MBB: University Athletic Association

[WUPHF]

Thanks for sharing the report from Brandeis.

Hate to hear that story.

That may explain why a few of the players did not return from last season.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Not sure if this got shared last year: http://brandeishoot.com/2017/04/28/mens-basketball-faces-a-series-of-player-departures/

[WUPHF]

Not sure if this got shared last year: http://brandeishoot.com/2017/04/28/mens-basketball-faces-a-series-of-player-departures/

That is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[blooter442]

Thanks for sharing the report from Brandeis.

Hate to hear that story.

That may explain why a few of the players did not return from last season.

Yeah, a shame for all involved. Obviously the players were the ones who underwent the harassment/discrimination, and the coach made his bed with his actions, but still just not a pleasant thing to have hanging around a program.

Did not see the story from The Hoot, but it sure does provide some context. I am sure we'll know more soon.

[txg]

https://deadspin.com/ill-ship-you-back-to-africa-the-full-story-behind-br-1822668443

[Gregory Sager]

Good article, although it erroneously said that Meehan took Brandeis to the Final Four. The Judges have never made it to the Final Four; they've reached the Elite Eight four times (1975, 1978, 2008, and 2010), but each time they've lost the quarterfinal.

[WUPHF]

https://deadspin.com/ill-ship-you-back-to-africa-the-full-story-behind-br-1822668443

Thanks for sharing...

It is Division III week of course and so the NCAA has been sharing story after story as to why students (and coaches and administrators) chose Division III.  Then there is this story.  Terrible.

[txg]

Good article, although it erroneously said that Meehan took Brandeis to the Final Four. The Judges have never made it to the Final Four; they've reached the Elite Eight four times (1975, 1978, 2008, and 2010), but each time they've lost the quarterfinal.

Yes.  Also the technical foul story is wrong.  I was confused by it because it said the coach's son came off the bench to shoot the free throws, which isn't allowed.  So I looked up the play-by-play, and that happened at the 14 minute mark of the second half, not right before halftime.  And Player 1 didn't come out of the game at that time.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter.  Clearly there was inappropriate behavior by the coach at that game that was witnessed by multiple people.  It just seems sloppy to me (not a journalist, just an insomniac).

[blooter442]

Yes.  Also the technical foul story is wrong.  I was confused by it because it said the coach's son came off the bench to shoot the free throws, which isn't allowed.  So I looked up the play-by-play, and that happened at the 14 minute mark of the second half, not right before halftime.  And Player 1 didn't come out of the game at that time.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter.  Clearly there was inappropriate behavior by the coach at that game that was witnessed by multiple people.  It just seems sloppy to me (not a journalist, just an insomniac).

I did the same thing as far as looking up the game play-by-play. That being said, I did look up the foul shooting record of player 1, and -- while he had hit 15 of 17 not 17 of 19 -- that 2-free-throw differential was consistent.

[WUPHF]

Not to mention the fact the technical happened when the half was winding up rather than winding down.  Lots of time left in that game.  Interestingly, the author did get the Meehan Elite Eight records correct in the conclusion.

I do feel bad for the Meehan family.  The articles complain of nepotism and the examples they provide are certainly plausible, but Nate Meehan was a good player who had 5 players ahead of him in minutes per game this season.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just to follow up... I'm told NYU has coaches on campus this week and maybe into next as the coaching search enters it's final process. I have been given a number of names, but not releasing them as of yet.

As for WashU, I'm told they are into the phone interviews part of the coaching search. Again, have names - and a few extras added - but not going to mention. Per my finalists comment, those are names I am told the school is most interested in, but that doesn't mean others won't enter the mix.

As you can guess... both jobs have attracted some very good coaches.

Brandeis... has a lot of coaches wondering what to do. I think some are leery considering the news and now the investigation. Also unsure what the situation with the AD means in the short and long run. I think others think it is a great opportunity to help get the program back into the UAA and national mix.

[WUPHF]

I was thinking about the NYU job and it reminded me of a story that I posted here years ago about the history of NYU basketball and how they used to play to sellout crowds at the Madison Square Garden: https://nyulocal.com/the-history-of-nyu-basketball-you-didnt-know-c981f1cf0e4

NYU may not be playing to sell out crowds any more (or worry about whether their players are on the take), but the job is definitely a good job that gets much better with the new facility.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Of note... that new facility doesn't sound like it will be online until 2022 - and that date has been pushed back a few times if memory serves. In other words, how much is that a selling point right now when there are three seasons - minimum - until it is even a reality?

[WUPHF]

Of note... that new facility doesn't sound like it will be online until 2022 - and that date has been pushed back a few times if memory serves. In other words, how much is that a selling point right now when there are three seasons - minimum - until it is even a reality?

I thought that the facility was going to open in phases beginning in 2021, but I am not surprised to hear that it has been pushed back.  The building is going to open for much more than athletics.

I guess I see the NYU job as a career job and that whomever gets it will be there for the long haul.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Last I heard... 2022, but the timeline could be shifting constantly. Remember, it also started demo more than a year after it was scheduled to start in the first place.

Yes, I think NYU is a career job and whoever hired is probably there for the long haul. I think that makes it a bit more challenging a hiring pool AND process. The school probably doesn't want anyone to use them as a springboard, either (some schools understand their roles on all levels).

My thinking is this: if the facility is that far off and we are talking about someone looking to make this a career position... how much does the facility really weigh on the decision. I agree that it has a role and I can totally see how some feel it is major part. I guess I just see it the other way... three years isn't around the corner. One has to make a decision on this job with that facility not being a major piece of the equation - especially since the start date has changed quite a few times. Their decision should probably come down to other factors.

Other note: most are fully aware the gym is part of a larger building... just like the old facility. This is for athletics, dorms, and more for NYU - not just athletics.