NCAA Tournament

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gordonmann

Thomas More's deepest run is the Sweet 16.  They lost to Hope in 2008 and Wilmington in 2004.

gordonmann

Amh63:

Feel free to air out your concerns or disagreement now.  I won't have a problem with it.  Or you can wait until the final four.  I think Amherst will very likely be there.

Dutchfan

I have UW-Stevens Point, Hope, Kean, and Babson in the Final Four. Hope beats Kean 85-80 to Win the National Championship.

ronk

  As  the tourney starts, a couple of consecutive tourney streaks ended this year with the non-appearance of S. Maine and Scranton. Also, their 2 longest streaks in D3 of consecutive 20-win seasons ended at 29 and 19,respectively.

zander

Quote from: Dutchfan on March 03, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
I have UW-Stevens Point, Hope, Kean, and Babson in the Final Four. Hope beats Kean 85-80 to Win the National Championship.
Do you have the horses to handle Meyer and Case down low?

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: Dutchfan on March 03, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
I have UW-Stevens Point, Hope, Kean, and Babson in the Final Four. Hope beats Kean 85-80 to Win the National Championship.

I've watched Babson play a few times on video stream.  It is very hard to see them in the Final Four, or even outside the Sweet 16. But heck, I have CNU in the final 4 what do I know. :)


Gordonmann:

I enjoyed reading your NCAA coverage on d3hoops.  I actually agree with most of it.

I find it very difficult to believe that Thomas More comes close to getting to the final four.  Who have they really played on their schedule that is considered among the elite of d3?  I don't really see anyone.  Thomas More's bracket is stacked with some quality teams.  Those quality teams are a little more battle tested than Thomas More.

I saw Greensboro play against Thomas More a few years ago.  I understand it was a few years ago, but I managed to talk with a few of the Thomas More fans/media staff when they played.  They were impressed with the style of Greensboro, and it wasn't something they see on the regular basis.  If Thomas More comes across a team that is athletic and can shoot the ball, they will run into trouble.

I am not 100% sure that they will see that, but that Hope regional will be battle tested and more prepared to play Thomas More.

I believe Thomas More will be the team most likely to disappoint.

I can't remember my other thought, but there was something else.  If I remember I will post it.  :)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on March 04, 2011, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 03, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
I have UW-Stevens Point, Hope, Kean, and Babson in the Final Four. Hope beats Kean 85-80 to Win the National Championship.

I've watched Babson play a few times on video stream.  It is very hard to see them in the Final Four, or even outside the Sweet 16. But heck, I have CNU in the final 4 what do I know. :)


Gordonmann:

I enjoyed reading your NCAA coverage on d3hoops.  I actually agree with most of it.

I find it very difficult to believe that Thomas More comes close to getting to the final four.  Who have they really played on their schedule that is considered among the elite of d3?  I don't really see anyone.  Thomas More's bracket is stacked with some quality teams.  Those quality teams are a little more battle tested than Thomas More.

I saw Greensboro play against Thomas More a few years ago.  I understand it was a few years ago, but I managed to talk with a few of the Thomas More fans/media staff when they played.  They were impressed with the style of Greensboro, and it wasn't something they see on the regular basis.  If Thomas More comes across a team that is athletic and can shoot the ball, they will run into trouble.

I am not 100% sure that they will see that, but that Hope regional will be battle tested and more prepared to play Thomas More.

I believe Thomas More will be the team most likely to disappoint.

I can't remember my other thought, but there was something else.  If I remember I will post it.  :)
Now this is an interesting question. 

Thomas More beat CNU by 10 in Hawai'i in December.

CNU beat Greensboro 2 games to one this season.  My perspective on CNU is that they only led McMurry by 1 pt with about 1:10 left in the game in a 67-59 win in that same tourney on the next day.  My perspective in the South is that HPU is the strongest South Region team.  Louisiana College and CNU are next; then Greensboro, then UTD, then Maryville follow in order.  we get into the big mishmash in the ASC of UMHB, McMurry, HSU and Mississippi College.    :)

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2011, 09:22:03 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on March 04, 2011, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: Dutchfan on March 03, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
I have UW-Stevens Point, Hope, Kean, and Babson in the Final Four. Hope beats Kean 85-80 to Win the National Championship.

I've watched Babson play a few times on video stream.  It is very hard to see them in the Final Four, or even outside the Sweet 16. But heck, I have CNU in the final 4 what do I know. :)


Gordonmann:

I enjoyed reading your NCAA coverage on d3hoops.  I actually agree with most of it.

