MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference

[slickyquick]

My only thinking in regards to Fisher hosting is that the NCAA doesn't look into seating capacity as much as it use to. In years past that was the case. In all my years involved in some capacity in D3, that is my only thinking. Could be in part because of the enormous tv contract the NCAA has with CBS, they don't worry about the revenue brought from D3 contests. Not that it was much to begin with anyway.

[David Collinge]

Fanbase is one of the criteria, although it is a low priority and may never actually come into play:

Site Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.

[Cards7580]

""..i can guarantee Bport will bring more people then Pburg and wentworth.  "

You have a great grasp of the obvious 

[diehardfan]

Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.

The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.

While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!

If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks!

[Cards7580]

The St. John Fisher College Cardinals will host the NCAA Division III Championship Sectional semifinals and finals this Friday, March 9 and Saturday, March 10.  On Friday night the College of Wooster Fighting Scots (27-3) will take on the John Carroll Blue Streaks (21-9) at 6 p.m. and the Cardinals (24-5) will face off against the SUNY Brockport Golden Eagles (24-5) at 8 p.m.  The winner of each game will play Saturday night at 7 p.m..

Tickets are general admission at the following prices:
$7 for adults
$4 for senior citizens/students with ID/children
Children under 2 are free

Presale tickets will be available Tuesday, March 6 from 12 p.m. – 3 p.m. and Wednesday, March 7 from 12 p.m. – 3 p.m. in the Athletic Department main office in the Student Life Center.  Presale tickets are for Friday night only, and separate tickets must be purchased for the 6 p.m. and 8 p.m. games. Tickets for Saturday's games will go on sale Saturday night at 6 p.m.   Coach McCabe who handles facility concerns  585-385-8312  or  585-385-5223

[Cards7580]

It doesn't say if you can CALL to reserve pre-sale tickets.  I would assume because they gave specific times and said "at the athletic offices" that would mean you need to do that in-person.

[Pat Coleman]

Fanbase is one of the criteria, although it is a low priority and may never actually come into play:

Site Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.

If you can name an instance in which this has come into play recently, let me know.

[David Collinge]

What can I say; I'm a lawyer, I think like a lawyer.

[Cards7580]

Here are some interesting career moves that I can trace

Tim Welsh    Potsdam
       assistant under his Dad Jerry Welsh
       assistant and later Head at Iona  Div I
       Head coach at Providence  Div I

Mike Deane  Potsdam  1974     All American  many time SUNYAC 1st team
       assistant at Potsdam  1974
       assistant at Plattsburgh  1975-76  when they went to the final 4
       Head at Delhi Tech
       Head at Oswego State
       Head at Siena   Div I        1st NCAA bid for this school
       Head at Marquette  Div I  NCAA and NIT appearances
       Head at Lamar    Div I
       Head at Wagner   Div I

Dan Theiss   Plattsburgh  1981
       played for Norm Law at PSUC and Mike Deane at Delhi Tech
       assistant at Plattsburgh
       assistant at Univ of Vermont
       assistant at Siena  with M. Deane
       assistant at Marquette with  K. O'Neal and Mike Deane (appears in movie Hoop Dreams )
       assistant at Lamar with M.Deane
       assistant at Rhode Island

Steve Holmes   Plattsburgh  1983
       assistant at
       Head at Geneseo   ( 2 SUNYAC Championships)
       Head at Salisbury State

Tom Clune    Plattsburgh  1982
       played on same team as Steve Holmes and Jeff Law
       assistant at Geneseo under Tom Pope
       Head at Post (CT)
       Head at Utica
       Head at Plattsburgh St   ( 2 SUNYAC championships) 

Jeff Law  Plattsburgh 1985     
       played for his dad, Norm Law  on same team with Clune and Holmes ( I think)
       assistant at Hawaii   under
       Head at Hawaii Hilo  Div II

Norm Law - Brockport 1960   Hall of Fame there
       Head at Plattsburgh   ( 2 SUNYAC championships, 1 NCAA final four; 3 ECAC visits)
       Assistant with Paul Evans at Pittsburgh  DIV I  big east  1986-1995 ?

