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ILive4This

Is that a TI-89? while not as easy to use for statistics as the TI-83 or its successors the TI-83+, TI-83 Silver and now TI-84, the TI-89 is superior when looking to make calculus all the more bearable.

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Quote from: ILive4This on March 11, 2008, 11:40:55 AM
Is that a TI-89? while not as easy to use for statistics as the TI-83 or its successors the TI-83+, TI-83 Silver and now TI-84, the TI-89 is superior when looking to make calculus all the more bearable.
Definitely an 89. An engineer can tell from a mile away  :D

jagluski


Hugenerd

Quote from: ILive4This on March 11, 2008, 11:40:55 AM
Is that a TI-89? while not as easy to use for statistics as the TI-83 or its successors the TI-83+, TI-83 Silver and now TI-84, the TI-89 is superior when looking to make calculus all the more bearable.

I actually find that the statistics package on the TI-86 is far superior to that of the 83 or 83+.  It has a better user-interface and it is easier to implement under time constraints.  The TI-89 is a step up, but you have to know how to harness its power, or else you can find yourself feeling overwhelmed and lost.

Hugenerd

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Quote from: hugenerd on March 05, 2008, 08:43:54 PM
My guess Troy Ruths wins the Jostens this year, but I think JB has a good shot next year.

I know I wasnt going out on a limb, but I called this a week ago on the NEWMAC board (JB is referring to Jimmy Bartolotta, who averaged 24 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg, 2.3 spg, 53% FG, 42% 3FG, and 81% FT for MIT) .

ILive4This

you also need to consider academics, extra curricular  and community service for this award I believe. Ruths is a phenomenal ball player, but also boast a ridiculous GPA and if I remember correctly created a computer science curriculum that is used at many middle schools across the nation.

pabegg

In the ridiculous trivia department:

If there is one team that WashU is afraid of in the tournament, it is Ohio Wesleyan. Why?

Here's their tournament record against Wesleyans:

1987:North Carolina Wesleyan 64-66
1988:Nebraska Wesleyan 55-58
1995:Illinois Wesleyan 65-90
1996:Illinois Wesleyan 61-73
2003:Illinois Wesleyan 73-85
2007:Virginia Wesleyan 65-67

0-6! Ouch.

HopeConvert

We're all a little scared of Wesleyans.  ;)
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SLP-O-8

Congrats to Troy Ruths on his Jostens award.  I have never been able to see him play so could somebody explain his game. 
You have ONE advantage over me.....you can kiss my a$$ and I can't!!

jagluski

Quote from: pabegg on March 11, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
In the ridiculous trivia department:

If there is one team that WashU is afraid of in the tournament, it is Ohio Wesleyan. Why?

Here's their tournament record against Wesleyans:

1987:North Carolina Wesleyan 64-66
1988:Nebraska Wesleyan 55-58
1995:Illinois Wesleyan 65-90
1996:Illinois Wesleyan 61-73
2003:Illinois Wesleyan 73-85
2007:Virginia Wesleyan 65-67

0-6! Ouch.


But you forget:

1964: Wash U beats Nebraska Wesleyan 67-64 in a regional consolation  :)

realplayer

Congrats to UAA for proving they are the best conference in the land!

Note: Only four teams in last week's Top 10 made it the the Sweet 16.  I have a question though.  Does anyone else think the D3Hoops Top 25 poll should note that the votes are purely fan based?  I think it if was noted this way there would be less criticism and more fun.  Teams would play for popularity instead what they think is a credited poll.  It states that the current voters are "coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members", but their votes seem unrealistic sometimes.  Is Gregory Sager a coach, SID, or media member?  If I recall I believe he voted on the All-Decade Team as a fan.  I know how much he hearts CCIW, and judges the whole UAA based on how they play at Chicago, but is it just a coincidence that all five decade teams have at least one CCIW member on them?  Also, anyone who knows anything about basketball knows Dauksas is not a better point guard than Crotty.  Plus, if I only win 9 games my senior season and make D3Hoops  First Team All-American and the All-Decade Team I would be the happiest guy alive knowing I took a spot away from someone that made their team win.  Sounds like popularity to me.  Also, how can a national runner-up finish THIRD in the D3hoops Final Poll?!?!  (See 2005)  If the poll is based on the WHOLE season I guess it didn't take into account the head to head match up to play for a national title!  I'm sure there are many other discrepancies but these come first to mind.  I love the site and this is just my opinion.  I'd love to hear what you guys think.

magicman

Quote from: ILive4This on March 11, 2008, 11:09:09 AM
Walzy, bringing your lines over to the UAA now? pretty interesting stuff, I am not sure how familiar you are with our teams or the opponents. I would like to think Brandeis could get away from this game that easy, but I think a team that has two losses, none in region, and will be playing on their home floor, may be a bit harder to defeat. I would have expected a more conservative line, perhaps of 3 or 4, especially in the 3rd round of the tournament. Also being the NESCAC specialist, I would have figured a larger spread for the amherst game.

As a side note, I am not looking for the nicest places to sleep/eat in plattsburgh, just the cheapest, perhaps a place i can split with 3 other people and get out paying only 10-20 bucks....any one have any insight for me, I am a cheap college student looking to see the games on a meager budget.

IL4T,
I agree with you. Walzy's lines are a little off.

Correct lines for the Plattsburgh sectional

Amherst -11 vs Richard Stockton   Jersey team will be scrappy, quick, and they have good shooters but will definitely have trouble dealing with the Amherst bigs. Stockton starts a 6'5" forward, a 6'3" forward, a 6'2" forward and 2  6'0" guards. Ospreys will need to shoot lights out to prevent being blown out.

