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Pat Coleman

Hayford reserved even harsher words for the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC), the league in which Stevens Point competes. "Someone needs to tell the Wisconsin schools, 'look around the rest of Division III. Do you see anyone else like you? You probably ought to go in the division that you should be in," said the sixth-year head coach. "The Wisconsin league looks a lot like the rest of the Division II looks like." LINK
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

jagluski

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
Hayford reserved even harsher words for the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC), the league in which Stevens Point competes. "Someone needs to tell the Wisconsin schools, 'look around the rest of Division III. Do you see anyone else like you? You probably ought to go in the division that you should be in," said the sixth-year head coach. "The Wisconsin league looks a lot like the rest of the Division II looks like." LINK

Maybe just to me, but it's amusing that the author of the article thinks Wash U is going to Steven's Point(who exactly is this Steven?) instead of Stevens Point.  At least for my alma mater's sake, Hayford is very compliamentary of Wash U's team as student-athletes.  And then, yes, he goes off on the WIAC(I just didn't post the link myself because I thought there were login issues).  I don't know enough about the situation to make an educated comment about the league.

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Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.

The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.

While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!

If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks! :)
Wait, dunks are only worth two points?!?!!!? Why does anyone do them? - diehardfan
What are Parkers now supposed to chant after every NP vs WC game, "Let's go enjoy tobacco products off-campus? - Gregory Sager
We all read it, but we don't take anything you say seriously - Luke Kasten


RIP WheatonC

jagluski

Quote from: diehardfan on March 05, 2007, 02:43:40 PM
Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.

The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.

While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!

If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks! :)

Thanks.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: jagluski on March 05, 2007, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
Hayford reserved even harsher words for the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC), the league in which Stevens Point competes. "Someone needs to tell the Wisconsin schools, 'look around the rest of Division III. Do you see anyone else like you? You probably ought to go in the division that you should be in," said the sixth-year head coach. "The Wisconsin league looks a lot like the rest of the Division II looks like." LINK

Maybe just to me, but it's amusing that the author of the article thinks Wash U is going to Steven's Point(who exactly is this Steven?) instead of Stevens Point.  At least for my alma mater's sake, Hayford is very compliamentary of Wash U's team as student-athletes.  And then, yes, he goes off on the WIAC(I just didn't post the link myself because I thought there were login issues).  I don't know enough about the situation to make an educated comment about the league.

The article reads Stevens Point. The headline says otherwise but headlines are rarely written by the reporter.
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The WIAC schools are public state schools.  Last time I checked, there are other public state schools in D3 as well.  Or maybe I've been doing too many recreational drugs lately.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
Hayford reserved even harsher words for the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC), the league in which Stevens Point competes. "Someone needs to tell the Wisconsin schools, 'look around the rest of Division III. Do you see anyone else like you? You probably ought to go in the division that you should be in," said the sixth-year head coach. "The Wisconsin league looks a lot like the rest of the Division II looks like." LINK

I'm not sure why he feels he's an expert on DIII athletics... though he's on his 6th year at the helm of a DIII program, he previously coached at NAIA DII U of Souix Falls, and Azusa Pacific.  APU is his alma mater, as well... and before a stint as an assistant there, he was a high school coach.  In fact, the year the NWC switched from NAIA to NCAA DIII was just in 98-99... a year AFTER the WIAC switched over. 

Ironically, at the bottom of the NWC's history page, there's a phrase that would seem to fly in the face of coach Hayford's comments:

"Division III institutions also seek to establish and maintain an environment that values cultural diversity and gender equity among their student-athletes and athletic staff."

HERE is a link to his bio.
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Just started a separate board for the Stevens Point Sectional in Multi-Regional Topics...that way we won't have to be in 4 different places while discussing Hope - Carroll - Wash U - UWSP.

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#954
Quote from: David Collinge on March 05, 2007, 12:53:57 PM
Things will, or should, be the same, as per the NCAA's policy:

Quote from: NCAA Men's Div III Basketball Championship Handbook, page 36Four-team Sites: Day One–Two games
1. Home team will receive one-half of available seating. The remaining half of available seating will be equally distributed in terms of number and location among the three visiting teams.
2. Each section should have its own clearly identifiable tickets (separate color than home supporters, other visiting supporters or walk-up tickets)
3. Visiting teams must notify the host institution in writing (via fax) of any of its ticket allotment it has not sold by:
• First- and second-round sites: Thursday, March 1, noon (local time of the host institution);
• Sectional sites: Thursday, March 8, noon (local time of the host institution);
• If the host is not notified by the visiting team by the prescribed times, the visiting team shall be financially accountable for its total ticket allotment.
4. The host institutions must notify the other visiting teams by 3 p.m. of that same day, of their opportunity to purchase additional tickets (the "returned" tickets must be equally distributed among the remaining teams, based on requests by the visiting teams).
Example 1:
Host Team A receives one-half of the available tickets. Visiting teams B, C, and D are given equal portions of the remaining tickets. Teams A, B and C use their entire allotment. Team D returns 300 tickets. If teams A, B and C want all the tickets they can get, then each will receive 100 additional tickets.
Example 2:
Host Team A receives one-half of the available tickets. Visiting teams B, C, and D are given equal portions of the remaining tickets. Teams A, B and C use their entire allotment. Team D returns 300 tickets. Teams A and B want all the tickets they can get, but team C requests only 50 additional tickets. Therefore, team C gets 50 of the 300 remaining tickets, and teams A and B are given equal portions of the remaining allotment (125 each).
5. The host must be notified by 3 p.m. (local time of the host) on the first day of competition of the additionally offered tickets that will not be used by the visiting teams.