Tom Pope   Brockport 1960  Hall of Fame there 
       assistant at ?
       Head at Geneseo State   ( 2 time coach of year)
       
Sherry Dobbs   Plattsburgh 1995  under Larry Cowan (Ithaca ) and assistant Jim Mullin (Ithaca)
       assistant at Ithaca under Jim Mullins
       Head at Potsdam State (2 SUNYAC Championships)     

Mauro Panaggio - Brockport 1952  Hall of Fame
       Head at Brockport     (4 SUNYAC Championships)    2 NCAA regional appearances    1 final 4
       Head coach Rochester Zeniths    I think they won that Pro league championship

Danny Panaggio  Brockport 1977 Hall of Fame
       assistant at Oklahoma  Div I
       head coach Quad Cities  in CBA   

Tom Spanbauer   Cortland 1983
       played against Tom Clune and Steve Holmes and Dan Theiss and Jeff Law
       assistant at Albany State
       Head at Alfred
       Head at Cortland   ( 4 time Coach of the year in SUNYAC) 
                                   1st appearance in NCAA for school; 1st finals in ECAC for school

Dan Muchnick   Geneseo 2005
       assistant at Cortland (now)

Bill Williams     Cortland  1969   all SUNYAC player
       current assistant at Cortland
       former HEAD at Cortland    1 SUNYAC Coach of the Year
       

[thebear]

Some Adds to your list:

Tim Welsh was an assistant at IONA and Fla. State to Pat Kennedy

Tim Welsh was an assistant at Syracuse to Jim Boeheim

Mike Deane was an assistant to Jud Heathcoate at Michigan State.  Izzo replaced Mike when he left for Siena.

Steve Holmes was an assistant at Potsdam for the '85-87 60 game streak.

Sherry Dobbs has stops at Potsdam (women's asst) and SLU (under Dave Paulsen)

Greg Snyder, Potsdam is now an assistant at Hamilton

Derrick Rowland, Potsdam is the top assistant to Michael Ray Richardson of the Albany Patroons of the CBA, and head coach of the Patroons in the USBL (they field teams in both leagues) and played under three coaching legends, Phil Jackson, Bill Musselman, and George Karl.

[thebear]

I think you mean Curle, not Clune at Plattsburgh.

Rob Clune played at Albany during that era, and his brother Paul was the coach at Oneonta before Medici.

P.S.  One of the answers to why Plattsburgh took so long between NCAA wins is that they were 2-37 vs. Jerry Welsh coached teams from 1969-1991.  One of their two wins came in '75-76 when the Cards went to the Final Four.

[Cards7580]

thanks thebear.    I just made a typo.
I called Tom Curle , Clune the other day and got a crazy look from him.
He actually knew who I meant.

I was at that game and tormented Jerry all night long.   
Actually I tormented him for 5 years.   
They always beat us ( in many different ways ) but we always gave them a fight.
The only way he could stop Larry Parker was to have him in foul trouble.     seemed to always happen
at your place   hmmm....
My senior year he asked if I wanted to come work for him. 
I just asked for his autograph  and smiled.   

[GPT]

Rob Kornaker went to Alfred

[Cards7580]

Well, neither Alfred is a SUNYAC conference school. 
However,   The SJF  coach was assistant at Geneseo St at one time
AND  has two ex-Cortland players as assistants this year.


SUNYAC  - conference of coaches 

[Cards7580]

What do two things do athletic programs at Brockport, Plattsburgh, Oneonta and Potsdam have in common ?

They have all won at least one NCAA National championship (any sport) 
AND
they have all made it to at least one NCAA Men's basketball Final Four in Div III.      from 1970 through this year.

Go  Brockport !!!!