Plattsburgh -3 vs Brandeis    Home court for the Cardinals gives them the edge here. On paper these teams match up pretty evenly. Cardinals never out of a game as evidenced by their huge comeback against Uof R in last years 1st round NCAA game and coming from 22 down in the 2nd half at Middlebury on Feb. 5th, of this year. Brandeis could easily be favored here and I think this will be the best game of the sectional. I think the winner of this game advances to the Final Four and quite possibly wins it all.

Regarding places to stay and restauranrts in the area:  Go to page 405 on the NESCAC posting board. I gave a list of places to stay and eat, all within 5 minutes of Memorial Hall gym.  Maybe I'll see you at the game. Hope you have tickets. Plattsburgh/Brandeis game sold out in 3 hours.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: pabegg on March 11, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
In the ridiculous trivia department:

If there is one team that WashU is afraid of in the tournament, it is Ohio Wesleyan. Why?

Here's their tournament record against Wesleyans:

1987:North Carolina Wesleyan 64-66
1988:Nebraska Wesleyan 55-58
1995:Illinois Wesleyan 65-90
1996:Illinois Wesleyan 61-73
2003:Illinois Wesleyan 73-85
2007:Virginia Wesleyan 65-67

0-6! Ouch.


Terrific sleuthing, Patrick. Kudos!

Quote from: jagluski on March 11, 2008, 11:34:40 PMBut you forget:

1964: Wash U beats Nebraska Wesleyan 67-64 in a regional consolation  :)

Also nicely researched. But since that was an NCAA College Division tournament game (College Division's records have been subsumed into D2's) Patrick's point still stands as it concerns the D3 tourney.

Quote from: SLP-O-8 on March 11, 2008, 11:06:13 PM
Congrats to Troy Ruths on his Jostens award.  I have never been able to see him play so could somebody explain his game. 

He's not a tremendously big center (6'6, 220), but he's an extraordinary finisher no matter who is guarding him. If he's got the ball within three feet of the basket, you might as well start running downcourt, because the two points are all but guaranteed.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AM
Congrats to UAA for proving they are the best conference in the land!

Note: Only four teams in last week's Top 10 made it the the Sweet 16.  I have a question though.  Does anyone else think the D3Hoops Top 25 poll should note that the votes are purely fan based?  I think it if was noted this way there would be less criticism and more fun.  Teams would play for popularity instead what they think is a credited poll.  It states that the current voters are "coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members", but their votes seem unrealistic sometimes.

It's not a fan-based poll. The description of the 25 pollsters is accurate: They are coaches, SIDs, and media members.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AMIs Gregory Sager a coach, SID, or media member?

No. Nor am I a d3hoops.com Top 25 pollster.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AMIf I recall I believe he voted on the All-Decade Team as a fan.

You believe incorrectly. At Pat Coleman's request I wrote the profiles of three of the All-Decade team members: Drew Carstens, Antoine McDaniel, and Jason Wiertel. I had no part whatsoever in selecting them, or any of the other All-Decade team members for that matter.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AMI know how much he hearts CCIW, and judges the whole UAA based on how they play at Chicago, but is it just a coincidence that all five decade teams have at least one CCIW member on them?

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, since I had nothing to do with the selection of the All-Decade team. Your insinuation that I had some sort of influence over how the All-Decade team was put together, and that said influence was prejudiced by the fact that I'm an alumnus of a CCIW school, is completely in error.

If you have a beef with the All-Decade team, take it up with Pat. I can assure you that Pat doesn't "heart CCIW". In fact, I can pretty much guarantee that Pat will do one of these when he sees that you've used the word "heart" as a verb:  ::)

:D

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AMAlso, anyone who knows anything about basketball knows Dauksas is not a better point guard than Crotty.

Neither of those players were a part of the UAA. Your assertion is therefore not relevant to this room. If the All-Decade team is really such a stone in your shoe, I suggest that you start a new room to discuss it rather than dropping your All-Decade team complaints into the middle of the UAA conversation. After all, the UAA has three teams in the Sweet Sixteen that are worth discussing.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AMPlus, if I only win 9 games my senior season and make D3Hoops  First Team All-American and the All-Decade Team I would be the happiest guy alive knowing I took a spot away from someone that made their team win.  Sounds like popularity to me.  Also, how can a national runner-up finish THIRD in the D3hoops Final Poll?!?!  (See 2005)  If the poll is based on the WHOLE season I guess it didn't take into account the head to head match up to play for a national title!  I'm sure there are many other discrepancies but these come first to mind.  I love the site and this is just my opinion.  I'd love to hear what you guys think.

First of all, the national runner-up in 2005, Rochester, didn't finish third in the 2005 poll. It finished fourth. Trinity (TX) finished third. Nevertheless, your All-Decade team and d3hoops.com Top 25 poll grievances aren't really germane to this room. The Top 25 poll has its own room, and, as I said, if you want to have a Dauksas vs. Crotty debate, or whatever, you ought to start an All-Decade team room in which to hold it.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Pat Coleman

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AM
Also, how can a national runner-up finish THIRD in the D3hoops Final Poll?!?!  (See 2005)  If the poll is based on the WHOLE season I guess it didn't take into account the head to head match up to play for a national title!  I'm sure there are many other discrepancies but these come first to mind. 

You have a number of ridiculous assumptions here that have already been adequately answered, but I'll handle this one.

We took into account the entirety of the season and the tournament, including the roads that teams had to face in the early rounds. Simply being in the Final Two doesn't equate to being in the Top Two in Division III, considering the money-saving way in which the brackets are set up.

Quote from: realplayer on March 12, 2008, 02:33:26 AM
this is just my opinion. 

Clearly. There's very little fact here. :)
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