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Pat Coleman

Well, clearly IWU will since it has more tournament experience. :)
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Gregory Sager

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Titan Q

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
It will be interesting to see which school fares better in this year's dance, since their tournament winning percentages are currently identical at .684. IWU is 39-18, and Wash U is 26-12.

IWU's Salem appearance lead over the Bears is also on the line during this year's tournament...

Final Four Appearances (Salem Era, 1995-96 through 2008-09)
Amherst 4 (2004, 2006, 2007, 2008) - NESCAC
Illinois Wesleyan 4 (1996, 1997, 2001, 2006) - CCIW
Williams 4 (1997, 1998, 2003, 2004) - NESCAC
Franklin & Marshall 3 (1996, 2000, 2009) - Centennial
Hope 3 (1996, 1998, 2008) - MIAA
Washington U. 3 (2007, 2008, 2009) - UAA
Calvin 2 (2000, 2005) - MIAA
Hampden-Sydney 2 (1999, 2003) - ODAC
Rochester 2 (2002, 2005) - UAA
UW-Platteville 2 (1998, 1999) - WIAC
UW-Stevens Point 2 (2004, 2005) - WIAC
Virginia Wesleyan 2 (2006, 2006) - ODAC
William Paterson 2 (1999, 2001) - NJAC
Wooster 2 (2003, 2007) - NCAC
Alvernia 1 (1997) - MACF
Carthage 1 (2002) - CCIW
Catholic 1 (2001) - LAND
Connecticut College 1 (1999) - NESCAC
Elizabethtown 1 (2002) - MACC
Guilford 1 (2009) - ODAC
Gustavus Adolphus 1 (2003) - MIAC
John Carroll 1 (2004) - OAC
Nebraska Wesleyan 1 (1997) - ind
Ohio Northern 1 (2001) - OAC
Otterbein 1 (2002) - OAC
Richard Stockton 1 (2009) - NJAC
Rowan 1 (1996) - NJAC
Salem St 1 (2000) - MASCAC
Ursinus 1 (2008) - Centennial
UW-Eau Claire 1 (2000) - WIAC
Wilkes 1 (1997) - MACF
Wittenberg 1 (2006) - NCAC
York (Pa) 1 (2005) – CAC

Hugenerd

Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on March 01, 2010, 02:37:53 PM
Quote from: pradam on March 01, 2010, 10:55:09 AM
Haven't been following as much this year since I'm out of college, but can anyone tell me how good St. John's Fisher is?  I'm guessing Brandeis should beat St. Lawrence pretty easily (crossing fingers!), which is why I ask.

If I'm off base here, let me know. 

U of R beat Fisher in the Wendy's (Chase) Challenge in January by 5-6.  UR has been anything but consistent this year and the cast of characters has changed over the season, but my guess is that Brandeis/Fisher, if it happens, will be a good game.

Carnegie Mellon also played Fisher tough this year, although it was the first game of the season.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Titan Q on March 02, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
It will be interesting to see which school fares better in this year's dance, since their tournament winning percentages are currently identical at .684. IWU is 39-18, and Wash U is 26-12.

IWU's Salem appearance lead over the Bears is also on the line during this year's tournament...

