MBB: University Athletic Association

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deiscanton

Final from Wiegand Gym in Pittsburgh--

Emory 94, Carnegie Mellon 66

Emory improves to 11-4, 4-1 in UAA

Carnegie Mellon drops to 8-6, 1-3 in UAA

4 Emory players scored in double figures, led by Matthew Schner with a game high 25 points, followed by Romin Williams with 20 points, Nick Stuck with 14, and Albert Fallas with 11.

Greg Lawrence grabbed 10 rebounds for Emory

Nick Stuck led Emory with 8 assists

Carnegie Mellon was led by R.J. Holmes with 13 points, followed by Kevin Sax with 10 points.

deiscanton

Halftime from Edwards-Fahey Court at the Wash U Field House in St. Louis--

Wash U 35, Brandeis 30

Leading scorers for Wash U--

Jack Nolan--14 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists

Justin Hardy-- 5 points, 5 rebounds

Leading scorers for Brandeis--

Collin Sawyer-- 12 points

Terrell Brown-- 4 points

2 Brandeis players with 3 rebounds each (Darret Justice, Chandler Jones)

3 Brandeis players with 1 assist each (Collin Sawyer, Sam Nassar, Aedan Using)

Wash U shot 11 of 24 from the field (45.8%), 5 of 8 from 3 pt land (62.5%), and 8 of 11 from the FT line (72.7%)

Brandeis shot 10 of 28 from the field (35.7%), 4 of 14 from 3 pt land (28.6%), and 6 of 7 from the FT line (85.7%)

Wash U outrebounded Brandeis 18-14, 5-4 on the offensive glass

Wash U made 4 assists and committed 6 turnovers-- 3 of which were as a result of Brandeis steals

Brandeis made 3 assists and committed 3 turnovers-- 2 of which were as a result of Wash U steals

Points off turnovers-- Brandeis leads 8-4

Points in the paint-- Brandeis leads 10-8

Second chance points-- Brandeis leads, 3-2

Bench points-- Brandeis leads, 8-7

Chandler Jones picked up 3 fouls in the half for Brandeis-- only Brandeis player in foul trouble.

No Wash U players in foul trouble.

Brandeis blocked 2 shots in the half to Wash U's 1 block.  The second Brandeis block came from Aedan Using at the end of the half.


deiscanton

Final from Horsburgh Gym in Cleveland--

Case Western Reserve 74, Rochester 61

CWRU improves to 13-2, 3-1 in the UAA

Rochester drops to 10-5, 2-3 in the UAA

deiscanton

Halftime at Ratner Center in Chicago--

NYU 34, Chicago 31

Bobby Hawkinson leading NYU with 14 points and 9 rebounds.

Brandon Beckman leading Chicago with 9 points.

deiscanton

#6394
NYU 55, Chicago 52 6:15 left in regulation at Ratner Center in Chicago

Bobby Hawkinson with 16 points, 12 rebounds, and 7 assists to lead NYU-- He needs 4 more points for a 20/10 game.

deiscanton

First 15 minutes of the second half--

Wash U outscoring Brandeis 25-9 in that timeframe.

Not even the Yeshiva Maccabees would have been able to break that Wash U defense today.  If Wash U is locking down Tommy Eastman today, I strongly believe that Ryan Turrell of Yeshiva would have suffered the same fate if he was on the Edwards Fahey Court right now facing that Wash U defense.

deiscanton

#6396
Finals--

Wash U 67, Brandeis 53

Wash U improves to 14-1, 4-0 in the UAA

Brandeis drops to 8-3, 1-1 in the UAA

Leading scorers for Wash U

Jack Nolan with a game high 25 points and 3 assists

Justin Hardy with 12 points and 10 rebounds

Jake Wolf with 7 rebounds

Leading scorers for Brandeis

Collin Sawyer with 17 points

Tommy Eastman with 8 points

Toby Harris with 6 points

Sam Nassar with 5 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists

Darret Justice also had 5 rebounds for Brandeis

I will do a complete blog report on the game later....

Chicago 70, NYU 57

Chicago improves to 6-9, 1-3 in the UAA

NYU drops to 9-5, 0-4 in the UAA

Fantasy team stats-- Bobby Hawkinson finished for NYU at 18 points, 12 rebounds, and 7 assists-- 2 points shy of a 20/10 game.

