MBB: University Athletic Association

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NYU leading over Carnegie Mellon, 31-15, with 4:53 left in the first half at Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh.

Bobby Hawkinson with a game high 10 points and 5 rebounds for NYU so far.

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Halftime at Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

NYU 39, Carnegie Mellon 22

Senior Day at Carnegie Mellon.

For NYU-- Bobby Hawkinson leading with a game high 12 points and a team high 7 rebounds.  Zay Freeney follows with 9 points, and Cinque Stephens has 5 points.

Bobby Hawkinson and Cinque Stephens each has 2 assists to lead NYU in that category.

For Carnegie Mellon-- Jack Stone leading with a team high 9 points.  Kevin Sax follows with 8 points and a game high 8 rebounds.  Charlie Tripp follows with 3 points, and Aidan Murphy with 2 points to round out the scoring for the Tartans.

Jack Stone, Aidan Murphy, and Josh Berry with 1 assist a piece for Carnegie Mellon.

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Halftime from Edwards Fahey Court at Wash U Field House in St. Louis--

Rochester 41, Wash U 32

For Rochester-- Ross Gang leading with a team high 10 points, followed by Dan Masino with 8 points and a game high 5 rebounds, and Matt Wiele also with 8 points.

Brian Amabilino Perez, Logan Jagodzinski, and Trent Noordsij each have 2 assists for the Yellowjackets.

For Wash U-- Charlie Jacob leading with a game high 11 points, followed by Hayden Doyle with 5 points and a game high 3 assists, and Justin Hardy also with 5 points.

Kevin Davet with a team high 4 rebounds for Wash U.

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Halftime at the Ratner Center in Chicago--

Emory 39, Chicago 32.

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Final from Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

NYU 77, Carnegie Mellon 51

NYU improves to 12-9, 2-8 in the UAA

Carnegie Mellon drops to 11-9, 4-6 in the UAA

Bobby Hawkinson led NYU with a game high 22 points and 15 rebounds.

Jack Stone led Carnegie Mellon with a team high 20 points.

Kevin Sax of Carnegie Mellon also had a double double of 12 points and 11 rebounds.

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Final from the Ratner Center in Chicago--

Chicago 84, Emory 79

Chicago improves to 9-12, 4-6 in the UAA.

Emory drops to 16-5, 9-2 in the UAA-- Emory is still in first place by 1 1/2 games over Case Western Reserve and by 2 1/2 games over Wash U.

CWRU plays at Emory this upcoming Friday.

Final from the Edwards Fahey Court at the Wash U Field House in St. Louis--

Rochester 72, Wash U 71

Rochester improves to 14-7, 6-5 in the UAA.

Wash U drops to 16-5, 6-4 in the UAA-- third place in the UAA.

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Teams still in the running for the UAA Championship with 2 weekends to go--

Emory, Case Western Reserve, Wash U, Rochester.

CWRU is 1 1/2 games behind Emory.  Emory and CWRU play each other this upcoming Friday.  An Emory win on Friday eliminates CWRU and Rochester from the title hunt.

An Emory win over CWRU and a Wash U loss at NYU on Friday clinches the UAA title and the AQ for the Emory Eagles.  Emory would have swept the season series over CWRU if the Eagles win on Friday, so CWRU would not be able to clinch the AQ even if they got to make up the second game vs Brandeis.

[WUPHF]

I thought for sure we would get an updated Covid-19 policy, but given where we are in the schedule, I think that is highly unlikely at this point.  I also think it is highly unlikely that Case Western Reserve will get that game with Brandeis leaving the Spartans with a final ranking of ineligible, I can only assume.

That certainly could change, but given that Brandeis has the next two Fridays/Sunday weekends and Wednesdays booked, I cannot imagine how that happens unless the Judges get another cancellation.  There is not enough time to get it done.

I think this comes down to a race for second between Rochester and Washington University.

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It would be interesting if Case Western Reserve finished at 10-3 in the UAA (.769 winning pct.) and both Wash U and Emory finished at 10-4 in the UAA (.714 winning pct), wouldn't it?   

