MBB: University Athletic Association

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DagarmanSpartan

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That is correct.

Johns Hopkins was one of the charter UAA members, and was a member when I was in school at Case in the early 1990s.

Given that they left voluntarily, I don't realistically see them coming back.

It'd be nice to add MIT and Tufts.  The UAA would then be the "Technogeek Ten" or some such.

Realistically, I think that it'd be hard for those two schools to foresake their Northeastern rivals and join the UAA, but it'd sure be nice.

ADL70

Even when Hopkins was a member its participation was limited.

The earlier quoted post is incorrect, Emory was an original member.  The Johnny (or Louis) come lately was Brandeis which joined after the others.

From the UAA site:

"On June 25, 1986, the formal announcement of the formation of the University Athletic Association was made simultaneously at press conferences at the New York Hilton Hotel and on the respective campuses of the member institutions. Participating in the announcement were Carnegie Mellon University, Case Western Reserve University, Emory University, Johns Hopkins University, New York University, the University of Chicago, the University of Rochester, and Washington University in St. Louis.

The first official meeting of delegates from each institution was held in the Jay Berwanger Trophy Room at the University of Chicago in September of 1986. During 1986, work on the constitution and bylaws was completed, an administrative plan developed, and athletic schedules drawn for 1987-88 and 1988-89. In May of 1987, Brandeis University, a participant in the original discussions and planning efforts, joined the UAA becoming the ninth member of the Association."
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martin

Quote from: ADL70 on June 27, 2011, 07:57:10 AM

The earlier quoted post is incorrect, Emory was an original member.  The Johnny (or Louis) come lately was Brandeis which joined after the others.


You are getting your acronyms confused.  I said that Emory was not a member of the AAU (Association of American Universities) at the time of the formation of the UAA (University Athletic Association).  Emory did not become an AAU member until 1995.  Brandeis became an AAU member in 1985, just before the UAA got going.

The other UAA schools and the year of joining the AAU:
Chicago - 1900
Wash U - 1923
Rochester - 1941
NYU - 1950
CWRU - 1969
CMU - 1982


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ADL70

Sorry my mis-read (I've always been a bit dyslexic)  Your reseach debunks the notion of AAU membership being a necessity for UAA membership.
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Hugenerd



Mr. Ypsi

Wow!  For the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons I call early dibs on UC for the 'Last Undefeated Team' contest! ;D

ADL70

Spartans open with a 73-60 loss to B-W, a team they beat the previous two years.

This year's team is a young one, starting a senior, a junior, a sophomore, and two freshmen.

Last year's freshman point guard has been replaced by freshman Jordan Dean, an all-stater from Florida.  Anderson's replacement is freshman Julien Person (6'7 Houston, TX), who got noticed by ESPN as a potential Ivy recruit: "Person is a long and lean wing that is more athletic than he appears and is aggressive to make plays especially on the offensive end of the floor. person runs the floor well for spot up jumpers or beat the transition defenders to the rim where he finishes pretty well"

Fowler led with 27, but the second leading scorer was freshman forward Dane Mcloughlin, who added 13 from the bench.
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y_jack_lok

Wash U way too good for MacMurray. Solid contributions by a couple of freshmen for the Bears.

(509)Rat

I had the hardest time finding this thread...anyways, Whitworth beat Wash U tonight 88-66, they led by as much as 33 in the second half.

Here's the box score http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Teams/BasketballMen/Statistics/11-12/HTML/m2-washu.htm

Whitworth played great defense, holding Wash U to 30% FG and 20% from 3-pt range. It couldn't have hurt that Wash U doesn't have experience shooting in "The Fieldhouse", a tough place to gauge depth with all the space between the hoop and the walls.

This Wash U team is nowhere near as good as the 07 final four team I saw (the last time these two met I believe), but I'd be interested to see what some UAA fans have to say about this year's team?

