NCAA Tournament

[Pat Coleman]

It might be different out on the D3 islands, yeah.

[kate]

This is addressed to "Maine 1" - Exactly why should any given team "not belong in the tournament"?  Read your post #413 last night & was too tired to respond, but this am i'm still wondering?

[ronk]

  Seems like S. Maine and Bowdoin should have played in the Tufts regional against Tufts and UNE, respectively, and Misericordia and Johns Hopkins in the Ithaca regional with the result that 4 schools would have saved multi-100 mile trips and a USM-Bowdoin rematch in the 1st round would have been avoided.

[Pat Coleman]

Did Misericordia or Johns Hopkins deserve to advance?

[ronk]

Did Misericordia or Johns Hopkins deserve to advance?

  They could have played in the Ithaca regional against the other 2 teams and 'deserving to advance' wouldn't have been a factor, but, anyways, they deserved to advance as much as anyone else of the teams involved.

[kate]

Ronk, thank you so much for your response.  Each & every team, and members on that team deserve to be in this tournament!   These kids have worked their tails off since last fall (as they all have regardless if they're in the tournament or not).  Good luck to the Scranton men!  If you go to their game, have fun.  I'd love to see the King's game with Emmanuel at Amherst Friday night, but it's a bit far, & we're a little old !  Again, good luck to our former MAC team, University of Scranton!

[Pat Coleman]

Just to clarify, I never said they didn't deserve to be in the tournament.

Ronk: UNE had played Southern Maine and Bowdoin this season, and Bowdoin had played Tufts, so I'm sure they tried to break things up as much as possible. There's a limit as to how far you can send a team out of Maine, so they couldn't easily send Bowdoin and Southern Maine to separate places.

[ronk]

Just to clarify, I never said they didn't deserve to be in the tournament.

Ronk: UNE had played Southern Maine and Bowdoin this season, and Bowdoin had played Tufts, so I'm sure they tried to break things up as much as possible. There's a limit as to how far you can send a team out of Maine, so they couldn't easily send Bowdoin and Southern Maine to separate places.

Ok, Tufts-USM and Elms-UNE @ Tufts and Bowdoin to Ithaca w/ JHU and Miseri.

[martin]

Just posting but yesterday I ran the Massey projections for this weekend - 2-1 so far.

Amherst 66 York 57
Kings 62 Emmanuel 60 (actual - Emm 67 Kings 56 - maybe it could not factor in the Carlin brouhaha)
Amherst 72 Kings 42 - I assume it would project a similar victory over Emmanuel

George Fox 66 Bowdoin 50 (actual GF 71 Bowdoin 55, not bad - even had the spread right)
Mary Washington 52 Lebanon Valley 45
George Fox 55 Mary Washington 43

Carthage 67 Centre 56 (actual Carthage 71 Centre 61 - close)
IWU 74 Mount Union 71
IWU 74 Carthage 65

St. Thomas 53 Tufts 48
Chicago 64 Calvin 61
Chicago 64  St. Thomas 56

Final Four
IWU 73 Chicago 71 (boo, hiss)
Amherst 61 George Fox 56
Amherst 73 IWU 68

Will update after tonights games.

[gordonmann]

We have the Pre-Championship Manual for the 2013 NCAA tournament. Here are some key points of interest...

* The breakdown of bids is the same as last year: 43 conference winners + 1 Pool B + 20 Pool C = 64 teams
* The NCAA tournament selections will be announced on Monday via the Internet, like last year
* There are 16 teams eligible for the 1 Pool B bid: Birmingham-Southern, Centre, Finlandia, Hendrix, Maine-Presque Isle, Millsaps, Nebraska Wesleyan, New Rochelle, North Central (Minn.), Oglethorpe, Rhodes, Rust, Sewanee, St. Joseph's (Brooklyn), UC Santa Cruz, Yeshiva
* There are six teams considered provisional that are ineligible for the tournament: Berry, Covenant, Houghton, Southern Virginia, SUNY Canton and Valley Forge Christian

[Just Bill]

So it would appear Nebraska Wesleyan declared for the NCAA Tournament for their women's team and the NAIA Tournament for their men's team. Seems odd? Imagine if by some miracle they both won national titles in separate organizations.

[ronk]

Pat,
  Did u find out the missing women's MA regional ranking #8 yet? It has Pool C implications.

[gordonmann]

Ronk:

We think the 8th team was King's.

[ronk]

 I talked with Dave at the Landmark championships yesterday and he speculated that the listing software couldn't handle an apostrophe(King's) and that's why it's thought to be King's.

[7express]

Trying to put together a list of 20 Pool C women's teams and I'm having extreme difficulty since pretty much all the favorites won their conferences.  I currently have 19 and now am stuck for the final spot:
William Paterson
Mary Washington
Wisconsin-Whitewater
Wash U
Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Rochester
Calvin
Illinois Wesleyan
Messiah
Widener
Moravian
Tufts
Williams
Ferrum
Louisiana College
Maryville (TN)
Lewis & Clark
Smith
Scranton


I want to put Concordia-Moorhead and or Castleton state but I don't think the profiles stack up even though both were regionally ranked last week (Moorhead 4th in West, Castleton 8th in the East).  I'd also like to put Whitman in there, but they were 6th in the West, so they'd have to pass Moorhead in the unpublished rankings which I don't see happening.  Western Connecticut has a good record, and the LEC is known for sending multiple teams, but they have some bad losses and once again would have to pass Castleton, and Dartmouth's profile is worse than Western even though they went 2-1, but there's talks of them getting a Pool C.  Vassar is another team with a gaudy record/region record but no real quality wins.  Eastern Mennonite is 21-6 19-4 in region won 16 of 18 to end the year but like Vassar no real quality wins that seperates themselves.  Ahh screw it, I'll put in Eastern Mennonite, so here's my 20 Pool C teams.  Fell free to disagree:
William Paterson
Mary Washington
Wisconsin-Whitewater
Wash U
Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Rochester
Calvin
Illinois Wesleyan
Messiah
Widener
Moravian
Tufts
Williams
Ferrum
Louisiana College
Maryville (TN)
Lewis & Clark
Smith
Scranton
Eastern Mennonite

Last 4 in:
Eastern Mennonite, Scranton, Maryville, Mary Washington
First 4 out:
Castleton, Concordia-Moorhead, Whitman, Vassar