MBB: University Athletic Association

[Greek Tragedy]

KnightSlappy's unofficial SOS calculations of UAA men's teams

As of Jan. 2, 2018

1.). Carnegie Mellon-- .594
2.). Rochester-- .567
3.). Wash U-- .562
4.). Brandeis-- .540
5.). Chicago-- .533
6.). Emory-- .529
7.). Case-- .528
8.). NYU-- .372

As of Jan. 4, 2018--

1.). Carnegie Mellon-- .594
2.). Wash U-- .572
3.). Rochester-- .568
4.). Case-- .542
5.). Chicago-- .540
6.). Brandeis-- .538
7.). Emory-- .537
8.). NYU-- .396

Wow, Emory's SOS is pretty bad. I'm closely watching Emory now that I have 2 of their guys on my Futures Tournament Draft League. I think with a healthy Rapp to go along with ROTY-elect Romin Williams and Gigax, they'll be a tough team to beat. They have two losses, but big wins against IWU and Rochester show they have some talent. I think they have an advantage of being in the South Region as well when it comes time for Regional Rankings. I hope the UAA play boosts their SOS significantly so we can see a top 3 regional ranking in the future.

[deiscanton]

KnightSlappy's unofficial SOS calculations of UAA Men's teams

As of January 7, 2018

1.). Carnegie Mellon-- .588
2.). Rochester-- .586
3.). Wash U-- .565
4.). Emory-- .555
5.). Chicago-- .553
6.). Brandeis-- .550
7.). Case-- .532
8.). NYU-- .395

I don't know how bad a .525 SOS will be this year for basketball standards, but it does not get you a Pool C bid in soccer....😉

[deiscanton]

Chicago just tweeted that ICYMI, Jake Fenlon is now #1 in Chicago's 3 pt career list with 207 made 3 pointers.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

SOS numbers this time of the year are going to be all over the place. Hard to gauge what they really mean. In the UAA's case, when only one game against UAA opponents is even factored in, you can't get a true sense of the SOS. Emory hasn't played a who's who schedule, but that could improve with the top of the USA South and whatnot. Emory's SOS might look bad now, but I bet it will look pretty nice by the end of the month.

There is a reason we can't get an extra set of regional rankings earlier in the year from the NCAA and why the "once ranked, always ranked" went away. Even the first week's regional rankings have SOS numbers that aren't truly accurate of a team's true SOS. Not when they have 6-8 more games to play. That would be 8-10 (or more) if we had an earlier set of rankings.

[deiscanton]

SOS numbers this time of the year are going to be all over the place. Hard to gauge what they really mean. In the UAA's case, when only one game against UAA opponents is even factored in, you can't get a true sense of the SOS. Emory hasn't played a who's who schedule, but that could improve with the top of the USA South and whatnot. Emory's SOS might look bad now, but I bet it will look pretty nice by the end of the month.

There is a reason we can't get an extra set of regional rankings earlier in the year from the NCAA and why the "once ranked, always ranked" went away. Even the first week's regional rankings have SOS numbers that aren't truly accurate of a team's true SOS. Not when they have 6-8 more games to play. That would be 8-10 (or more) if we had an earlier set of rankings.

That is why I have not asked for an update of the women's SOS numbers.  I can wait on that until the Hoopsville Marathon is over.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

SOS numbers this time of the year are going to be all over the place. Hard to gauge what they really mean. In the UAA's case, when only one game against UAA opponents is even factored in, you can't get a true sense of the SOS. Emory hasn't played a who's who schedule, but that could improve with the top of the USA South and whatnot. Emory's SOS might look bad now, but I bet it will look pretty nice by the end of the month.

There is a reason we can't get an extra set of regional rankings earlier in the year from the NCAA and why the "once ranked, always ranked" went away. Even the first week's regional rankings have SOS numbers that aren't truly accurate of a team's true SOS. Not when they have 6-8 more games to play. That would be 8-10 (or more) if we had an earlier set of rankings.

That is why I have not asked for an update of the women's SOS numbers.  I can wait on that until the Hoopsville Marathon is over.

Just an FYI - the women's numbers are always available. Their SOS math is far simpler then the men's and thus can be constantly calculated. You can find it here: http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/women/2016-17/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

FYI - there could be flaws. I know Pat was auditing the schedules the other night because of some "regional/non-regional" mistakes.

[deiscanton]

SOS numbers this time of the year are going to be all over the place. Hard to gauge what they really mean. In the UAA's case, when only one game against UAA opponents is even factored in, you can't get a true sense of the SOS. Emory hasn't played a who's who schedule, but that could improve with the top of the USA South and whatnot. Emory's SOS might look bad now, but I bet it will look pretty nice by the end of the month.

