MBB: University Athletic Association

[mark_reichert]

A conference resume includes far more than how many bids are recieved or even how good the top teams are; overall strength is what determines the best conferences.

Exactly!

How would I describe the UAA this postseason? Not as the premier conference, or even as the most successful (as GP87 pointed out, the ODAC is actually the most successful league in terms of tournament performance this March). Let's just say that the UAA is the best represented conference, and leave it at that.

What's the consensus opinion on the Massey Ratings?:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=6

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1

The UAA isn't at the top on either, second on one, fourth on the other.


(  It's on the women's side where it's tops on both:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&sub=III&mid=6

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&sub=III&mid=1 )

[Pat Coleman]

Consensus is that the Margin of Victory ones are the only ones worth looking at and the plain vanilla (BCS style) ones are useless.

[thx4playing]

Streaming video for all four games this weekend in Salem:
http://all-access.cstv.com/cstv/player/player.html?code=cs

Go to the CSTV.com link above, click on men's basketball on the bottom of the page, then click on the image to enter (or vice versa).  Look on the right column for the game.  It's free, but you have to register...

The catch is you need to be a PC user with Internet Explorer 6 or 7.  Mac users are out of luck.

Most of the D-I March madness games can also be watched on the same player for free, now that CSTV is owned by CBS.

[mark_reichert]

Consensus is that the Margin of Victory ones are the only ones worth looking at and the plain vanilla (BCS style) ones are useless.

Check.  I guess it depends on where your favorite conference is ranked whether you think even the MOV ranking is to be trusted.  

BTW, does anybody know why the UChicago was paired with WashU and Case Western with Emory?  I finally did a comparison through Google Maps and while UChicago is 34 miles further from Case Western than it is from WashU, WashU is about 150 miles closer to Emory than Case Western is.

Also, Emory and WashU are rivals in more sports, but that's only developed over time.

Perhaps it has to do with plane routes.

[hopefan]

thanks to thx4playing for giving us the site of the games two posts ago  -  I called it up and registered!!!!

question - on the site, the screen shuts off on the right hand and bottom sides, clearly not showing the whole screen   -  I can't get to the scroll bar, where it would likely allow me on Friday night to select the D3 games.  Yes, i minimized and stretched the screen, but it stops stretching before reaching the scroll bar.   Is it me, my computer, my internet version  (I have version 6)   ANYBODY???

[Pat Coleman]

I expect we'll have a more precise link on game day. We're providing the play by play and color for the semis and consolation game, so we'll have a lot of contact with them as we run up to tipoff.

[hugenerd]

thanks to thx4playing for giving us the site of the games two posts ago  -  I called it up and registered!!!!

question - on the site, the screen shuts off on the right hand and bottom sides, clearly not showing the whole screen   -  I can't get to the scroll bar, where it would likely allow me on Friday night to select the D3 games.  Yes, i minimized and stretched the screen, but it stops stretching before reaching the scroll bar.   Is it me, my computer, my internet version  (I have version 6)   ANYBODY???

Try changing the resolution in your computer's Display Properties (under Settings).  If you increase the resolution you should be able to see the entire display.  My resolution is pretty high (1400x1050) but a resolution of 1024x768 should be sufficient.  If you are at maximum resolution for your computer try pressing F11 when you are in internet explorer (or going to View -> Full Screen), this will allow the internet page to fill your entire monitor so that you do not waste space with toolbars or borders.

[hopefan]

hugenerd  -  that did it for me  (changing the resolution)-  puts my mind at ease  -  thanks very much

[Gregory Sager]

Consensus is that the Margin of Victory ones are the only ones worth looking at and the plain vanilla (BCS style) ones are useless.

Check.  I guess it depends on where your favorite conference is ranked whether you think even the MOV ranking is to be trusted.  

BTW, does anybody know why the UChicago was paired with WashU and Case Western with Emory?  I finally did a comparison through Google Maps and while UChicago is 34 miles further from Case Western than it is from WashU, WashU is about 150 miles closer to Emory than Case Western is.

Also, Emory and WashU are rivals in more sports, but that's only developed over time.

Perhaps it has to do with plane routes.

That sounds logical to me. I'm just one fan, but I like the fact that Chicago and Wash U have been paired together, because it appears to me to have fostered the rivalry between the two. The Chicago students certainly seem a lot more geeked up when the Bears come to visit Ratner than they are for any other UAA school, although I'm sure Wash U's excellence in both genders on the hardwood has a lot to do with that. Chicago and St. Louis are natural rivals as cities (just ask any Cubs or Cardinals fan), and have been such since the mid-1800s.

There are still some people in the Windy City who insist that the flow of the Chicago River was reversed 100+ years ago not to preserve the city's drinking water in Lake Michigan but so that the city's offal might eventually find a proper home in St. Louis.

[jagluski]

Article on Wash U Basketball in the USA Today.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2007-03-13-washington-university_N.htm

[mark_reichert]

That sounds logical to me. I'm just one fan, but I like the fact that Chicago and Wash U have been paired together, because it appears to me to have fostered the rivalry between the two. The Chicago students certainly seem a lot more geeked up when the Bears come to visit Ratner than they are for any other UAA school, although I'm sure Wash U's excellence in both genders on the hardwood has a lot to do with that. Chicago and St. Louis are natural rivals as cities (just ask any Cubs or Cardinals fan), and have been such since the mid-1800s.

Oh, you don't have to tell me about the Chicago - St. Louis rivalry.   I was just trying to find out if that was a criteria when they were pairing up the schools.  It would just have to be to create a 717 mile trip over a 564 mile trip, though both probably still require a weekend flight rather than bus ride.  Emory's so far from all the other schools no pairing was or is optimal.

There are still some people in the Windy City who insist that the flow of the Chicago River was reversed 100+ years ago not to preserve the city's drinking water in Lake Michigan but so that the city's offal might eventually find a proper home in St. Louis.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.    That overlooks the water we get from the Missouri and Meramac, and Peoria, Memphis and New Orleans among others getting the same offal.  But facts usually get in the way of a good joke.

I still remember a cartoon in which some big guy was going on and on about the accomplishments of Chicago and its sports teams and is reduced to tears when the small Cardinals fan says "1908".

I suppose the White Sox championship might have taken the edge off that for some.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I don't know about Memphis or New Orleans, but to a Chicagoan, Peoria getting the same offal is an added bonus (at least for those few Chicagoans who have ever heard of Peoria)!

[David Collinge]

Here is a link to Wooster's Final Four website.  Good luck to the Bears this weekend, and safe travels to all of you heading to Salem (or Springfield, for that matter!) 

[pabegg]

I finally got clearance to go to Salem!

So I'm driving down Thursday night/Friday morning.

I'm looking forward to meeting the D3Hoops.com crew this weekend.

[Pat Coleman]

Awesome -- will be great to know you actually exist in real life and not just in databasemanagementland.