MBB: University Athletic Association

Started by Allen M. Karon, February 21, 2005, 08:19:26 PM

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ILive4This

personally i think i am going to have to fight for my guys or atleast guy here, brandeis spread the ball nicely this year so having more than one from waltham on this list is not a huge suprise, however Deluca on 2nd team is a big error. The NYU program yesterday even listed him as a possible player of the year candidate. This from the school who holds the defending co-player of the year.

I know you only looked at in conference games, but i must point out that he put up 30 against Amherst College, yes they Amherst College ranked as high as 1st in the nation, ranked 2nd at the time of the game. He Avg, right under 15 pts/game and 6 boards. On a second thought I think the Judges would have had a second candidate for 2nd team but especially for rookie of the year in Terell Hollins, had it not been for the season ending foot injury.

Just my thoughts. As a side note a look at PC's predictions the UAA has 4 teams going to the big dance. My Question to everyone is who will dance for the longest time?

Bba11man

i think bob's post is a good barometer but i think a certain bit of subjectivity needs to considered when determining all conference teams.  although statistics are the main component, team success is another important factor along with the impact an individual player has that does not show up on the stat line.  if you look at deluca, he's capable of putting up the individual numbers (see last year) but this year they were more balanced, and while he didn't average as many points, he's still the leading score, plus they had a much better team record and could/should be a tourney team. that teams distributes the ball very well and spreads the "wealth." i think the chicago is another example of this where the points are spread all around and the team enjoyed a lot of success and i think they have a few players potentially worthy of all-conference consideration. on my second point about player impact beyond stastistics, look at co-player of the year last year, jason boone. he didn't average the most points in the conference his presence in the lane is huge for that team. he impacts how players shoot when they come in the lane and forces teams to adjust just to stop him. it opens up all his teammates.  now that is not to discredit gaudy individual statistics of say spiros federigos who is up there in points, assists, steals, etc. i just think there are some things that statistics don't necessarily account for. that is not to slight bob's post because don't think that's what he was saying, i think he was just providing a statistical level to compare players.

hugenerd

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There is no way Case will get two players on the 2nd team, and I feel the same way about Emory.  Federigos may make first but Sosa will probably be honorable mention.  I think Deluca will take either Hainje or Woodheads spot on the first team.  I think Falcon (NYU) may get onto the second team, as well as Nduzibe or Juron for Rochester.

Hoop Dreams

Bob,

I think your formula spit out something that will pretty closely mirror the All-UAA selections.  Based on the statistics and the games I've seen this year, the five UAA players I'd start a team with would be

PG  Sean Wallis, Wash U
SG  Brandon Woodhead, Chicago
SF  Nate Hainje, Chicago
PF  Jason Boone, NYU
C   Troy Ruths, Wash U

My vote for Player of the Year would go to Troy Ruths.

dblock

the selections are probably postponed because the commitee is trying to figure out who to bump in favor of NYU... crossmyfingersihopesoknockonwood

hugenerd

NYU didnt get in, Brandeis, Chicago, and Rochester all in.

hugenerd

Suprising that they took Stevens over NYU.  They have almost the exact same QOWI and regional record, but NYU beat Stevens earlier in the season.  Any one win this season and NYU probably would have gotten in (yesterday vs. Brandeis, OT loss to WashU, etc.)

ILive4This

Wow four teams, this is great, I am so happy for the Brandeis Men (and Women) first time in 30 years the mens team is going dancing. NYU may have gotten a little unlucky but this should teach the AD to schedule some tougher out of conference games, their QOWI was just not good. The team is very strong, and should win the Metro ECAC with ease.

Im excited to see how the brackets line up but I think the Judges might be able to work through their region well. With many teams gaining high QOWI, because of beating up on one another. Trinity and Williams both showed that Amherst can be beat, but Williams clearly was not a Tourny team before the upset, and Coast guard was one loss away from a sub .500 record, so definatly some pool A teams that are very beatable, I am just curious as to where they will end up.

Also possible Wash U/Chicago matchup in the regional final?? Both look to have a good chance at being hosts but then again who knows

dblock

Quote from: dblock on February 25, 2007, 10:17:50 PM
the selections are probably postponed because the commitee is trying to figure out who to bump in favor of NYU... crossmyfingersihopesoknockonwood
Damn... I'm hurtin right now

howardjp

Quote from: ILive4This on February 25, 2007, 11:07:49 PM
Wow four teams, this is great, I am so happy for the Brandeis Men (and Women) first time in 30 years the mens team is going dancing.