There is a reason we can't get an extra set of regional rankings earlier in the year from the NCAA and why the "once ranked, always ranked" went away. Even the first week's regional rankings have SOS numbers that aren't truly accurate of a team's true SOS. Not when they have 6-8 more games to play. That would be 8-10 (or more) if we had an earlier set of rankings.

That is why I have not asked for an update of the women's SOS numbers.  I can wait on that until the Hoopsville Marathon is over.

Just an FYI - the women's numbers are always available. Their SOS math is far simpler then the men's and thus can be constantly calculated. You can find it here: http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/women/2016-17/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

FYI - there could be flaws. I know Pat was auditing the schedules the other night because of some "regional/non-regional" mistakes.

Thanks for providing the link.  The first women's SOS numbers from the 2017-18 season have not yet been calculated-- we still have the final numbers from 2016-17, and that is what I meant to say when I said that I have not asked for an update for the new season.

[deiscanton]

UAA Men's Basketball Player of the Week for Week 1 of UAA play is TJ Duckett of Case Western Reserve University.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

SOS numbers this time of the year are going to be all over the place. Hard to gauge what they really mean. In the UAA's case, when only one game against UAA opponents is even factored in, you can't get a true sense of the SOS. Emory hasn't played a who's who schedule, but that could improve with the top of the USA South and whatnot. Emory's SOS might look bad now, but I bet it will look pretty nice by the end of the month.

There is a reason we can't get an extra set of regional rankings earlier in the year from the NCAA and why the "once ranked, always ranked" went away. Even the first week's regional rankings have SOS numbers that aren't truly accurate of a team's true SOS. Not when they have 6-8 more games to play. That would be 8-10 (or more) if we had an earlier set of rankings.

That is why I have not asked for an update of the women's SOS numbers.  I can wait on that until the Hoopsville Marathon is over.

Just an FYI - the women's numbers are always available. Their SOS math is far simpler then the men's and thus can be constantly calculated. You can find it here: http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/women/2016-17/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

FYI - there could be flaws. I know Pat was auditing the schedules the other night because of some "regional/non-regional" mistakes.

Thanks for providing the link.  The first women's SOS numbers from the 2017-18 season have not yet been calculated-- we still have the final numbers from 2016-17, and that is what I meant to say when I said that I have not asked for an update for the new season.

Oh duh - that is a 16-17 link... I'll work on that behind the scenes. Sorry about that. Wasn't even looking at the address.

[Pat Coleman]

Just change the numbers in the URL.

[mck99]

Check out the feature story from KSDK Channel 5 on the 10th-ranked WashU Bears!
http://www.ksdk.com/article/sports/college/balance-allowing-no-10-washu-to-thrive/63-505632389?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a52c3c14b7385000713e970&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[Smitty Oom]

Come for the WashU Bears, and stay for the St. Louis College of Pharmacy Eutectics! http://www.ksdk.com/article/sports/college/meet-the-stl-college-basketball-team-that-cant-win-and-its-okay/63-506058714

In all seriousness, good story on the Bears. Love seeing d3 teams get some media!

[deiscanton]

Due to a water main break near the Hunter campus, spectators were not allowed inside the Sportsplex tonight.  NYU played John Jay tonight inside an empty gym, with no pep band, fans, or cheerleaders, as Hunter did not completely close the building.   Live video and stats were webcasted, and the PA announcer still called the game as though there was an audience inside the building.

NYU defeated John Jay, 79-68, while Amherst defeated Brandeis, 102-82, at Auerbach Arena in Waltham, MA.

UAA has now finished non-conference play.

[Riley056]

First weekend of 2 games for UAA play

How bad does Chicago need 2 wins?
Wash U and Emory could see 3-0 by Sunday afternoon?

Anyone with an upset pick?

[deiscanton]

First weekend of 2 games for UAA play

How bad does Chicago need 2 wins?
Wash U and Emory could see 3-0 by Sunday afternoon?

Anyone with an upset pick?

I will take a stab with Case Western Reserve going 1-1 on the road.  They took Emory to overtime in Atlanta last year, and then pulled off the upset at Rochester that allowed Wash U to win the AQ outright at Brandeis.  CWRU beat Carnegie Mellon handily last Saturday. 

Chicago went 2-0 on this slate (NYU and Brandeis) last year at Ratner, as did Wash U on this same slate at the Field House.  Brandeis is a younger team this year-- NYU may have a better chance to win at Chicago or Wash U, but not enough for me to take a flyer on them, IMO.

Anything can happen on any given day in the UAA.

I don't see Chicago going to NCAAs this year, however.