Brandon Beckman with a game high 19 points to lead Chicago




WUPHF

The parity that I talked about in November and December may well be there, but with the results so far, clearly the UAA race is looking exactly as expected in the preaseason with four teams in contention.

Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way the three loss teams will have a chance.

deiscanton

Quote from: WUPHF on January 23, 2022, 04:51:52 PM
The parity that I talked about in November and December may well be there, but with the results so far, clearly the UAA race is looking exactly as expected in the preaseason with four teams in contention.

Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way the three loss teams will have a chance.

Here are the standings in order of w/l percentage (which is how a UAA champion and AQ is determined, although the only time so far that a UAA champion was crowned in basketball with UAA teams eligible for the title playing different numbers of conference games was in the first full year of the UAA's existence, which was the 1987-88 season.)

1.)  Wash U-- 4-0 UAA (1.000), 14-1 overall
2.)  Emory-- 4-1 UAA (.800), 11-4 overall
3.)  Case Western Reserve-- 3-1 UAA (.750), 13-2 overall
4.)  Brandeis-- 1-1 UAA (.500), 8-3 overall
5.)  Rochester-- 2-3 UAA (.400), 10-5 overall
T-6.) Carnegie Mellon-- 1-3 UAA (.250), 8-6 overall
T-6.)  Chicago-- 1-3 UAA (.250), 6-9 overall
8.)  NYU-- 0-4 UAA (.000), 9-5 overall

deiscanton

Top 5 scorers in UAA play after this weekend of games--

1.)  Jack Nolan, Wash U-- 28.0 PPG
2.)  Matthew Schner, Emory-- 19.6 PPG
3.)  Mitch Prendergast, CWRU-- 19.0 PPG
4.)  Bobby Hawkinson, NYU-- 18.3 PPG (includes NYU at Chicago game)
5.)  R.J. Holmes, Carnegie Mellon-- 17.0 PPG

Top 5 rebounders in UAA play--

1.)  Bobby Hawkinson, NYU-- 11.8 RPG
2.)  R.J. Holmes, Carnegie Mellon-- 10.8 RPG
3.)  Justin Hardy, Wash U-- 7.7 RPG
4.)  Matthew Schner, Emory-- 7.2 RPG
5.)  Cole Frilling, CWRU-- 7.0 RPG

Top 5 "dime droppers" in UAA play--

1.)  Nick Stuck, Emory-- 5.2 APG
2.)  Griffin Kornaker, CWRU-- 5.0 APG
3.)  Josh Berry, Carnegie Mellon-- 4.3 APG
4.)  Hayden Doyle, Wash U-- 4 APG
5.)  Sean Oberman, Carnegie Mellon-- 3.5 APG

deiscanton

More on the final earlier from the Wash U Field House in St. Louis--

Wash U 67, Brandeis 53

Team stats--

Wash U shot 23 of 53 from the field (43.4%), 7 of 17 from 3 point land (41.2%), and 14 of 18 from the FT line (77.8%)

Brandeis shot 19 of 57 from the field (33.3%), 8 of 28 from 3 point land (28.6%), and 7 of 9 from the FT line (77.8%)

Wash U outrebounded Brandeis 40-29, 14-10 off the offensive glass

Wash U made 8 assists and committed 12 turnovers-- 6 of which were as a result of Brandeis steals

Brandeis made 8 assists and committed 9 turnovers-- 4 of which were as a result of Wash U steals

Points off turnovers-- Even at 14 a piece

Points in the paint-- Wash U won that category, 26-16

Second chance points-- Wash U won that category, 18-8

Bench points-- Brandeis won that category, 13-10

Gregory Sager

Quote from: deiscanton on January 23, 2022, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: nescac1 on January 23, 2022, 05:36:15 AM
If he stays healthy the rest of the way Eastman will likely be all conference in three different D3 leagues. Has they ever been done before?

it seems, nescac1, that you posted the same question back on the NESCAC boards when Tommy Eastman announced his transfer to Brandeis.

To be honest, I don't know of any men's college basketball player in any division who made all conference in 3 different college basketball conferences before.  It takes 2 transfers for that scenario to potentially happen, and usually if a player transfers to a D1 team, that player cannot play for a full season after the transfer.

If I understand this correctly, Tommy Eastman graduated from Middlebury. Is that correct? If it is, then it doesn't require two transfers to be named to three different college basketball conference all-conference teams, because Eastman hasn't transferred twice. He transferred once, from Geneseo State to Middlebury. He graduated from Middlebury; he didn't transfer from there. His enrollment as a graduate student at Brandeis is for an entirely different degree than his bachelor's degree, which also means a different set of course requirements, different transcript, different academic standing, etc.