Final Four Appearances (Salem Era, 1995-96 through 2008-09)
Amherst 4 (2004, 2006, 2007, 2008) - NESCAC
Illinois Wesleyan 4 (1996, 1997, 2001, 2006) - CCIW
Williams 4 (1997, 1998, 2003, 2004) - NESCAC
Franklin & Marshall 3 (1996, 2000, 2009) - Centennial
Hope 3 (1996, 1998, 2008) - MIAA
Washington U. 3 (2007, 2008, 2009) - UAA
Calvin 2 (2000, 2005) - MIAA
Hampden-Sydney 2 (1999, 2003) - ODAC
Rochester 2 (2002, 2005) - UAA
UW-Platteville 2 (1998, 1999) - WIAC
UW-Stevens Point 2 (2004, 2005) - WIAC
Virginia Wesleyan 2 (2006, 2006) - ODAC
William Paterson 2 (1999, 2001) - NJAC
Wooster 2 (2003, 2007) - NCAC
Alvernia 1 (1997) - MACF
Carthage 1 (2002) - CCIW
Catholic 1 (2001) - LAND
Connecticut College 1 (1999) - NESCAC
Elizabethtown 1 (2002) - MACC
Guilford 1 (2009) - ODAC
Gustavus Adolphus 1 (2003) - MIAC
John Carroll 1 (2004) - OAC
Nebraska Wesleyan 1 (1997) - ind
Ohio Northern 1 (2001) - OAC
Otterbein 1 (2002) - OAC
Richard Stockton 1 (2009) - NJAC
Rowan 1 (1996) - NJAC
Salem St 1 (2000) - MASCAC
Ursinus 1 (2008) - Centennial
UW-Eau Claire 1 (2000) - WIAC
Wilkes 1 (1997) - MACF
Wittenberg 1 (2006) - NCAC
York (Pa) 1 (2005) – CAC

In strictly historical terms, I don't think any CCIW school has more on the line in this tournament with regard to Wash U's fortunes than North Park. Right now my alma mater is the only school that has ever threepeated the D3 national championship in men's basketball, and, believe me, we Parkers would like to see it stay that way.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

WUPHF

UAA Men's All-Association Team
Mar 02, 2010
Press Release posted by UAA

2009-10 UAA Men's Basketball Honors
Player of the Year: Sean Wallis • Washington University
Rookie of the Year: John DiBartolomeo • University of Rochester

Co-Coaching Staffs of the Year: Emory University • Head Coach Jason Zimmerman,
Assistant Coaches Chris Murphy, Ben Wright

Washington University • Head Coach Mark Edwards,
Assistant Coaches Caleb Lawson, Buddy Sodemann

2009-10 UAA MEN'S ALL-ASSOCIATION BASKETBALL TEAM
FIRST TEAM
Austin Claunch Emory 5-9 G So. Cypress, TX (Strake Jesuit Prep)
Terrell Hollins Brandeis 6-4 F Sr. Springfield, MA (Longmeadow)
Keith Jensen NYU 6-4 F Sr. San Diego, CA (Rancho Bernardo)
Jake Pancratz Chicago 6-1 G Sr. Schaumburg, IL (Schaumburg)
Kenny Small Brandeis 6-0 G Sr. Stratford, CT (Stratford)
Aaron Thompson Washington 6-4 G Sr. Elida, OH (Elida)
Sean Wallis Washington 6-2 G Gr. Northbrook, IL (Glenbrook North) † POY

SECOND TEAM
Jack Anderson Carnegie Mellon 6-3 G Sr. Beaver Falls, PA (Beaver Falls)
Reid Anderson Case 6-6 G Jr. Avon Lake, OH (St. Edward)
John DiBartolomeo Rochester 5-11 G Fr. Westport, CT (Staples) † ROY
Bryan Erce Case 6-3 G Sr. Berwyn, IL (Morton West)
Spencer Gay Washington 6-6 F Jr. Dacula, GA (Mill Creek)
John Kinsella Chicago 6-4 F Sr. Chicago, IL (University High)
Nate Novosel Rochester 6-5 F So. Lexington, KY (Lexington Catholic)
Cameron Smith Washington 6-5 F Sr. Noblesville, IN (Noblesville)
Tom Summers Case 6-6 F So. Murrysville, PA (Franklin Regional)

HONORABLE MENTION
Brandeis: Tyrone Hughes, Andre Roberson; Case: Eric Duerr; Emory: Daniel Curtin, Chad Hixon; NYU: Andy Stein; Chicago: Steve Stefanou, Tom Williams; Rochester: Bill Serle.

WUPHF

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 01, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
While I wasn't there, reports say that a few years ago the Bears' students were on break and IWU fans made up about 3/4 of the attendance.  Could that be the year we came to StL with WU ranked #2 in the country (and IWU unranked) and came away with the NCAA tourney victory?