I find it very difficult to believe that Thomas More comes close to getting to the final four.  Who have they really played on their schedule that is considered among the elite of d3?  I don't really see anyone.  Thomas More's bracket is stacked with some quality teams.  Those quality teams are a little more battle tested than Thomas More.

I saw Greensboro play against Thomas More a few years ago.  I understand it was a few years ago, but I managed to talk with a few of the Thomas More fans/media staff when they played.  They were impressed with the style of Greensboro, and it wasn't something they see on the regular basis.  If Thomas More comes across a team that is athletic and can shoot the ball, they will run into trouble.

I am not 100% sure that they will see that, but that Hope regional will be battle tested and more prepared to play Thomas More.

I believe Thomas More will be the team most likely to disappoint.

I can't remember my other thought, but there was something else.  If I remember I will post it.  :)
Now this is an interesting question. 

Thomas More beat CNU by 10 in Hawai'i in December.

CNU beat Greensboro 2 games to one this season.  My perspective on CNU is that they only led McMurry by 1 pt with about 1:10 left in the game in a 67-59 win in that same tourney on the next day.  My perspective in the South is that HPU is the strongest South Region team.  Louisiana College and CNU are next; then Greensboro, then UTD, then Maryville follow in order.  we get into the big mishmash in the ASC of UMHB, McMurry, HSU and Mississippi College.    :)

I wouldn't consider CNU among the elite in DIII.  I think they are in a region (mostly location) where it is easy for them to do well not mention a state school. (I can't wait to hear the back comments on that :) )  Greensboro won the conference on $30,000 a year per player :)

I think CNU once again is in an easier bracket compared to Greensboro and even Louisiana College.

I agree with your order of ranking teams.  I know Greensboro was ranked #1 in the region, but thought teams below them played better on a consistent basis. (I think they have alot of questions that need to be answered this weekend.  I try not to be critical of Greensboro, but think at times they try to be too much of a half court team.  Which tends to bottle up their speed and athleticism  (I think they can be a half court team. Greensboro does it more than they should  :-\) )  The only team I would take out is Maryville, and move RMC or Bridgewater, then Maryville.




gordonmann

Guy:

Thanks for following the coverage and the good thoughts.

That was the hardest bracket to pick.  First I thought about Hope and then decided against it for the reasons mentioned in the preview.  Then I thought about Calvin, but couldn't pull the trigger because I'm not confident they'll get past Chicago.  I guess I ended up picking the team that struck me as least likely to get upset in the first couple rounds.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

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Gordon:

Looks like one of your cinderalla teams is done  :P  

83-66 Greensboro over St. Vincent.  I thought the game would be closer but Greensboro really came to play.  I really like what I saw out of them tonight. Shooting 55% in the game wow.  You don't see those kind of numbers against and NCAA caliber team very often.

I think this is fuel for my arguement that Thomas More probably won't make it to the final 4.

of note:  Greensboro is now 2-0 in the NCAA tournament against teams from PA  8-)

GuyFormerlyPSBBG

I am pretty upset about my bracket challenge.  Somehow my bracket got screwed up after I submitted.  I publicly stated CNU and Amherst on the side of the bracket.  I just looked at it there is stevens and williams.  How did that happen?  My bracket is therefore now "charlie sheened" :) 

Is there a bug in the mix or sabotage :P

sac

Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on March 04, 2011, 10:13:16 PM
I am pretty upset about my bracket challenge.  Somehow my bracket got screwed up after I submitted.  I publicly stated CNU and Amherst on the side of the bracket.  I just looked at it there is stevens and williams.  How did that happen?  My bracket is therefore now "charlie sheened" :) 

Is there a bug in the mix or sabotage :P

I have no idea if mine were submitted.  When I went back to check on them it started me over so who knows.

gordonmann

Guy:

Nice showing by the Pride.  Congrats on the win.  I think they'll handle Juniata tomorrow night.  Then again, we both know how good I am at predicting things. :)

7express

Really scared of Kean tomorrow they'll be extremely tough to beat on their home floor, just ask Amherst.  They were only up 7 at halftime and they completely blitzed Vassar in the second.  Not sure what the final was, but Kean was up 31 when I left.

sunny

Well, I didn't enter the challenge, but take it on faith that I am 26-5 right now (come on Chapman!).

Oddly one of my five misses was Wisconsin Lutheran winning ... which is funny since I was the only voter to vote for them each of the last two weeks.  The lesson - never pick against yourself! The other four were Geneseo, Mount Union, Eastern Connecticut and Williams.