Which was the last team to go then?  The 1974 team (Perry, Fahey, Williams, Wong, etc)went to the ECACs.  The team that succeeded them (Martin, Harrigan, et al) was also very good. probably was them, then.

ILive4This

Honestly I could not tell you which team it was, Adam Levin the SID for Brandeis just made the comment in his press release on the teams getting in that no brandeis mens team had made the tournament in over 30 yrs, and since that was well before I was born, even further before i matriculated, and the school website does not offer much history I could not tell you.

Your guess/analysis seems good tho.

Gregory Sager

Brandeis went to three of the first four D3 tourneys (1975, 1977, and 1978), accumulating a 5-3 record in the process. The Judges haven't been back to the dance since 1978. They aren't the team in this year's tourney that will have snapped the longest danceless streak -- Loras has been in D3 from the beginning, and yet this will be the first-ever trip to the tourney for the Duhawks -- but it is the longest non-appearance streak being snapped by a school that had previously appeared in the D3 tourney.

Manhattanville also snaps a very long non-appearance streak this March. The Valiants last went dancing in 1979.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

deiscanton

The men's bracket is out!

Both Amherst and Salem State got first round byes and will play on Saturday.

The Brandeis men are going to Providence, RI for first and second round games.

Brandeis will be playing on the campus of Rhode Island College in Providence, RI this weekend. 

Brandeis will play in the first game on Friday against the Trinity College (CT) Bantams, a Pool C invite from the NESCAC.

In the other first round game in Providence, RI College will play against the Cinderella team from the NEWMAC, the U.S. Coast Guard Academy Beavers, who upset WPI yesterday in the NEWMAC title game to get the automatic bid from that league.

This looks like a winnable bracket with some challenging games for the Brandeis Judges this weekend.

I will be in Providence, RI on Friday to cheer on the Brandeis men in their first game in the NCAA tournament since 1978.

Where I will go on Saturday depends on the results of Friday's games.  If the Brandeis women win on Friday, I will go to Emmanuel for the Brandeis women's second round game.  If the Brandeis men defeat Trinity, and Maine-Farmington defeats Brandeis on the women's side on Friday, then I will go back to Providence for the second round game.

Either way, I want official NCAA t-shirts from both fields to celebrate the occasion.

(Side note-- This is great!  I live in Canton, MA, which is almost halfway between Boston and Providence-- a little bit closer to Boston, though.  With the MBTA commuter rail fares having just gone up, it is cheaper to take the commuter train to Providence for me than it is to go to Boston.  Plus, there is a Dave and Busters at the Providence Place Mall near the Providence train station to hang out if you want to play there, too.)

ILive4This

Allen, I must say I have never seen you as happy as you were this past saturday after the victory in New York. Im sorry that I will not be able to help you get the crowd going at either location, since I will be running in the conference championship at Brandeis. However, I am hopeing the one or both teams makes it to the third round so that I can witness one of our fine teams play a tournament game.

As for the matchups, Trinity was the team I was most scared of I think out of the entire North East, I am not really sure why I just got a funny feeling. I would have been much more comfortable with a Keene St. or a RIC matchup, I think this throws Brandeis toward the bottom of the barrell, and 11 seed if I look at it right, and that just does not seem fair. However, first time in 29 years, We'll take it.

deiscanton

Okay--

The start time for the Brandeis v. Trinity(CT) men's game is now set for 6 PM Eastern Friday at the Murray Center at RI College in Providence, RI.

A few factors justified my deciding to go to the men's match on Friday.  They are:  1.)  Cheaper commuter train fare from Canton, MA.  2.)  First NCAA tournament game for the Brandeis men's basketball team in years.  3.)  The Brandeis women aren't playing Emmanuel on Friday.

I make no predictions on who will win on Friday, but I hope that both Brandeis basketball teams win on Friday.  (Yeah, at first glance, the Brandeis v. Trinity men's game looks to be the tougher of the two, but the women from Maine can play too!) :)

Also, to Ilive4this-- if you are running on Saturday, tell me what time your event is scheduled-- I am planning to come to Brandeis on Saturday to check out some of the UAA indoor track and field championships.