Ethelred the Unready

Quote from: (509)Rat on November 20, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
I had the hardest time finding this thread...anyways, Whitworth beat Wash U tonight 88-66, they led by as much as 33 in the second half.

Here's the box score http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Teams/BasketballMen/Statistics/11-12/HTML/m2-washu.htm

Whitworth played great defense, holding Wash U to 30% FG and 20% from 3-pt range. It couldn't have hurt that Wash U doesn't have experience shooting in "The Fieldhouse", a tough place to gauge depth with all the space between the hoop and the walls.

This Wash U team is nowhere near as good as the 07 final four team I saw (the last time these two met I believe), but I'd be interested to see what some UAA fans have to say about this year's team?

For what it's worth, they were a 13-12 team last year, picked to finish 3rd in the UAA this year.
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(509)Rat

Thanks,

That's kinda what I figured, but the UAA is a tough league year in year out no? Or is their just a big drop off after Rochester and Emory?

Wydown Blvd.

Quote from: (509)Rat on November 20, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
Thanks,

That's kinda what I figured, but the UAA is a tough league year in year out no? Or is their just a big drop off after Rochester and Emory?

Usually the UAA is very tough, but I would say the league has been down a bit for the past couple (2 maybe) years relative to its prime. At its prime, Brandeis, UR, Chicago, and WUSTL were tourney teams (someone correct me if I'm wrong this is based off of memory) and the NYU's and CMU's weren't rolling over easily either. There was (3 or 4 years ago) always fun talk about having a UAA-NESCAC challenge because both of those leagues were top to bottom two of the best in D3. Based on what I saw last year, a pretty big drop off from UR/Emory to the rest of the league. Although note that Emory has only recently been on the upward trend as a program (without looking it up, new coaching staff I believe).

Ethelred the Unready

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on November 20, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: (509)Rat on November 20, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
Thanks,

That's kinda what I figured, but the UAA is a tough league year in year out no? Or is their just a big drop off after Rochester and Emory?

Usually the UAA is very tough, but I would say the league has been down a bit for the past couple (2 maybe) years relative to its prime. At its prime, Brandeis, UR, Chicago, and WUSTL were tourney teams (someone correct me if I'm wrong this is based off of memory) and the NYU's and CMU's weren't rolling over easily either. There was (3 or 4 years ago) always fun talk about having a UAA-NESCAC challenge because both of those leagues were top to bottom two of the best in D3. Based on what I saw last year, a pretty big drop off from UR/Emory to the rest of the league. Although note that Emory has only recently been on the upward trend as a program (without looking it up, new coaching staff I believe).

07-08 saw UR Brandies and Wash U in the top 10 most of the year, with UR and Brandies 1 and 2 for several weeks.  Made for some pretty intense games.  And Wash U ended the season #1
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Hugenerd

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on November 20, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: (509)Rat on November 20, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
Thanks,

That's kinda what I figured, but the UAA is a tough league year in year out no? Or is their just a big drop off after Rochester and Emory?

Usually the UAA is very tough, but I would say the league has been down a bit for the past couple (2 maybe) years relative to its prime. At its prime, Brandeis, UR, Chicago, and WUSTL were tourney teams (someone correct me if I'm wrong this is based off of memory) and the NYU's and CMU's weren't rolling over easily either. There was (3 or 4 years ago) always fun talk about having a UAA-NESCAC challenge because both of those leagues were top to bottom two of the best in D3. Based on what I saw last year, a pretty big drop off from UR/Emory to the rest of the league. Although note that Emory has only recently been on the upward trend as a program (without looking it up, new coaching staff I believe).

Just to go along with what you said. Prior to the past 2 years (the 5 year span of the 05-09 seasons), CMU made the NCAA tournament twice, including one conference championship, and won at least 19 games in 4 of those 5 years (including making the postseason all 5 years in that span, if you count the ECAC).  Since that time, things have gone south real quick, as it has for the UAA for the most part.