MBB: University Athletic Association

Started by Allen M. Karon, February 21, 2005, 08:19:26 PM

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WUPHF

Maybe the worst misread I have seen on D3boards.com.

No one knocked a player.  No one.

There was discussion on an NCAA policy that had clearly ended.  Nothing reached the level of the let it go comment.

The frustrating part is that if a player, coach or parent were to start by reading your post, given your status and reputation, they may just assume that where there is smoke, there must be fire.

Very disappointing.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: deiscanton on December 09, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
As you can see, people watching the interview have been trying to make a big deal about eligibility requirements.  I have stated earlier that I do not have a problem with his eligibilty by my reading of the NCAA by-laws-- others disagree.

In general, I do agree in the full-time study requirement of a student-athlete, but I find nothing wrong in the exceptions to this requirement listed in the by-laws.

Quote from: WUH on December 09, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
But the subsequent exemptions to the full-time enrollment requirement in the NCAA manual do not list graduation during the season.

Letting a student do nothing but.play a sport for over two months when others are in class seems crazy.

That's just two comments that did take it into the rhealm that I reacted to... and from what I have been reading it started turning into what appeared to be an issue.

And you can be disappointed, but aren't you the one who stated letting a student do nothing except play a sport over two months seems crazy?
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Mr. Mo

Seems like a great kid.  I applaud his acheivements.

WUPHF

#4578
You said that I knocked a player.

Clearly my posts were about the policy.

You are in the wrong.

Delete your posts.

deiscanton

#4579
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 10, 2017, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on December 09, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
As you can see, people watching the interview have been trying to make a big deal about eligibility requirements.  I have stated earlier that I do not have a problem with his eligibilty by my reading of the NCAA by-laws-- others disagree.

In general, I do agree in the full-time study requirement of a student-athlete, but I find nothing wrong in the exceptions to this requirement listed in the by-laws.

Quote from: WUH on December 09, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
But the subsequent exemptions to the full-time enrollment requirement in the NCAA manual do not list graduation during the season.

Letting a student do nothing but.play a sport for over two months when others are in class seems crazy.

That's just two comments that did take it into the rhealm that I reacted to... and from what I have been reading it started turning into what appeared to be an issue.

And you can be disappointed, but aren't you the one who stated letting a student do nothing except play a sport over two months seems crazy?

I was not knocking Jake Knupp for graduating early.  I applaud him for his achievement.  I also thought that the discussion, heated as it was, was about the NCAA policy.  I hate it that one of my comments got misinterpreted-- I did not imply that anyone wanted to knock a student for successful academic achievement-- my argument was for not changing the NCAA policy, and I made an argument to people on the other side that changing this policy would be akin to punishing the student. My argument probably got misread.  WUH and I were discussing/debating about the NCAA policy, and the discussion/debate got heated-- probably a little too heated.

I ended this discussion on Saturday, and I have no further plans to return to this topic.


deiscanton

Ronin Williams vs Lawrence Sabir update--

As of today, I concede that Romin Williams of Emory is the clear frontrunner for UAA Rookie of the Year.

1.) Romin Williams-- Emory-- 16.7 ppg-- 117 pts in 186 min of action-- 25.16 points pet 40 min.

2.) Lawrence Sabir-- Brandeis-- 13.5 ppg-- 108 pts in 234 min of action-- 18.46 points per 40 min.

Romin Williams is shooting 15-40 from 3 pt land-- Lawrence Sabir is 0-7 from that distance.

Emory is also a deeper team than Brandeis.


WUPHF

By most college sports forum standards, our policy discussion was a casual conversation. 

The conversation had clearly end as both parties moved on to discuss our teams.

Nothing reached the level of an issue.

Quote from: deiscanton on December 11, 2017, 05:11:15 AM
As of today, I concede that Romin Williams of Emory is the clear frontrunner for UAA Rookie of the Year.

It is too early to concede the award, though definitely the frontrunner. 

Not that I get to take any credit other than bringing up his name in conversation.

I am prone to hyperbole, but I seriously think Williams may be a Hakim Harris level guard, even if their skill sets do not fully overlap.

Between Williams and Matt Davet, Emory may have the tools to give Washington University a run for their money.  The first game is set for a Sunday in Atlanta!  Should be interesting.

WUPHF

I was going to talk about how Chicago was looking rather one-dimensional yet again and talk about their fatal late game technical did them in.  I was going to talk about their 3-4 record and SOS, but I'll leave it.