In trying to figure out if I attended this game (I started here in 2005 and have been going to games every since), I did look at previous year schedules, and it looks like the last time Illinois Weslyan beat Washington University was 2005-2006 during the regular season in St. Louis.  I do not remember a big crowd, so I assume your reference is to an even earlier game, but I missed a number of games that year, so that may explain things as well.

Unless the schedules are wrong, the only player on the team who would remember falling to Illinois Weslyan is Sean Wallis.

iwumichigander

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2010, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 02, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
It will be interesting to see which school fares better in this year's dance, since their tournament winning percentages are currently identical at .684. IWU is 39-18, and Wash U is 26-12.

IWU's Salem appearance lead over the Bears is also on the line during this year's tournament...

Final Four Appearances (Salem Era, 1995-96 through 2008-09)
Amherst 4 (2004, 2006, 2007, 2008) - NESCAC
Illinois Wesleyan 4 (1996, 1997, 2001, 2006) - CCIW
Williams 4 (1997, 1998, 2003, 2004) - NESCAC
Franklin & Marshall 3 (1996, 2000, 2009) - Centennial
Hope 3 (1996, 1998, 2008) - MIAA
Washington U. 3 (2007, 2008, 2009) - UAA
Calvin 2 (2000, 2005) - MIAA
Hampden-Sydney 2 (1999, 2003) - ODAC
Rochester 2 (2002, 2005) - UAA
UW-Platteville 2 (1998, 1999) - WIAC
UW-Stevens Point 2 (2004, 2005) - WIAC
Virginia Wesleyan 2 (2006, 2006) - ODAC
William Paterson 2 (1999, 2001) - NJAC
Wooster 2 (2003, 2007) - NCAC
Alvernia 1 (1997) - MACF
Carthage 1 (2002) - CCIW
Catholic 1 (2001) - LAND
Connecticut College 1 (1999) - NESCAC
Elizabethtown 1 (2002) - MACC
Guilford 1 (2009) - ODAC
Gustavus Adolphus 1 (2003) - MIAC
John Carroll 1 (2004) - OAC
Nebraska Wesleyan 1 (1997) - ind
Ohio Northern 1 (2001) - OAC
Otterbein 1 (2002) - OAC
Richard Stockton 1 (2009) - NJAC
Rowan 1 (1996) - NJAC
Salem St 1 (2000) - MASCAC
Ursinus 1 (2008) - Centennial
UW-Eau Claire 1 (2000) - WIAC
Wilkes 1 (1997) - MACF
Wittenberg 1 (2006) - NCAC
York (Pa) 1 (2005) – CAC

In strictly historical terms, I don't think any CCIW school has more on the line in this tournament with regard to Wash U's fortunes than North Park. Right now my alma mater is the only school that has ever threepeated the D3 national championship in men's basketball, and, believe me, we Parkers would like to see it stay that way.
And the Titan Nation would like to accommodate North Park and protect the CCIW ' s back!

Titan Q

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Quote from: WUH on March 02, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 01, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
While I wasn't there, reports say that a few years ago the Bears' students were on break and IWU fans made up about 3/4 of the attendance.  Could that be the year we came to StL with WU ranked #2 in the country (and IWU unranked) and came away with the NCAA tourney victory?

In trying to figure out if I attended this game (I started here in 2005 and have been going to games every since), I did look at previous year schedules, and it looks like the last time Illinois Weslyan beat Washington University was 2005-2006 during the regular season in St. Louis.  I do not remember a big crowd, so I assume your reference is to an even earlier game, but I missed a number of games that year, so that may explain things as well.

Unless the schedules are wrong, the only player on the team who would remember falling to Illinois Weslyan is Sean Wallis.

He is referring to this game in the 2003 tournament...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2003/Miwu27.htm

Coming in, Wash U was #2 and IWU #13.