You can't divorce the academic from the athletic, because, on the one hand, Eastman's eligibility is inherently his; it doesn't belong to anybody or anything else, so it therefore is an entity that can't be transferred. On the other hand, Eastman's eligibility status is reliant upon, and therefore reflective of, his enrollment at an institution of higher learning. And, academically speaking, he has transferred once and has graduated-and-rematriculated once, so the same is true of his eligibility status.

This is going to be an increasingly popular path to using up one's athletic eligibility in the Covid era, so I suppose that the term "transfer" will be used colloquially the way that Allen is using it. I'm therefore likely shouting into the whirlwind (and not for the first time, either ;)). But I'm not simply being pedantic in pointing out that it's technically incorrect to say that Eastman transferred twice; I'm pointing it out because, fairly or unfairly, there is a stigma attached to a student-athlete who has transferred twice. The inference -- sometimes spoken, sometimes unspoken -- is that a twice-transferred student-athlete is either a malcontent or a marginal student, or both. (As I said, that's not always a fair inference.) Someone like Eastman should not have to bear that stigma because of a misconception that he transferred twice when he actually didn't -- in fact, the opposite is true, as his current enrollment reflects two academic achievements, receiving a bachelor's degree and matriculation into a graduate program.
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deiscanton

Congratulations to Jack Nolan of Wash U on being named UAA Athlete of the Week in Men's Basketball for the second week in a row.

Wash U January 24 press release: Five Bears Selected as UAA Athletes of the Week

deiscanton

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 24, 2022, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on January 23, 2022, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: nescac1 on January 23, 2022, 05:36:15 AM
If he stays healthy the rest of the way Eastman will likely be all conference in three different D3 leagues. Has they ever been done before?

it seems, nescac1, that you posted the same question back on the NESCAC boards when Tommy Eastman announced his transfer to Brandeis.

To be honest, I don't know of any men's college basketball player in any division who made all conference in 3 different college basketball conferences before.  It takes 2 transfers for that scenario to potentially happen, and usually if a player transfers to a D1 team, that player cannot play for a full season after the transfer.

If I understand this correctly, Tommy Eastman graduated from Middlebury. Is that correct? If it is, then it doesn't require two transfers to be named to three different college basketball conference all-conference teams, because Eastman hasn't transferred twice. He transferred once, from Geneseo State to Middlebury. He graduated from Middlebury; he didn't transfer from there. His enrollment as a graduate student at Brandeis is for an entirely different degree than his bachelor's degree, which also means a different set of course requirements, different transcript, different academic standing, etc.

You can't divorce the academic from the athletic, because, on the one hand, Eastman's eligibility is inherently his; it doesn't belong to anybody or anything else, so it therefore is an entity that can't be transferred. On the other hand, Eastman's eligibility status is reliant upon, and therefore reflective of, his enrollment at an institution of higher learning. And, academically speaking, he has transferred once and has graduated-and-rematriculated once, so the same is true of his eligibility status.

This is going to be an increasingly popular path to using up one's athletic eligibility in the Covid era, so I suppose that the term "transfer" will be used colloquially the way that Allen is using it. I'm therefore likely shouting into the whirlwind (and not for the first time, either ;)). But I'm not simply being pedantic in pointing out that it's technically incorrect to say that Eastman transferred twice; I'm pointing it out because, fairly or unfairly, there is a stigma attached to a student-athlete who has transferred twice. The inference -- sometimes spoken, sometimes unspoken -- is that a twice-transferred student-athlete is either a malcontent or a marginal student, or both. (As I said, that's not always a fair inference.) Someone like Eastman should not have to bear that stigma because of a misconception that he transferred twice when he actually didn't -- in fact, the opposite is true, as his current enrollment reflects two academic achievements, receiving a bachelor's degree and matriculation into a graduate program.

I was using the term "transfer" in the same way that the NCAA uses it-- 1 transfer while an undergrad, and once the person receives a baccalureate degree, the person is a grad transfer for athletic purposes if that person still has at least one more year of NCAA athletic eligibility left and the new institution has a master's degree in a new or existing major that is not available at the original institution.

I don't believe that anyone would question the academic credentials of a grad transfer.