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hopefan

Wash U's performance this weekend can hardly help them... why would anyone change their vote as long as Whitman keeps winning?  My point of view is to hold serve, keep winning, and HOPFULLY, SANELY, (but who knows with our friends at the NCAA) be placed in a bracket the other side from Whitman's placement... sure would be fun to root for a WashU Whitman final...and while we're at it, let's figure out how to get Wittenberg and the NESCAC winner in the final 4 too ;D ;D ;D
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deiscanton

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Quote from: hopefan on January 30, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Wash U's performance this weekend can hardly help them... why would anyone change their vote as long as Whitman keeps winning?  My point of view is to hold serve, keep winning, and HOPFULLY, SANELY, (but who knows with our friends at the NCAA) be placed in a bracket the other side from Whitman's placement... sure would be fun to root for a WashU Whitman final...and while we're at it, let's figure out how to get Wittenberg and the NESCAC winner in the final 4 too ;D ;D ;D

I know-- but the discussion on Wash U vs Whitman on Top 25 Double Take on the most recent Hoopsville a few days ago between d-mac and Ryan Scott was fun and great to watch. 😁 If you haven't seen it, I suggest that you watch it.


jaybird44

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As much as I enjoy seeing Wash-U get a lot of praise lately, it will need to play an exceptional game Friday night in the rematch with Rochester.  No resting on recent laurels.

Wash-U leads the all-time series 38-25, but the series has been razor close in the last 15 and 30 meetings.

The Bears are 8-7 over Rochester in the last 15 meetings, with 14 points separating the teams to Wash-U's favor.  An average margin of victory of 0.93 points/game.  So, before Wash-U's 77-62 win at Rochester last Friday, only 1 point had separated the teams in the prior 14 meetings (in Rochester's favor)...with a 7-7 split of games.  A near dead-heat differential of 0.07 points per game.

In the last 30 meetings, dating back to the second match-up of the 2002-03 season, WashU has scored 2,163 points to Rochester's 2,133.  30 points separate the teams, an average winning margin of 1 point per game.

Fun in the Fieldhouse Friday night...

WUPHF

The brief history of the match-up with Rochester reminds me of that fateful game over nine years ago on a cold Sunday in the Field House when Washington University coughed up a lead they had held for most of the game. 

They made a final push in the final minutes and trailing by one, had an opportunity for the go-ahead three pointer and then two free throws to tie and win the game.  Unfortunately, they missed both...

That 2008-2009 squad would go on to win the league with a 12-1 record.

Probably none of the current players remember that game, but the entire senior class would remember that 2014-2015 game against Chicago.  That team had an 11-0 record and No. 1 ranking behind a 80+ points per game offense when they traveled to Chicago for the first game of the conference season.  They would lose by 20 points having scored a paltry 43 points.

One of my all time favorite games between the two happened last season in Rochester in week two of league play.  Rochester was 12-0 and ranked No. 3 and looked the favorites.  Washington University played to their strengths, played good defense and finally began to prove that they could close out close games. 

Washington University would have the upper hand in the conference standings for round two but that was not enough to prevent the slow start and the 13 point loss.

Rochester will certainly come in to the Field House on Friday having learned the lessons from last week.  No question that this will be a tough, tough game.

deiscanton

This weekend, Case Western Reserve University (CWRU, a/k/a Case) will be hosting Brandeis and NYU at Adelbert Gymnasium for its 13th Annual Throwback Weekend.

CWRU's men will wear the uniforms of the Western Reserve Red Cats on Friday, and will don the CIT Rough Riders uniforms on Sunday.

More info:

Information on CWRU's 13th Annual Throwback Weekend: February 2-4

blue_jays

Quote from: WUH on January 30, 2018, 09:43:53 AM
Quote from: deiscanton on January 30, 2018, 01:07:24 AM
Looks like no one decided to give Wash U a #1 vote this Week-- waiting to next Sunday's match with Emory on Edwards-Fahey Court at WU Field House.

I have heard references to players reading the board in other threads.  I have long assumed that there was not enough discussion for UAA players to bother.

Rochester and Emory are going to come in the Field House hungry for the win, so in case any Washington University player happens to come here, I'll reiterate the point: you guys got zero No. 1 votes!



Zero #1 votes for WashU is the correct call. Whitman is undefeated with a +26 winning margin while averaging over 100 PPG. WashU got beat handily by Augustana, dropped a head scratcher to Mount St. Joseph, and barely scrapped by a .500 Chicago squad in the final seconds.