Stevens Point Sectional Ticket Policy

So, how does it work if they consider all games separate?  50/50?  If they don't sell their allotment, are they given to the other school in that specific game or split among the other three teams, the other playing in the game and the teams in the other game?
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David Collinge

I don't have an answer to this, as it's not specifically covered in the Handbook.  The Friday split session is an exception to the standard policy:
Quote from: Handbook page 35Tickets shall be for all sessions for a single day, unless the men's basketball committee approves a plan for split session tickets.
Because it's only considered an exceptional circumstance, the procedures for what to do in the event of the exception are not spelled out.

St. John Fisher is also holding a split session Friday.  Wooster, which plays JCU in the first game, has announced a pre-sale of 450 tickets.  Fisher's Varsity Gym has a capacity of 1200.  Putting these two seemingly unrelated numbers together, I'd guess that the tickets for the first "neutral-site" game are split 50/50, and Wooster has reserved its first 150 tickets for VIPs such as players' parents and Posting Up Hall of Famers faculty/staff etc.  But that doesn't seem quite fair to the visiting team in the second game (Brockport St. for us, Wash U. for you), who probably only receive 1/3 of the capacity (at Fisher, that's 400 tickets) with the home team reserving 2/3, so I'm not sure of the arrangement. 

What I am sure of it is that it ameliorates the "big crowd, small gym" problem Fisher is facing.

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As promised:

restaurants

Off the top of my head:

I'm going to try not to name any franchises!
Guu's in downtown:  Great for burgers
The Final Score:  Sports bar and grill, serves food
Springville Wharf:  Must try the Cheesy Italian Fries
Hill Top Pub & Grill:  Great food, TVs, etc.  A common place for visiting teams' fans.
Bill's Pizza:  Downtown, eat in, take out or deliver (if you're hungary at the hotel after the game)
Topper's Pizza:  Delivery
The Wooden Chair:  Downtown, good for lunch on Saturday.
Sky Club Supper Club:  Great breakfast buffet (all you can eat)
Blueberry Muffin:  Nice little breakfast place
Olympic Restaurant:  breakfast


Oh yeah, go to Belt's for ice cream!  Seriously.

There is also the Point Brewery, not sure if they give tours on Saturdays.
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Compliments of Just Bill:  another Pointer poster.

A few others to supplement Old School...

The Sport Plate at SentryWorld:  Best Friday Fish Fry in town.
The Restaurant at SentryWorld:  Suit and tie. big bucks $$$
Pagliacci Taverna at SentryWorld:  Italian
Cranberry Creek:  Good sandwiches and dinners.
Red Mill Supper Club:  Fine dining, dinner only.
Michelle's:  Supper club located a block from Quandt.
Silver Coach:  Another semi-fancy place in a restored train car.
El Mezcal:  Good Mexican food.
Grazie's:  Pasta and Pizza.
Ella's: Sandwiches and drinks 1 block from Quandt
Partner's Pub:  Bar of choice for many alumni. I've been sober there long enough to determine if they serve food.
Hibachi Joe's:  Japanese and Asian specialties

And I don't know what list OS gave you, but this one is better (it doesn't include the entire state): http://stevenspoint.areaconnect.com/restaurants/
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Stevens Point Sectional preview from the UWSP webpage...obviously 90% of it concerns the Point team.

Link HERE
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I'm still depressed from last night and I'm still trying to realize that we're done for the season.  As diehardfan pointed out, it was amazing how any open shots Point missed.  It always seemed like sooner or later the shots would fall, we'd go on that amazing run and we'd pull out a victory.  I think I realized that we weren't going to win around the 6 minute mark and we were still down double digits.

Washington U gets lots of credit on the offensive end.  Of the three teams I was most afraid of, it was the Bears simply because they had a stud in the middle and they played our kind of patient offense.  We couldn't stop Ruths and their guards hit some pretty key shots in the game.  The Bears played a great game with patience and execution.  When they were up double digits, I was still hoping Point would make a run, but it would have to be offensively because Washington U just didn't look like a team that was going to fold under pressure and cough up the ball.  Kudos to them.

I'm not sure why Point played so bad.  Some credit goes to Washington U because there were a handful of times when Point didn't get an open look and at least once where the shot clock expired, BUT, we missed so many open jumpers, 3s that usually go in and just simple stuff like that.  Point forced the ball inside too much.  Yes, they should go inside and test Ruths, but sometimes I wondered why they threw it in when they did...lazy passes or what, but in the end, the better team won tonight.  I'm never happy when Point loses, but I would've liked to have seen Point make some shots and make it a game, but that run never came. 

The two games were complete opposites.  I wasn't impressed with Carroll or Hope as both seemed to run in full speed, turning the ball over seemingly every possession and launching a shot as quickly as possible.  I think Point wouldn't have had any problem with either team from the first game and that's why I think Washington U will win tonight.

I'll reluctantly probably attend tonight's game.  I think Washington U will pull it out with Ruths in the middle and solid guard play.

Interestingly, I want to congratulate Washington U on their 2nd place finish.  Every team that has beaten Point in the tourney has lost in the Final.

1997-Nebraska Wesleyan beat Point in the Elite 8 and lost in the Final
2000-Gustavus Adolphus beat Point in the 2nd round and lost in the Final
2003-Eau Claire beat Point in the Elite 8 and lost in the Final
2007-Washington U. beat Point in the Sweet 16 and...

Good luck to the Bears and I'll be cheering them on...I'm in the school of thought that you want to the team that beat you win it all since then it makes your loss look...[/i]not as bad [/i]!!! >:( :'(
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