All humor aside, I think Emory on Friday will do their best to defeat CWRU in Atlanta and get that season sweep over the Spartans so that this particular scenario does not happen.  Also, Emory would have to lose 2 of their last 3 home games and CWRU would have to go 2-0 on the Emory/Rochester road trip to set up this scenario-- the road trip to Emory and Rochester is perhaps the most difficult UAA road trip in men's basketball for a visiting team to sweep at the present time-- historically, it was the road trip to the Midwest teams of Chicago and Wash U.

It also will not be easy for Wash U to win out and get to 10-4 in the UAA without Jack Nolan, but the Bears still have a lot left in their arsenal to get road wins at NYU, Brandeis and Chicago and then get a home win vs Chicago on Senior Day.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first

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Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first

I have noticed on these current data sheets that only teams that got alphabetically ranked last week got to get a head-to-head record listed this week.  The head-to-head is the record between the team alphabetically ranked vs the other teams alphabetically ranked in their natural evaluation region only.  No records vs teams ranked in other evaluation regions are listed, and only those teams that got listed on the alphabetical sheet last week got to have a head vs head computed.

My question is:  Is that the right way to do this?   I have always understood results vs RRO, at least at the time of selection, to include the record head to head vs the team that is ranked and all other teams ranked in all other evaluation regions.

In my opinion, until the national table is formed at the time of selection, the head to head is being done correctly, as least as far as the RACs are computing it.  Until it is time for the Pool C selection process to officially begin, the RACs are comparing head to heads between teams in their own evaluation region, and it is just right to list the head to heads of only the teams regionally ranked vs other regionally ranked teams in their own evaluation region this week to save time.  I just feel that this is not the entire process to select the teams.

Nevertheless, here is how I am interpreting this data sheet this week in the head to head 1.)  Rochester's head to head record vs other teams ranked in Region III is 1-2.  UR has a win over Ithaca, and losses to Nazareth and St. John Fisher.

2.)  Emory's head to head record vs other teams ranked in Region VI is 2-1.  Emory has wins over Guilford and Maryville (TN), and a loss to Randolph-Macon.

3.)  Case Western Reserve's head to head record vs other teams ranked in Region VII is 1-0.  The Spartans have the win over Otterbein.

4.)  Wash U's head to head record vs other teams ranked in Region VIII is also 1-0.  The Bears have the win over the Illinois Wesleyan Titans.

BTW, Brandeis, which did not get listed on the alphabetically listed teams last week has a 2-2 mark vs ranked teams in Region II-- wins over Babson and UMass-Dartmouth, and losses to WPI and Emerson.  No team not listed in last week's alphabetical sheet has their head to head mark over ranked teams in their natural evaluation region displayed this week.

The other UAA teams not listed, and their records head to head vs ranked teams in their natural evaluation regions--

NYU did not play a ranked team ranked in Evaluation Region IV.

Carnegie Mellon is 0-1 0-2 vs ranked teams in Region VII--  losses vs Case Western Reserve and Chatham.

Chicago is 0-2 vs ranked teams ranked in Region VIII-- losses vs Wheaton (IL) and Illinois Wesleyan.  The Maroons have 2 games vs Wash U coming up.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I have chatted with the national chair ... we are unsure why the data we are seeing is not the full vRRO ... it is how the current ranked teams have done against the current ranked teams ... it isn't helpful.

We are working to get it changed.

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I have chatted with the national chair ... we are unsure why the data we are seeing is not the full vRRO ... it is how the current ranked teams have done against the current ranked teams ... it isn't helpful.

We are working to get it changed.

It should be changed to reflect what other sports committees did earlier in the academic year.   The DIII soccer committees presented the winning percentage, the overall SOS, and the results vs all of the ranked opponents in all of the evaluation regions for all of the teams on the data sheet of each evaluation region.  Until basketball came out with a totally different data sheet this season, the data sheets that were presented for soccer were in a format that I was expecting that most DIII sports would be using, and have used in the past.

Any change to how primary criteria should be interpreted or to the format of DIII sports data sheets should start in the fall sports season so that anyone following any DIII sport will understand that all DIII sports that use these primary criteria are treating like for like.  Primary criteria in DIII shouldn't mean one thing in soccer, another thing in basketball, another thing in baseball and softball, another thing in field hockey, and another thing in lacrosse-- it just confuses everyone.

Also, if you are going to change the number of ranked teams in an evaluation region to 15% of the teams in that region in future years, it will leave Region II with too few ranked teams in basketball.  I like keeping the number of teams ranked in an evaluation region to a guaranteed minimum of 6 teams.

