MBB: University Athletic Association

[WUPHF]

NYU has officially announced their next recruiting class.

They add 9 new players including 3 transfer students; one of which has transferred from Division I Marshall though after a cursory review, it does not seem as though he played there.

https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2020/6/3/mens-basketball-announces-2024-recruiting-class.aspx

As an aside, Dom Cristiano has signed as a graduate student with Division II Pace University.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

NYU has officially announced their next recruiting class.

They add 9 new players including 3 transfer students; one of which has transferred from Division I Marshall though after a cursory review, it does not seem as though he played there.

https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2020/6/3/mens-basketball-announces-2024-recruiting-class.aspx

As an aside, Dom Cristiano has signed as a graduate student with Division II Pace University.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand they've pulled the story already.  Must not have gotten deposits from everyone just yet.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

NYU has officially announced their next recruiting class.

They add 9 new players including 3 transfer students; one of which has transferred from Division I Marshall though after a cursory review, it does not seem as though he played there.

https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2020/6/3/mens-basketball-announces-2024-recruiting-class.aspx

As an aside, Dom Cristiano has signed as a graduate student with Division II Pace University.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand they've pulled the story already.  Must not have gotten deposits from everyone just yet.

Huh - I saw it on several social media platforms as well. Oops.

[WUPHF]

What the?

They have been Tweeting out the names for a while.

[nescac1]

Why isn't NYU one of the biggest consistent D3 powers?  A huge student population, tons of resources, stellar academic reputation, in a power conference, located in arguably the most desirable part of NYC, extraordinarily popular school, and in one of the nation's premier hoops meccas, no shortage of hoops talent within 80 miles of the schools.  You'd think it would be one of the easiest recruiting sells in all of D3.  If I was to pick one program that wasn't already a consistent winner to take over, that would be the one ...

[WUPHF]

I think NYU is one of two UAA schools that should be consistent basketball powers.

I do not have the full answer, but I do think the temporary closure of the Coles Center definitely hurt.  Those who graduated this season played their entire career off-campus and I believe they are off-campus again next season.  The new building will be great moving forward.

They were a very good team in 5-6 seasons ago and then returned with the youngest group of players ever as recruitment lagged.

NYU has had more than their share of injuries too.

They might turn it around, but for next season, I think they will be competing for last place.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I think the lack of quality scheduling has hurt NYU. When you streak out to an undefeated mark in non-conference play and then get your rear end's handed to you in conference action ... I think smart ball players realize what is really going on - even if the team got ranked in the Top 25 during that non-conference run.'

Too many years the non-conference schedule hasn't been all that and they get exposed in conference play. NYU as a result may have a reputation of not having much of a basketball program and not worth coming to. This was happening BEFORE the Coles Center closed down, though I am sure not having a home has played a role - I don't doubt that at all.

I am just not sure if the men's program stands out for any reason. I would love to see it succeed. I know people at NYU and I want to see them having fun with programs and such ... but I'm just not sure NYU is on the right track with this program.

[WUPHF]

The schedule has to be part of it too.

By the way, NYU has officially announced their next recruiting class.

They add 9 new players including 3 transfer students; one of which has transferred from Division I Marshall though after a cursory review, it does not seem as though he played there.

https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2020/6/3/mens-basketball-announces-2024-recruiting-class.aspx

Yeah, the release is back.

[gordonmann]

When I spoke with their new head coach last summer, I got the sense that recruiting was a challenge.

My understanding is that NYU doesn't offer financial aid -- they don't need to because the demand for admissions is so high -- which means their recruiting pool is restricted to players who can pay full freight to play there.  So now you are looking for players who can succeed academically at NYU, want to live in NYC (not everyone does), afford NYU and play basketball at the level you want.

https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/05/atn-nelson-hassell

The natural question for which I have no answer is, "If the lack of an on-campus home court or the financial aid limitations are such a problem, why doesn't the women's team struggle, too?"

[WUPHF]

There may be some truth to the recruiting issues, but that runs counter to what he said in a podcast last year.

Maybe I mischaracterized what he said, but this is what I wrote at the time.

And, speaking of NYU and recruiting, head coach Dagan Nelson was interviewed on a podcast this week.

He did talk about the recruiting advantages he has at NYU and even suggested that he gets 60-70 e-mails a day from prospects and could field 6 or 7 teams.

This is a good interview and worth the listen if you have any interest.

http://refereerant.com/2019/09/episode-88-the-rant-dagan-nelson/

[Caz Bombers]

Coach Nelson must already draw a lot of water at NYU. They just hired as their new AD the man that hired him last time as AD at New Paltz.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

While I understand Gordon's point ... couldn't that be said about a lot of the schools in the UAA? Most of them are succeeding.

[WUPHF]

NYU finished No. 34 in the Learfield Director's Cup in 2018-2019, so yeah, varsity athletics are strong overall.

[gordonmann]

While I understand Gordon's point ... couldn't that be said about a lot of the schools in the UAA? Most of them are succeeding.

Could be the difference between schools that are need blind and those that are need blind and committed to filling the financial aid needs of the students they admit. Take it for what it's worth but NYU is listed as the former. You can get in, but you may not be able to afford it. Same goes for Brandeis and CMU.

https://www.cappex.com/articles/match-fit/need-blind-admission-colleges

Emory, Rochester and Chicago are in the latter category.

[gordonmann]

And, speaking of NYU and recruiting, head coach Dagan Nelson was interviewed on a podcast this week.

He did talk about the recruiting advantages he has at NYU and even suggested that he gets 60-70 e-mails a day from prospects and could field 6 or 7 teams.

That speaks to volume of recruits, not quality. Would any of those 6 or 7 teams contend for the UAA title?