At the risk of making a big deal out of what is ultimately nothing, I just want to let everyone know that this will be my last post in the UAA thread.

I am sure this is an overreaction, but I no longer want to post if there is any chance at all that others think I am disrespecting the players.  I was surely wasting too much time here as well so this is for the best.

I had a good run and every so often I had something to say that arguably was worth reading.  Thanks to anyone who ever read my posts and thanks to those who posted here during my time. 

This thread has long been on life support.  Alan, I would love to see you resuscitate the thread you started.  I always thought that others would post more if I backed off.

I'll miss talking about the current squad which has been one of my favorites to watch in 10 seasons following the program. 

I'll keep my account long enough to finish out my fantasy league teams.  And, I'll probably show up on the CCIW thread to brag about the road win over IWU (they are extremely rare) and the home win over Augustana (old hat), but those will be my final contributions.

I'll also miss talking about March.  I think there will be a lot to talk about.  #LetsGoWashU

deiscanton

I'm sorry to see you go, WUH.  Maybe after some time passes, you can post again if you feel like it.  In the meantime, enjoy the games.

Smitty Oom

I have read just about everyone of your posts on this thread WUH and I never once thought you were disrespectful towards anyone. Very fair to all UAA teams.... sad to see you go, loved reading your posts and staying caught up in one of the most unique and interesting conferences in all of college sports!

Mr. Mo

I think the posts were all in good faith.  Hate to see you leave over what should be a happy topic — that a young man graduated pre-med from a top institution in seven semesters while playing college basketball.

Enjoy your posts on this board.  Please reconsider.

deiscanton

Massey predictions for tonight-- Men

Ithaca at Rochester

Rochester 81, Ithaca 67

Rochester-- 90%, Ithaca 10%

Wash U at Fontbonne

Wash U 94, Fontbonne 72

Wash U-- 97%, Fontbonne--3%

NYU at Hunter

NYU 76, Hunter 73

NYU-- 61%, Hunter-- 39%


hopefan

Quote from: deiscanton on December 12, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Massey predictions for tonight-- Men

Ithaca at Rochester

Rochester 81, Ithaca 67

Rochester-- 90%, Ithaca 10%

Wash U at Fontbonne

Wash U 94, Fontbonne 72

Wash U-- 97%, Fontbonne--3%

NYU at Hunter

NYU 76, Hunter 73

NYU-- 61%, Hunter-- 39%

3% Fontbonne?????   Sorry to say way too high....BUT. with all those Wash U seniors, WAIT 'TIL NEXT YEAR!!!!!!
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

deiscanton

I did not catch the come from behind win by Chicago last night over Albion because I was too tired and went to bed at halftime after half-watching the opening half of the game on the video stream, but here are some thoughts on seeing the season stats and the box score of the game:

If what WUH meant by Chicago being one-dimensional on offense meaning that Chicago's option #1 on offense seeming to be give the ball to Jake Fenlon and ride his 3 pt shooting to victory, I have to agree.  Chicago trailed by 10 at the half last night when the Maroons were too dependent on Jake Fenlon, and was down by as much as 18 pts in the third quarter.  Chicago balanced out their scoring in the second half and overtime to get the victory over an Albion team which currently has 1 win on the season.  Chicago goes to 4-4 on the year.

Jake Fenlon is an excellent 3 pt shooter, but no UAA team can be successful on just one player alone.  Brandeis found that out years ago with Rashad Williams.  Rashad Williams is in the Brandeis Athletics Hall of Fame for being the Judges's all-time leading scorer, but Brandeis was never successful as a team in the years that he played.

Looking forward to seeing Illinois Wesleyan make their 3 game run on the UAA over the next few weeks.

deiscanton

#4589
As far as the Chicago men are concerned, they did not make the regional rankings last year, and unless the Maroons win out in the non-conference, go at least 3-3 against the grouping of Emory, Rochester, and Wash U, and lose no more than 1 game against the rest of the UAA slate, the Chicago men probably won't be a Pool C candidate this year either.

Knightslappy currently has Chicago at a .504 SOS after last night's game vs Albion.  I like Knightslappy's SOS calculations on the men's side since the men use a home/away multiplier.

Could Chicago still finish in 3rd place in the UAA, as picked in the preseason by the UAA coaches?  Possible.

However, as far as the NCAA tournament picture is concerned, the teams to watch in conference are Wash U, Emory, and Rochester.