To this day, that's the most incredible road crowd I've ever seen at an away D3 game.  About 2/3 of that crowd of 2190 was rooting for the Titans.  (Wash U was on spring break, which hurt their numbers...and that was before they developed the types of consistent, big crowds they have now anyway.)  It was such a factor, the Pantagraph led their game story off with it...

ST. LOUIS -- Illinois Wesleyan basketball coach Scott Trost claimed his team has the best fans in the country.

Proof disputing that assertion was hard to come by at WU Field House Saturday night where an over-caffeinated crowd of 2,190 was 65 percent green either in dress or affiliation.

The bedlam they generated lifted the Titans to a stunning, 85-73 upset of No. 2-nationally ranked Washington University in the second round of the NCAA Division III playoffs.


http://www.iwuhoops.com/2003notes.html#@washu


In the days leading up to the game, Wash U All-American (and one of the best D3 players I've ever seen) Chris Jeffries told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "The circus is coming to town."  (Referring to IWU's crowd.)  

Titan Q

Quote from: WUH on March 02, 2010, 06:27:37 PM

In trying to figure out if I attended this game (I started here in 2005 and have been going to games every since), I did look at previous year schedules, and it looks like the last time Illinois Weslyan beat Washington University was 2005-2006 during the regular season in St. Louis.  I do not remember a big crowd, so I assume your reference is to an even earlier game, but I missed a number of games that year, so that may explain things as well.

Unless the schedules are wrong, the only player on the team who would remember falling to Illinois Weslyan is Sean Wallis.

Right.  The last time IWU beat Wash U was the 2005-06 season, when IWU was #1 and Wash U was rebuilding with the likes of youngsters Sean Wallis, Tyler Nading, and Troy Ruths.

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2006/miwu6.htm

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Titan Q on March 02, 2010, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: WUH on March 02, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 01, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
While I wasn't there, reports say that a few years ago the Bears' students were on break and IWU fans made up about 3/4 of the attendance.  Could that be the year we came to StL with WU ranked #2 in the country (and IWU unranked) and came away with the NCAA tourney victory?

In trying to figure out if I attended this game (I started here in 2005 and have been going to games every since), I did look at previous year schedules, and it looks like the last time Illinois Weslyan beat Washington University was 2005-2006 during the regular season in St. Louis.  I do not remember a big crowd, so I assume your reference is to an even earlier game, but I missed a number of games that year, so that may explain things as well.

Unless the schedules are wrong, the only player on the team who would remember falling to Illinois Weslyan is Sean Wallis.

He is referring to this game in the 2003 tournament...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2003/Miwu27.htm

Coming in, Wash U was #2 and IWU #13.

To this day, that's the most incredible road crowd I've ever seen at an away D3 game.  About 2/3 of that crowd of 2190 was rooting for the Titans.  (Wash U was on spring break, which hurt their numbers...and that was before they developed the types of consistent, big crowds they have now anyway.)  It was such a factor, the Pantagraph led their game story off with it...

ST. LOUIS -- Illinois Wesleyan basketball coach Scott Trost claimed his team has the best fans in the country.

Proof disputing that assertion was hard to come by at WU Field House Saturday night where an over-caffeinated crowd of 2,190 was 65 percent green either in dress or affiliation.

The bedlam they generated lifted the Titans to a stunning, 85-73 upset of No. 2-nationally ranked Washington University in the second round of the NCAA Division III playoffs.


http://www.iwuhoops.com/2003notes.html#@washu


In the days leading up to the game, Wash U All-American (and one of the best D3 players I've ever seen) Chris Jeffries told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "The circus is coming to town."  (Referring to IWU's crowd.)  

That would be the one.  I forgot that IWU was even ranked at all.

Marty Peretz

The 2190 there that night probably was on the low side too. Since WU's student union purchases a block of tickets, it's hard to count those students who walk in. Also, there are a number of ways to get into the field house without getting a ticket punches. When Wash.U. played Fontbonne in 2007, the reported attendance was something like 1500, yet I've never seen the place anywhere close to as crowded. It was almost full in the upper deck and anyone who knows the field house knows there were at a bare minimum 2200 there that night.

