MBB: University Athletic Association

[WUPHF]

I am surely not the only one who enjoys watching the most detail driven posters on the boards quarrel over minor details.  The boards would not be the same without you guys.

[Gregory Sager]

The NCAA considers that a grad transfer. It might not be an academic transfer, but it is an athletic transfer.

This still seems ridiculous to me, especially since it flies in the face of the principle that academics drives athletics, but I've long since given up on the notion that the NCAA does anything more than pay lip service to that principle.

I don't believe that anyone would question the academic credentials of a grad transfer.

That's only true if they know that he or she is a grad transfer in the first place. Undergraduates who are on their third (or even fourth or fifth) school are more commonplace and have been around as a type on the college athletics scene much longer.

I am surely not the only one who enjoys watching the most detail driven posters on the boards quarrel over minor details.  The boards would not be the same without you guys.

I always aim to please.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I think it gets lost a LOT on the fact the "NCAA" didn't decide anything. Division III as a whole decided to allow more flexibility with grad transfers (DI and maybe DII made changes themselves as well, I believe). DIII felt it was in the best interest of student-athletes wanting to continue their careers as athletes by being able to continue their education first and foremost.

Many seem to forget a lot of DIII institutions do not have graduate programs or at least ones that interest their student-athletes. I know schools like Transylvania don't have any graduate student-athletes because ... there are no graduate programs for their students to even stay and participate it.

Considering many student-athletes are actually student-minded first and foremost, they may very likely graduated in three or four years leaving a year or two of eligibility on the table. Instead of them being left in the lurch when a graduate program at their alma mater is not possible, DIII felt it okay to allow those student-athletes to transfer to another school albeit they were accepted into a graduate program and obviously their academic standards were still high enough (you still need a GPA minimum to qualify not only by DIII standards, but each institution if that GPA is higher).

And allowing them to come from other divisions has always been something DIII has allowed without sitting, so the idea has been extended a bit. I believe at the DI level, if I have it right, they are allowing graduate students to transfer without sitting a year as well because, simply, the student-athletes have lived up to their side of the bargain by completing their degree at an institution, so DI (and other divisions) don't feel it makes sense to "punish" a student-athlete who has graduated with a degree ... by making them sit as they try to CONTINUE their education.

I am sure there will be some who try and take advantage of the system as we see in ALL circumstances, but on the face of it I think what DIII is allowing actually celebrates the student-athlete more than anyone actually realizes. They can't participate if they haven't graduated and don't have eligibility left. Sure, COVID is adding a bit of a wrinkle to things, but some institutions aren't cheap and these students are still academically focused to get their degrees done and then go and tackle more education. That should be celebrated.

[Gregory Sager]

I'm not arguing against the idea of graduate students continuing their athletic participation at a school other than the school from which they graduated, Dave. On the contrary, I fully support it. I'm arguing against the terminology used to describe such student-athletes, plain and simple.

[deiscanton]

As of this morning, UAA games for this weekend are still on schedule.

Spectator policies for this weekend's UAA basketball games--

Spectators are allowed to attend games in person this weekend at Horsburgh Gym at Case Western Reserve and at the Palestra in Rochester.  Spectators must be fully vaccinated (including a booster if eligible), must wear masks at all times inside Horsburgh Gym, and maintain adequate social distance whenever possible.

No spectators allowed this weekend for games at Emory and at Carnegie Mellon.

(5 PM Eastern-- Jan. 28 update-- Yesterday, Rochester announced that in-person spectators are welcome this weekend for the NYU and Brandeis games.  All spectators must wear a surgical mask, a KN95 mask, or an N95 respirator inside the Palestra at all times.)

Rochester spectator update:  uofrathletics.com/news/2022/01/27/general-spectators-welcome-in-palestra-for-friday-sunday-basketball.aspx

Scheduled games-- Friday, January 28, 2022

All games scheduled to tip at 5:30 PM Eastern

1.)  (RV) Brandeis at (#24) Emory
2.)  NYU at Rochester
3.) (#3) Wash U at Carnegie Mellon
4.)  Chicago at (RV) Case Western Reserve

Scheduled games-- Sunday, January 30, 2022

1.) (RV) Brandeis at Rochester-- 11 AM Eastern
2.)  NYU at (#24) Emory-- Noon Eastern
3.) (#3) Wash U at (RV) Case Western Reserve-- Noon Eastern
4.)  Chicago at Carnegie Mellon-- Noon Eastern

[deiscanton]

We have a makeup date for the postponed UAA men's basketball game between Brandeis and NYU at Auerbach Arena in Waltham, MA, it is now scheduled for Sunday, February 27, 2022, at 1 PM Eastern.

