MBB: University Athletic Association

mark_reichert · August 01, 2009, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: hugenerd on June 29, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
Anyone else notice that 4 UAA teams have changed travel partners? Brandeis/NYU and WashU/Chicago remain the same, but CMU is now partnered with CWRU and Emory is with Rochester.

I am sure that it is motivated due to travel concerns (Cleveland and Pittsburgh are about 2.5 hours apart by bus, compared to about a 5 hour drive to Rochester from Pittsburgh),

It might also be that somebody realized that Cleveland and Pittsburgh have a natural rivalry as strong as Chicago/St. Louis and Boston/New York, whereas Atlanta/Cleveland and Pittsburgh/Rochester had no such rivalries.

I gathered before that Atlanta/Cleveland was already a plane flight, so now they've made the plane flight up to an hour longer but all the bus rides short.

Hugenerd · August 02, 2009, 12:54:30 AM

Yeah, whoever you pair Atlanta up with it is going to be a plane ride so you might was well make the other 3 pairs of teams as close as possible.

Ralph Turner · August 02, 2009, 01:53:43 AM

Quote from: hugenerd on August 02, 2009, 12:54:30 AM
Yeah, whoever you pair Atlanta up with it is going to be a plane ride so you might was well make the other 3 pairs of teams as close as possible.

Yeah, a trip to the Palestra and a long plane flight!

What a weekend!

Wydown Blvd. · October 05, 2009, 08:34:03 PM

Heard wustl is ranked #1 in the sporting news rankings released today.

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/releases/mbk10-5-09.html

Pretty excited for the d3hoops poll to have something to chat about.

wooscotsfan · October 06, 2009, 09:41:10 PM

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on October 05, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
Heard wustl is ranked #1 in the sporting news rankings released today.
Pretty excited for the d3hoops poll to have something to chat about.

Yes, I have a copy of the Sportings News Division III preview and their preseason Top 10 is:

1. Washington University (St. Louis)
2. Guilford (NC)
3. Richard Stockton (NJ)
4. Franklin & Marshall (PA)
5. Wooster (OH)
6. UMass-Dartmouth
7. John Carroll (OH)
8. DeSales (PA)
9. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
10. Brooklyn (NY)

IMHO, this is good preseason discussion material but the D3Hoops poll will be more revealing.

With the Bears scheduled to play in Wooster's holiday tournament in late December, there could be an excellent tournament championship game on 12/30 featuring these top 10 teams (assumes Wash U. beats Transylvania and Wooster beats Kalamazoo in opening games on 12/29).

ronk · October 07, 2009, 12:06:59 AM

I don't remember Brooklyn ever being mentioned last year in any discussion(NCAA tournament Pool A/C) that would lead to being a top 10 team this year.

Wydown Blvd. · October 07, 2009, 12:24:38 AM

and thats why Im waiting for the d3hoops poll to start discussion...

Gregory Sager · October 07, 2009, 12:10:33 PM

Quote from: wooscotsfan on October 06, 2009, 09:41:10 PM
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on October 05, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
Heard wustl is ranked #1 in the sporting news rankings released today.
Pretty excited for the d3hoops poll to have something to chat about.

Yes, I have a copy of the Sportings News Division III preview and their preseason Top 10 is:

1. Washington University (St. Louis)
2. Guilford (NC)
3. Richard Stockton (NJ)
4. Franklin & Marshall (PA)
5. Wooster (OH)
6. UMass-Dartmouth
7. John Carroll (OH)
8. DeSales (PA)
9. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
10. Brooklyn (NY)

IMHO, this is good preseason discussion material but the D3Hoops poll will be more revealing.

That's putting it mildly. This poll is essentially taking last season's tourney teams, subtracting out the seniors, and ranking what's left. In other words, it's not a bad attempt at trying to forecast 63% of next March's Sweet Sixteen, given the NCAA's geography-based tourney bracket for D3 basketball, but as an actual preseason Top Ten it's a dismal failure.

Wydown Blvd. · October 07, 2009, 07:38:57 PM

More preseason rankings. This time DIII News.

Aaron Thompson Named DIII News Preseason National Player of the Year
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/releases/mbk10-7-09.html

WUSTL Men's and Women's Hoops Teams Ranked No. 1 in DIII News
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/releases/wbk10-7-09.html

Hugenerd · October 21, 2009, 01:44:55 PM

Preseason Polls are up:

WashU is ranked #1 unanimously

Brandeis ranked 22 (123 points)

CMU also received votes (22 points)

Marty Peretz · October 22, 2009, 02:22:00 PM

Glad to see Wash.U. at the top of the polls, but a little surprised how far down Deis was. They have a very solid group returning and figure to challenge Wash.U, particularly since the Bears' post game will be a tad depleted with the loss of Nading. I think Nading will be a MUCH bigger loss for Wash.U than DeLuca was for Deis. Still, I think WashU will win the league and with the midwest/great lakes not being quite as strong as last year, they have an even better chance of repeating. Only thing that concerns me is how brutal a schedule it is. Wheaton, Augie, IWU, Wooster all in non conference. That's unreal.

John Gleich · October 22, 2009, 04:09:12 PM

What's the outlook for Chicago? After getting hot two years ago and making the NCAA tournament, they had a pretty historic flop (what was it, 12 in a row to start the year?) that people pretty much agreed was not representative of how talented the team really was... I don't know how to really gauge this year's team... anyone have any insight?

Gregory Sager · October 22, 2009, 04:27:00 PM

Quote from: PointSpecial on October 22, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
What's the outlook for Chicago? After getting hot two years ago and making the NCAA tournament, they had a pretty historic flop (what was it, 12 in a row to start the year?) that people pretty much agreed was not representative of how talented the team really was... I don't know how to really gauge this year's team... anyone have any insight?

I think that the Maroons will still be the same perimeter-oriented, bombs-away type of team that they've been the past couple of years. They'll go as far as seniors Jake Pancratz and John Kinsella and sophomore Michael Sustarsic can take them. The Maroons took a summer trip to South America, and summer playing tours can often help a team get an early start on their season. They also have an upcoming exhibition game against DePaul that should be interesting.

Wydown Blvd. · October 22, 2009, 05:31:05 PM

Marty, their non-conference schedule is about the same difficulty it has been for the past two years. In fact maybe easier this year than last with playing Wheaton and Augustana at home (and Wheaton graduating Kent Raymond and Augustana returning one starter....) That game @Wooster is the one I am circling on my calendar as Aaron Thompson looks come out a winner with a big game in his home state.

Of course, I know youre stuck in the northeast

but the midwest is weak this year as compared to the last two years

Hugenerd · November 02, 2009, 08:20:33 PM

Preseason rankings are out:

http://www.uaa.rochester.edu/Basketball/09-10%20MBK%20Pre.pdf?columnist=greenberg_jon&id=4585864

WashU unsurprisingly #1 (they received 7 of 8 first place votes, but you can vote for yourself, so Brandeis received the first place vote from WashU's coacing staff). Brandeis was second, Rochester 3rd, and CMU dropped to 7th after losing 3 starters to graduation.