MBB: University Athletic Association

WUPHF · February 06, 2015, 09:01:41 PM

In the past, I would have said it would be too early to call for an upset alert, but with 13 minutes left in the game, Carnegie Mellon leads Washington University, 47-30.

ADL70 · February 06, 2015, 09:37:03 PM

CWRU has remedied two of the deficiencies form last week's game: rebounding and free throws. But Chicago is shooting 55% from the field and 57% from 3.

ADL70 · February 06, 2015, 09:38:17 PM

Quote from: ADL70 on February 06, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
CWRU has remedied two of the deficiencies form last week's game: rebounding and free throws. But Chicago is shooting 55% from the field and 57% from 3.

CWRU has battled back down 74-71 2 minutes left

Spartans got as close as two, but turned it over when they had a chance to tie. Final 79-73

Gregory Sager · February 06, 2015, 09:46:49 PM

Chicago edges CWRU, 79-73. The Spartans fought back from an eight-point deficit with three minutes to go, but a huge Case turnover with :13 left and the Spartans down two ended up sealing their fate.

Gregory Sager · February 06, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Carnegie Mellon beat Wash U, 72-59.

Emory slaughtered Brandeis, 89-53.

Rochester downed NYU, 85-75.

ADL70 · February 06, 2015, 09:59:39 PM

Chicago 6-2
Case Western Reserve 5-3
Emory 5-3
New York U. 4-4
Washington (Mo.) 4-4
Rochester (N.Y.) 4-4
Brandeis 2-6
Carnegie Mellon 2-6

Maroons in the driver's seat with h2h vs CWRU and a win over Emory.

WUPHF · February 06, 2015, 10:00:43 PM

Carnegie Mellon gets the upset win over Washington University. The final from Pittsburgh: 72-59. Definitely one of the worst shooting performances of the season for the Bears who had many good opportunities tonight including many potential points in the paint. The Bears had an awful night from the charity stripe (12-21) while watching the Tartans go 18-19 from the line.

A tough, tough loss for the Bears who are currently in third, down two games with Case Western Reserve and Emory (I should probably include Rochester) left to play on the road.

jaybird44 · February 06, 2015, 10:07:03 PM

Very damaging loss, to be sure. Bears haven gotten into a bad trend of starting slowly. Shots aren't falling on the road.

No wiggle room left, it seems. I'm thinking 10-4 could produce a solo champ or a tie for the UAA crown. Wash-U has won the UAA twice with 10-4 records, the last in the 2007-08 campaign when the Bears won the national championship.

Just win, baby...

Mr. Ypsi · February 06, 2015, 10:13:07 PM

And to think that WashU was a nearly unanimous #1 as recently as Jan. 4. Of course, Augustana was a nearly unanimous #1 as recently as Jan. 18. Lo, how the mighty have fallen!

(Though I have always suspected that this season there are no 'mighty' - just a whole bunch of very, very good!

And a whole lot more pretty darn good who can beat them on any given night.)

DagarmanSpartan · February 06, 2015, 11:38:10 PM

Darn.

Was really hoping for a win.

OK, since I'm not too familiar with the Division III tournament, what are the odds of CWRU getting an "at large" bid if we manage to hold on the 2nd place?

Is it like in the Division I tourney where you have some conferences that get 4-8 teams in, while other conferences only get their conference champion in?

I'd like for somebody who is "in the know" to please educate me. Thanks!

Pat Coleman · February 06, 2015, 11:53:34 PM

Highly unlikely any conference gets four teams in -- although the NESCAC does so on occasion. However, the UAA is a strong conference in Division III men's basketball, and in a normal season should get multiple teams in.

Mr. Ypsi · February 07, 2015, 12:03:48 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 06, 2015, 11:53:34 PM
Highly unlikely any conference gets four teams in -- although the NESCAC does so on occasion. However, the UAA is a strong conference in Division III men's basketball, and in a normal season should get multiple teams in.

The UAA does have one unique advantage over any other conference - the eight teams are spread across five regions. In d3, the selection committee chooses from just one team per region at a time - each region putting forth their 'top' C candidate. Once a team is selected, the next team from that region gets to the table (you can't be selected if you don't reach the table, where you are then compared to the other seven candidates). I haven't yet looked at the various other criteria in any detail, but just based on records I would say Chicago, Emory, Case, and WashU all have excellent chances, with NYU a dark horse. One of those will be the A, 2 or perhaps 3 may well be Cs.

7express · February 07, 2015, 12:28:52 AM

Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on February 06, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
Darn.

Was really hoping for a win.

OK, since I'm not too familiar with the Division III tournament, what are the odds of CWRU getting an "at large" bid if we manage to hold on the 2nd place?

Is it like in the Division I tourney where you have some conferences that get 4-8 teams in, while other conferences only get their conference champion in?

I'd like for somebody who is "in the know" to please educate me. Thanks!

The NEWMAC got 4 teams in last year, the LEC should've sent 4 teams in 2012 (yes I'm still bitter) and the NESCAC has gotten 4 teams in a few times, but highly unlikely a conference gets 4 teams in...

...however, the UAA is a conference unlike any other. Since the UAA is the only conference spread out through more than 1 region (and multiple regions at that) the UAA could very well send 4 teams to the tournament since there will only be one or two blockers (i.e. both Emory & Wash U can be on the table at the same time which can't be the same for any other conference

Gregory Sager · February 07, 2015, 05:51:40 PM

Quote from: 7express on February 07, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on February 06, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
Darn.

Was really hoping for a win.

OK, since I'm not too familiar with the Division III tournament, what are the odds of CWRU getting an "at large" bid if we manage to hold on the 2nd place?

Is it like in the Division I tourney where you have some conferences that get 4-8 teams in, while other conferences only get their conference champion in?

I'd like for somebody who is "in the know" to please educate me. Thanks!

The NEWMAC got 4 teams in last year, the LEC should've sent 4 teams in 2012 (yes I'm still bitter) and the NESCAC has gotten 4 teams in a few times

The WIAC and the NJAC have also reached the four-team threshold in past tournaments, but that was back in the '90s.

Pat Coleman · February 08, 2015, 01:26:17 AM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 07, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 07, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on February 06, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
Darn.

Was really hoping for a win.

OK, since I'm not too familiar with the Division III tournament, what are the odds of CWRU getting an "at large" bid if we manage to hold on the 2nd place?

Is it like in the Division I tourney where you have some conferences that get 4-8 teams in, while other conferences only get their conference champion in?

I'd like for somebody who is "in the know" to please educate me. Thanks!

The NEWMAC got 4 teams in last year, the LEC should've sent 4 teams in 2012 (yes I'm still bitter) and the NESCAC has gotten 4 teams in a few times

The WIAC and the NJAC have also reached the four-team threshold in past tournaments, but that was back in the '90s.

The pre-Pools 64-team tournaments were not comparable. With eight teams chosen from the Atlantic, especially, since it was about 35 teams in size, it was a lot easier to take four NJAC teams.