I did like the non-conference SOS being listed in the secondary criteria, but I am not sure that the NCSOS is being computed correctly, either.

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Since the data sheets do not list these records, here are the records of the UAA teams against the alphabetically listed teams in all evaluation regions from the first week:

1.)  Emory-- 5-3.

Vs.Region VI non-conference alphabetically named:  Wins vs Guilford and Maryville (TN), loss vs Randolph-Macon. (2-1).

Vs. Non-conference alphabetically named from other regions:  Loss vs Wabash (0-1).

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically named:  1-0 vs Rochester, 1-1 vs Wash U, 1-0 vs Case Western Reserve (3-1).

2.)  Wash U-- 5-3.

Vs. Region VIII non-conference alphabetically named:  Win vs Illinois Wesleyan. (1-0).

Vs. Non-conference alphabetically named in other regions:  Win vs Dubuque (1-0).

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically named:  1-1 vs Emory, 1-1 vs Rochester, 1-1 vs Case Western Reserve (3-3).

3.)  Case Western Reserve-- 5-2.

Vs. Region VII non-conference alphabetically named:  Win vs Otterbein (1-0).

Vs. Non-conference alphabetically named in other regions:  Wins vs St. John Fisher (1-0), and Hamilton (1-0).

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically named:  0-1 vs Emory, 1-0 vs Rochester, 1-1 vs Wash U   (2-2).

4.)  Rochester-- 3-5.

Vs. Region III non-conference teams alphabetically named:  Win vs Ithaca, losses vs Nazareth and St. John Fisher (1-2).

Vs. Teams alphabetically named in other regions:  Win vs Stockton (1-0).

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically named:  0-1 vs Emory, 1-1 vs Wash U, 0-1 vs Case Western Reserve (1-3).

5.)  Brandeis-- 3-7.

Vs. Region II non-conference teams alphabetically named:  Wins vs Babson and UMass-Dartmouth, losses vs WPI and Emerson (2-2).

Vs Teams alphabetically named in other regions:  0-0.

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically named:  0-2 vs Emory, 1-1 vs Rochester, 0-1 vs Wash U, 0-1 vs Case Western Reserve (1-5).

6.)  Chicago-- 2-9.

Vs. Region VIII non-conference alphabetically named:  Loss vs Wheaton (IL), loss vs Illinois Wesleyan (0-2).

Vs. Non-conference other regions alphabetically named:  Loss vs Pomona-Pitzer, loss vs Marietta, loss vs Maryville (TN) (0-3).

Vs. UAA teams alphabetically listed:  1-1 vs Rochester, 1-1 vs Emory, 0-2 vs Case Western Reserve (2-4).

Chicago yet to play Wash U.

7.)  Carnegie Mellon-- 1-6.

Vs Region VII non-conference teams alphabetically listed:  Loss vs Chatham (0-1).

Vs Non-conference teams alphabetically listed in other regions:  Loss vs Randolph-Macon (0-1).

Vs UAA teams alphabetically listed:  0-1 vs Case Western Reserve, 0-1 vs Rochester, 0-1 vs Emory, 1-1 vs Wash U. (1-4).

8.)  NYU-- 1-6.

Vs Region IV non-conference teams alphabetically listed:  0-0.

Vs Non-conference teams alphabetically listed in other regions: 0-0.

Vs UAA teams alphabetically listed:  1-1 vs Case Western Reserve, 0-1 vs Wash U, 0-2 vs Rochester, 0-2 vs Emory (1-6).

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The data sheets have now been corrected to reflect results vs All Division ranked opponents, which is the vRRO that we have been used to for years. 

Keep in mind that the results will be adjusted next week to reflect results vs the RROs in the Week 2 rankings.

Any RROs vs teams in the Weeks 3 and 4 rankings are the results that count for selection purposes.

For example, for purposes of next week's Regional rankings, Brandeis will end up at 5-7 vs RROs, since Tufts and Lasell have now been added to the Region I regional rankings this week.  This is not counting this Sunday's game vs Wash U, which result will be added to the results record.  So, Brandeis will either be 6-7 or 5-8 in results vs the Week 2 RROs for purposes of the Week 3 rankings.