortland, #4 Geneseo, #5 Oswego and #6 Oneonta. In the first round #3 Cortland lost to #6 Oneonta, and #5 Oswego beat #4 Geneseo. If they did reseed after the first round then #1 Plattsburgh would have played the #6 seed, Oneonta. However, they played Oswego, the #5 seed. The #6 seed, Oneonta, ended up playing #2 Brockport. So there was no reseed then. Now maybe you're telling me they changed it, but if you look at the link you posted:

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket

You will see that semifinal game #3 in the playoffs matches the #2 seed, who had a first round bye, with the winner of game #1 between the #3 seed and the #6 seed. Game #4 matches the #1 seed, who had a bye, against the winner of game #2 between the #4 and #5 seed. The SUNYAC powers that be, assumes the #3 seed will win game 1 and they will play the #2 seed in game 3. While the  #4 or #5 seed will end up playing the top seed. That assumption doesn't work if the #6 seed beats the #3 seed as it did in the 2017-18 season. Plattsburgh did not get to play the lower seed even though they were the top seed.

I remember having a long conversation with Coach Curle at the time about who he would rather play Oneonta or Oswego because I didn't want to play Oswego in the semifinal game and I thought that we were getting Oneonta because they were the 6th seed. It turns out it didn't matter because as Coach Curle said, we've got to beat 2 teams to win the championship, and that year we were fortunate to beat Oswego in the semis and Oneonta in the finals.

They may have reseeded when there were 8 teams making the tournament but since they switched to just the top 6 teams back in the 2012-13 season there have been no reseeding for the semifinals.
 
Just an additional note for scooterman's benefit. In  the 2015-16 season Plattsburgh was the #1 seed going into the tournament and got to host the semis and finals. They lost the semifinal game to Oswego and Cortland won the other semifinal game against Brockport. The championship game was still played in Plattsburgh, even though the Cardinals were eliminated. Cortland played Oswego on Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall court (I hope someday they'll call it Tom Curle Court). I watched the game and it was a great matchup as Cortland won it at the buzzer on a 3 pointer by James Morales.   

[FranElia]

SUNYAC basketball does not re-seed after the first round. SUNYAC ice hockey does.

[magicman]

SUNYAC basketball does not re-seed after the first round. SUNYAC ice hockey does.

Thanks Fran, for the definitive answer.   plus K