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WUPHF · December 18, 2010, 11:32:21 AM

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on December 16, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
Maybe I'm missing someone who could step up on this current squad (Spencer Gay is certainly coming into his own), but that talent pipeline was amazing over that stretch.

I am particularly excited about the game today between Washington University and Illinois Wesleyan. This will be the best home court test we get before the conference season begins.

In terms of the question, the newcomer of the year so far has been Tim Cooney. He reminds me a lot of Cam Smith, with his offensive acumen and his defensive and rebounding skills. And, I am happy with the play of both Hoener and Aboona. Time will tell if there is ever going to be as much excitement as there was with this team over the past 5-6 years.

I think we are going to need a few career games from, well, everybody today.

WUPHF · December 18, 2010, 11:34:06 AM

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on December 18, 2010, 10:40:30 AM
Ill. Wesleyan at Washington (Mo.) 4:00 PM

If you are coming in today, or watching online, that game is actually at 3:00 pm.

Video: http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/wustl.portal#
Live stats: http://bearsports-livestats.wustl.edu/Basketball/xlive.htm

Hugenerd · December 18, 2010, 11:41:36 AM

4:00 ET, 3:00 CT. Schedule page has it listed in ET.

Hugenerd · December 18, 2010, 05:03:43 PM

I guess we bought into CWRU a little too early. The lost by 34 to Hiram today to drop to 2-6.

Hugenerd · December 18, 2010, 05:41:47 PM

Buzzer beater 3 by Aboona to tie the WU-IWU game at the end of regulation, WashU now up 6 wth 1.5 minutes to play in OT.

WashU wins.

WUPHF · December 18, 2010, 06:38:44 PM

Not at all what I expected. Spencer Gay held scoreless in the first half and somehow Washington University is only down by one at the half.

I thought that game was over when Rosenkranz got the steal and layup along with the weak foul by Toth and the free throw to take the two point lead. And, then we have Aboona with the off balance three pointer to force overtime.

How about the Bears outscoring Illinois Wesleyan 15-7 in overtime? Wow! The best five minutes I have seen all season.

I talked about career games, mostly jokingly. Robert Burnett is probably going to be up all night thinking about his performance today, or maybe studying. Eight points on 4-5 shooting and six rebounds and some hefty defense. Congratulations on a great game.

Max Needle, Alan Aboona, Ben Hoener, all great today. Dylan Richter, 21 points (7-12 from the field). Spencer Gay, frustrated early, but makes it a great game.

ADL70 · December 19, 2010, 03:24:11 PM

Quote from: hugenerd on December 18, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
I guess we bought into CWRU a little too early. The lost by 34 to Hiram today to drop to 2-6.

One big issue for the Spartans is turnovers. They have double the turnovers of their oponents this year. The p/g margin is -8.5.

Hugenerd · December 19, 2010, 04:24:49 PM

Quote from: ADL70 on December 19, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 18, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
I guess we bought into CWRU a little too early. The lost by 34 to Hiram today to drop to 2-6.

One big issue for the Spartans is turnovers. They have double the turnovers of their oponents this year. The p/g margin is -8.5.

But that doesnt explain why they have been playing so bad (why are they making so many turnovers?). Are there injuries? Anything else that explains this?

David Collinge · December 19, 2010, 04:31:16 PM

I watched a bit of the Case/Hiram game, and was a little surprised to see how effective Hiram's pressure defense was. Case seemed to have no clue how to handle it, and it resulted in many turnovers and easy buckets for the Terriers.

Hugenerd · December 19, 2010, 04:37:17 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 04:31:16 PM
I watched a bit of the Case/Hiram game, and was a little surprised to see how effective Hiram's pressure defense was. Case seemed to have no clue how to handle it, and it resulted in many turnovers and easy buckets for the Terriers.

Is it an issue with the talent of the guards then, or game preparation?

David Collinge · December 19, 2010, 08:08:49 PM

Quote from: hugenerd on December 19, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 04:31:16 PM
I watched a bit of the Case/Hiram game, and was a little surprised to see how effective Hiram's pressure defense was. Case seemed to have no clue how to handle it, and it resulted in many turnovers and easy buckets for the Terriers.

Is it an issue with the talent of the guards then, or game preparation?

I can't really tell much from 2500 miles away, based on a few minutes of video shot from inside the student workout center high above Horsburgh. What I can say is that I'm more familiar with Hiram, a very aggressive and athletic team, and although they deserve a fair amount of credit for forcing the turnovers, other teams they have faced have not had as much difficulty with Hiram's press. It looked to me like CWRU had no plan to attack it, they'd just inbound it more or less like normal and watch the receiver get trapped while providing insufficient help. If there were any set press-breaking plays available, it sure didn't look like they were used.

Hugenerd · December 19, 2010, 08:11:59 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 19, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on December 19, 2010, 04:31:16 PM
I watched a bit of the Case/Hiram game, and was a little surprised to see how effective Hiram's pressure defense was. Case seemed to have no clue how to handle it, and it resulted in many turnovers and easy buckets for the Terriers.

Is it an issue with the talent of the guards then, or game preparation?
I can't really tell much from 2500 miles away, based on a few minutes of video shot from inside the student workout center high above Horsburgh. What I can say is that I'm more familiar with Hiram, a very aggressive and athletic team, and although they deserve a fair amount of credit for forcing the turnovers, other teams they have faced have not had as much difficulty with Hiram's press. It looked to me like CWRU had no plan to attack it, they'd just inbound it more or less like normal and watch the receiver get trapped while providing insufficient help. If there were any set press-breaking plays available, it sure didn't look like they were used.

David, you dont give yourself enough credit, it sounds like you made a pretty educated assessment from 2500 miles away, in just a few minutes...

Wydown Blvd. · December 20, 2010, 01:12:48 PM

In case anyone missed it. Video of the buzzer-beating three-pointer from WashU's Alboona to force overtime with IWU
Link

WUPHF · December 20, 2010, 06:01:11 PM

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on December 20, 2010, 01:12:48 PM
In case anyone missed it. Video of the buzzer-beating three-pointer from WashU's Alboona to force overtime with IWU
Link

The Titans had defended the inbound pass with such tenacity in the previous 2-3 possessions, forcing at least one time out, that I was surprised they backed off on the last possession.

Wydown Blvd. · December 20, 2010, 06:07:42 PM

Quote from: WUH on December 20, 2010, 06:01:11 PM
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on December 20, 2010, 01:12:48 PM
In case anyone missed it. Video of the buzzer-beating three-pointer from WashU's Alboona to force overtime with IWU
Link

The Titans had defended the inbound pass with such tenacity in the previous 2-3 possessions, forcing at least one time out, that I was surprised they backed off on the last possession.

Agreed... and in overtime forced a timeout and a couple other tough inbounds passes. The word in the huddle must have been "don't foul" so they backed off the pressure.