Unfortunately, I think things at WU could return to their pre 2007 ways once this crew leaves. It takes a lot to generate serious interest for d3 hoops at a major research university in a city with ample professional sports options and a well supported D1 team right down the road. The fact that the school draws from such a national base of students doesn't help either since, unfortunately, regional rivalry games with great CCIW opponents lack appeal for kids from the coasts who aren't die hard hoops fans.

The current senior class is active around campus and got a lot of non-athletes (usual fan base for the school is fellow athletes) hooked, but that might fade. Then again, I'm two years removed from campus life, so the case may be otherwise. I hope it is, but my sense is that it's faded a tad as the novelty of a national championship team has warn off.

Hoosier Titan

Quote from: Titan Q on March 02, 2010, 07:23:05 PM

He is referring to this game in the 2003 tournament...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2003/Miwu27.htm

Coming in, Wash U was #2 and IWU #13.

To this day, that's the most incredible road crowd I've ever seen at an away D3 game.  About 2/3 of that crowd of 2190 was rooting for the Titans.  (Wash U was on spring break, which hurt their numbers...and that was before they developed the types of consistent, big crowds they have now anyway.)  It was such a factor, the Pantagraph led their game story off with it...

ST. LOUIS -- Illinois Wesleyan basketball coach Scott Trost claimed his team has the best fans in the country.

Proof disputing that assertion was hard to come by at WU Field House Saturday night where an over-caffeinated crowd of 2,190 was 65 percent green either in dress or affiliation.

The bedlam they generated lifted the Titans to a stunning, 85-73 upset of No. 2-nationally ranked Washington University in the second round of the NCAA Division III playoffs.


http://www.iwuhoops.com/2003notes.html#@washu


In the days leading up to the game, Wash U All-American (and one of the best D3 players I've ever seen) Chris Jeffries told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "The circus is coming to town."  (Referring to IWU's crowd.)  

That was a memorable night, both for the crowd and the basketball.  Only students were allowed to sit in the floor sections, and the large number of non-student IWU supporters were sent upstairs.  I believe Chris Jeffries' phrase was "traveling circus," because as IWU established a lead everyone around us was chanting it.  That was my first year watching D3, and I've still never seen a better player than Jeffries or a better game. 

IWU's crowd is down a bit these days, too, so while I'd like to predict the same "overcaffeinated" traveling circus will show up, I doubt it.
You'll never walk alone.

jagluski

Quote from: WUH on March 02, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 01, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
While I wasn't there, reports say that a few years ago the Bears' students were on break and IWU fans made up about 3/4 of the attendance.  Could that be the year we came to StL with WU ranked #2 in the country (and IWU unranked) and came away with the NCAA tourney victory?

In trying to figure out if I attended this game (I started here in 2005 and have been going to games every since), I did look at previous year schedules, and it looks like the last time Illinois Weslyan beat Washington University was 2005-2006 during the regular season in St. Louis.  I do not remember a big crowd, so I assume your reference is to an even earlier game, but I missed a number of games that year, so that may explain things as well.

Unless the schedules are wrong, the only player on the team who would remember falling to Illinois Weslyan is Sean Wallis.

This did happen (I remember it very well), although it was while I was in school...it was the year Wash U was #1 or #2 and Chris Jeffries, Jarriot Rook, Dustin Tylka, et al were seniors in 2003.  And yes, IWU fans were the majority of the crowd that day.

WUPHF

Quote from: jagluski on March 03, 2010, 09:17:08 AM
This did happen (I remember it very well), although it was while I was in school...it was the year Wash U was #1 or #2 and Chris Jeffries, Jarriot Rook, Dustin Tylka, et al were seniors in 2003.  And yes, IWU fans were the majority of the crowd that day.

I did not question whether or not it happened, just curious if any of the current players experienced the game.  And, the answer is no.  My last remark is in regards the fact only one player, Sean Wallis, knows the feeling of losing to the Titans.