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Pat Coleman

Quote from: ADL70 on February 03, 2015, 09:35:41 AM
Curiously, CWRU got fewer votes despite beating #7 WUStL.  With the loss to RV Chicago, I wouldn't have expected them to advance, but I expected them to hold their ranking.  Although they did only drop one spot.

They aren't ranked. When you're not in the Top 25, you're not ranked -- and in addition to the definition and the terminology, what it means in practice is you have very few people voting for you, so you can fluctuate quite a bit depending on the opinion of a couple of voters. It only takes one team having a great week to have that kind of effect on lots of teams at the bottom of the voting.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 03, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 03, 2015, 09:35:41 AM
Curiously, CWRU got fewer votes despite beating #7 WUStL.  With the loss to RV Chicago, I wouldn't have expected them to advance, but I expected them to hold their ranking.  Although they did only drop one spot.

They aren't ranked. When you're not in the Top 25, you're not ranked -- and in addition to the definition and the terminology, what it means in practice is you have very few people voting for you, so you can fluctuate quite a bit depending on the opinion of a couple of voters. It only takes one team having a great week to have that kind of effect on lots of teams at the bottom of the voting.

Since we are splitting hairs, I didn't say they were ranked, but the definition of to rank is " to place (someone or something) in a particular position among a group of people or things that are being judged according to quality, ability, size, etc."  When teams ORV are listed in order by points, they are in fact being ranked.

Would it have been more acceptable to say "hold their position"?  I do know not to say they were ranked tied for #26 in last week's D3hoops.com Top 25.
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Yes... held their position is a bit better. When you aren't ranked... you can't hold a ranking. And you can't be ranked outside of the Top 25 when voters are only allowed to vote for 25 teams. Not everyone is voting for NYU, most likely, since 38 points is less points than everyone having them 24th (50 points).
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: ADL70 on February 03, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 03, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 03, 2015, 09:35:41 AM
Curiously, CWRU got fewer votes despite beating #7 WUStL.  With the loss to RV Chicago, I wouldn't have expected them to advance, but I expected them to hold their ranking.  Although they did only drop one spot.

They aren't ranked. When you're not in the Top 25, you're not ranked -- and in addition to the definition and the terminology, what it means in practice is you have very few people voting for you, so you can fluctuate quite a bit depending on the opinion of a couple of voters. It only takes one team having a great week to have that kind of effect on lots of teams at the bottom of the voting.

Since we are splitting hairs, I didn't say they were ranked, but the definition of to rank is " to place (someone or something) in a particular position among a group of people or things that are being judged according to quality, ability, size, etc."  When teams ORV are listed in order by points, they are in fact being ranked.

Would it have been more acceptable to say "hold their position"?  I do know not to say they were ranked tied for #26 in last week's D3hoops.com Top 25.

If they don't have a numerical rank listed next to them in the release, they aren't ranked -- that's the distinction.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Matt Palucki and Davis Rao made the 2014-15 Academic All-District Men's Basketball District 5 Team.

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/mbkb/2014-15/releases/20150205z4rbly

mck99

Washington U. head coach Mark Edwards discusses the depth of the University Athletic Association and UAA Athlete of the Week Nick Burt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSsJX32mtjg

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7express

Quote from: ADL70 on February 05, 2015, 01:18:10 PM
Big promotion by CWRU for Chicago Friday.

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/genrel/feb6_promotions

I only started following D-3 basketball when I went to Western Connecticut in 2010, so I don't know about the 20, 30, 50 year history of UAA teams, but could this weekend be one of the biggest weekends in Case's men's basketball history with Chicago & Wash U coming in for first place in the UAA??

Gregory Sager

The UAA only started play in the 1987-88 school year, so the history doesn't go back quite that far.
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Quote from: 7express on February 06, 2015, 05:55:57 PM
I only started following D-3 basketball when I went to Western Connecticut in 2010, so I don't know about the 20, 30, 50 year history of UAA teams, but could this weekend be one of the biggest weekends in Case's men's basketball history with Chicago & Wash U coming in for first place in the UAA??

To answer the question: yes, this is one of the biggest weekends ever in the history of Case Western Reserve Men's Basketball.

Keep in mind, the Spartans currently have am 11-32 record against Chicago and a 4-41 record against Washington University and had lost 19 straight games to the Bears before last weekend.

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The first games of the second half of the season are about to tip. Every game matters, but may none more than Chicago and Case Western Reserve. The game is online at: http://tv.case.edu/athletics/

February 6 
 
Chicago vs. Case Western Reserve   
Brandeis vs. Emory             
Washington University vs. Carnegie Mellon
New York University vs. Rochester         
     
February 8   
New York University vs. Emory             
Washington University vs. Case Western Reserve
Chicago vs. Carnegie Mellon
Brandeis vs. Rochester   

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Carnegie Mellon leads Washington University at the half, 30-22.  The Bears are getting good looks in the paint, but are struggling to finish while the Tartans are +6 on rebounds and 7-7 from the line.

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Chicago leads Case Western Reserve at the half, 47-40 in what is clearly the game of the night.  The Spartans could not miss from three point range last Sunday but are 2-6 so far tonight.

NYU is struggling on the road against Rochester, down 12 with seconds left in the first half, while Emory looks ready to send Brandeis on their way.