To accomodate this makeup date, the Brandeis men's basketball game at NYU will now be played on Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6 PM Eastern at the Brooklyn Athletic Facility.  This game was originally supposed to be played in Brooklyn Heights, NY at St. Francis College on Saturday, February 26 at 1 PM Eastern.

Update now reflected on the UAA Men's Basketball Schedule:  uaasports.info/sports/mbkb/2021-22/schedule

The Brandeis at NYU women's basketball game will be played at "the Pope" at St. Francis College in Brooklyn Heights, NY on Saturday, Februrary 26, 2022, as scheduled.

[deiscanton]

I just want to inform readers of this forum that while I will be on to watch UAA basketball games tonight, my ability to watch games on Sunday will depend on whether or not I have power in my apartment at game time Sunday morning.

A blizzard warning is in effect for all of Eastern Massachusetts and all of Rhode Island starting at midnight tonight, and is expected to last until 5 AM Eastern time Sunday morning for the immediate Massachusetts coast.  Wind gusts up to 60 mph in my area are expected.

[Pat Coleman]

Best of luck to you and hope you are safe this weekend!

[deiscanton]

Yesterday, Rochester announced that spectators are welcome for this weekend's UAA home games at the Palestra vs NYU and Brandeis.  All spectators must wear a surgical mask, a KN95 mask, or an N95 respirator inside the Palestra at all times.

uofrathletics.com/news/2022/01/27/general-spectators-welcome-in-palestra-for-friday-sunday-basketball.aspx

The live videostream is still free this weekend for fans who are not able to attend the games at the Palestra in person.

[deiscanton]

Live videostream of Emory vs Brandeis is working, but the live stats are down at the moment.

Emory 24, Brandeis 17  10 min left in first half

[deiscanton]

Other scores around the UAA--

Carnegie Mellon 25, Wash U 15  6:16 left in first half

Chicago 30, Case Western Reserve 29  3:43 left in first half

NYU 26, Rochester 25  3:47 left in first half

[deiscanton]

Actually, Chris Mooneyham, Emory is having trouble with the live stats.

Rochester's live stats are working.  They just use the Sidearm Stats system, which is different from the main live stats system that the rest of the UAA uses.

[deiscanton]

Halftime at Horsburgh Gym in Cleveland--

Case Western Reserve 34, Chicago 33

Zach Munson with a game high 13 points to lead the Maroons.

Griffin Kornaker and Luke Gensler leading CWRU with 5 points a piece.

Halftime at the Palestra in Rochester, NY--

Rochester 30, NYU 28

Matt Wiele with a game high 12 points to lead Rochester.

Jacob Sussman leading NYU with 7 points
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Bobby Hawkinson with 6 points and 9 rebounds for NYU in the first half.

[deiscanton]

Halftime at Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

Carnegie Mellon 31, Wash U 24

Halftime in Atlanta--

Emory 44, Brandeis 37

[deiscanton]

Halftime stats from Pittsburgh--

Carnegie Mellon 31, Wash U 24

Leading scorers for Carnegie Mellon

R.J. Holmes with a game high 8 points and 6 rebounds

Jack Stone with 6 points

Josh Berry and Sean Oberman with 5 points a piece

Sean Oberman and Kevin Sax with 2 assists a piece

Leading scorers for Wash U

Drake Kindsvater and Jack Nolan with 7 points a piece

Hayden Doyle with 6 points

Hayden Doyle and Charlie Jacob with 3 rebounds a piece

No assists in the half for Wash U

Carnegie Mellon shot 10 of 28 from the field (35.7%), 3 of 11 from 3 pt land (27.3%), and 8 of 11 from the FT line (72.7%)

Wash U shot 10 of 33 from the field (30.3%), 0 of 10 from 3 pt land, and 4 of 5 from the charity stripe (80%)

Carnegie Mellon outrebounded Wash U 24-18, 4-3 on the offensive glass

Carnegie Mellon made 6 assists and committed 10 turnovers-- 5 of which were as a result of Wash U steals

Wash U made 0 assists and committed 8 turnovers-- 2 of which were as a result of Carnegie Mellon steals

Points off turnovers-- Wash U leads, 6-4

Points in the paint-- Wash U leads, 16-14

Second chance points-- Carnegie Mellon leads, 8-2

Bench points-- Carnegie Mellon leads, 9-7