WUPHF

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Quote from: blue_jays on January 31, 2018, 03:47:54 PM
Zero #1 votes for WashU is the correct call. Whitman is undefeated with a +26 winning margin while averaging over 100 PPG. WashU got beat handily by Augustana, dropped a head scratcher to Mount St. Joseph, and barely scrapped by a .500 Chicago squad in the final seconds.

You may have quoted the wrong post as I was not the one to bring up the No. 1 ranking as a point to be discussed.

Keep in mind though that Washington University did lose that Mount St. Josephs game with their leading scorer on the bench and that absence was obvious, especially on the defensive end.  MSJ shot nearly 70% from the field and over 50% from three point range and equaled the points in the paint.  Just my opinion, but that does not happen with the entire starting line-up in the game.

I am sure someone more knowledgeable than me can speak to this, but that MSJ team actually looks pretty good...13-6 on the season and No. 65 in Massey.

I did not find the Chicago result all that surprising.  Chicago is worse this season by record than I expected, but they have played to their potential at times taking both Wheaton and Emory to the wire.  They defeated Rochester.

The Augustana was a tough loss and especially tough after coming off one of the biggest wins this senior class has seen.  Washington University won the second half, but in the first half, one team came out flat and the other team was hitting even the most well contested shots.

Mr. Mo

Quote from: Mr. Mo on November 29, 2017, 06:48:54 PM

Playing their fifth game in nine days; coming off of a very physical game with ONU the evening before on an 18 hr turnaround; and adjusting to playing without their preseason AA who rolled an ankle, the Bears were a little out of sorts on Sunday.  Add in a white hot shooting MSJ team (75% from 3 in first half;70% overall for game) and it was tough day for the Bears.

From Nov. 29 post regarding the Mt. St. Joseph game.  That game was also before Jack Nolan started playing significant minutes. 

Augustana game was the first game back from the Christmas break.  WashU had a nine-day break and it showed.  Augie came out sharp early and won the game.  Maybe the extra rest will help the Bears down the stretch ;-).

WUPHF

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I agree with what you said.

That was quite a physical game with Ohio Northern by the way.  The Polar Bears are 13-7 and ranked No. 23 in Massey. 

Washington University has actually played a good schedule.  There are different metrics with which to measure, but sticking with Massey, they have the SOS at No. 45.

WUPHF

Washington University defeats Rochester 77-63 in front of a great student crowd (also a lot of old folks like me) and a host of Bears legends including Troy Ruths, Aaron Thompson and Shawn Wallis who was inducted in to the Hall of Fame.  Congratulations!

Rochester was able to stay in the game for a while thanks in part to their three point shooting, but Washington University held a double digit lead for most of the second half and would eventually stretch the lead to 26 with 6:19 to go.  The final outcome was nearly identical to the score from one week ago. 

Overall, a very nice game from everyone including the big man who had one of his best games finishing with 15 points (7-13), 11 rebounds and zero fouls.

hopefan

Quote from: WUH on February 03, 2018, 12:41:27 AM
Washington University defeats Rochester 77-63 in front of a great student crowd (also a lot of old folks like me) and a host of Bears legends including Troy Ruths, Aaron Thompson and Shawn Wallis who was inducted in to the Hall of Fame.  Congratulations!

Rochester was able to stay in the game for a while thanks in part to their three point shooting, but Washington University held a double digit lead for most of the second half and would eventually stretch the lead to 26 with 6:19 to go.  The final outcome was nearly identical to the score from one week ago. 

Overall, a very nice game from everyone including the big man who had one of his best games finishing with 15 points (7-13), 11 rebounds and zero fouls.

Wish I had been in town to see that!!!!
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WUPHF

Woah, I made a few mistakes in that last post.

Sean Wallis (not Shawn) was admitted in to the hall of fame.

Others were in attendance to support their teammate.

Ruths and Wallis are both in the hall as a team and as individuals, but I am sure others are going to garner consideration over time.

hopefan

Quote from: WUH on February 03, 2018, 08:53:49 AM
Woah, I made a few mistakes in that last post.

Sean Wallis (not Shawn) was admitted in to the hall of fame.

Others were in attendance to support their teammate.

Ruths and Wallis are both in the hall as a team and as individuals, but I am sure others are going to garner consideration over time.

AGREED... Tyler Nading, Aaron Thompson should both be obvious entrants....
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