MBB: Skyline Conference

MMTPdthree · November 11, 2008, 03:41:12 PM

I believe the ones "spilling" the information are those from Purchase...

an you are kind of contradicting yourself saying that the info is "off base" - then stating (with confidence i add) that Purchase will win the New Paltz Tourney ... whats really going on over there?

d3hero · November 11, 2008, 05:13:01 PM

what i'm saying is that the team has transformed from a perennial loser into what could possibly be one of the best teams in the conference.

there are several transfers but three in particular who should overwhelm their competition. They have already beat a d2 team in a scrimmage. Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team.

MMTPdthree · November 11, 2008, 08:27:37 PM

no one is saying that purchase is going to be a roll over .... accually they are being complemented on how good they are going to be this year.

I pesonally think that they will finish 2nd in the conference - simply because i dont know how the chemestry is over there. Just because they might have the "more talented" players - doesnt mean they will be the best TEAM. Believe me i would rather have purchase win that farmingdale.

Whose your sleeper team this year?

im calling Mount Saint Vincent

Cyclone0205 · November 12, 2008, 12:53:23 PM

Random Question...

I haven't been on this board in a little bit, but I'm curious as to how people think the Skyline defects from a couple years ago (Stevens, Manhattanville) would fair in the conference.

Manhattanville's last Skyline year they won the conference and the auto berth to the NCAA tournament, where they ran into Ben Strong (arguably the best big in the country that year). Last season they went 17-9 in the Freedom Conference. They were hit hard with graduation however, as their top 3 players from a year ago have all moved on.

Stevens' last year they were 23-7, making it to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tourney. They followed that up last year with another 23 win season (in the Empire 8, which by Massey Ratings is a hardest conference out of E8, Skyline, and Freedom) and an ECAC Metro championship. They return 4 members of the NCAA team and all but 2 from last years ECAC Championship team.

For my money, I think Stevens would probably between 1 or 2, depending on what you think of Farmingdale. Manhattanville was always a tough Skyline team, so I couldn't see them much lower than 4, at worst 5. What do you think?

Raptormania! · November 12, 2008, 02:26:00 PM

"Wheres Bard??? Lol, right where they should be, the bottom of the conference."

And also at the top. All those 0-0 records may have confused you.

"Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team."

This is such an important point. Bard ABSOLUTELY will not beat Purchase by 25 with its reserves. As usual, it will happen with mostly its starters.

d3hero · November 12, 2008, 02:54:17 PM

Raptormania,

If you think that Bard is going to beat Purchase, you've lost the common sense part of your brain.

Not to put your recruiting down, but with your #1 guy being Alvarez, who was the center on a division 2 private school b league team in manhattan last year, i don't think that he's going to match up to well with a division 2 transfer at purchase or any of the other centers in the skyline.

Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup.

MMTPdthree · November 12, 2008, 06:01:34 PM

d3hero ....

did you by any chance forget about Damien Santana???
dont tell me he isnt the best PG in Skyline

d3hero · November 12, 2008, 07:21:25 PM

Santana might have a tiny height advantage but Purchase's new PG is a division one scholarship player who is going to match up evenly with him when he's playing that position.

MMTPdthree · November 12, 2008, 07:45:39 PM

should be exciting then! should be a very interesting year.

whose your surprising team this year?

Raptormania! · November 12, 2008, 08:21:24 PM

"If you think that Bard is going to beat Purchase, you've lost the common sense part of your brain."

I resent the implication that I ever had a common sense part of my brain. But the way I've been able to tell Bard has beaten Purchase in the past is a complicated one.
1. Take the number of assists, divide it by the number of turnovers and multiply it by each team's number of blocked shots over the square root of the total number of offensive fouls.
2. Disregard that number, look up at scoreboard.

I plan to use that same system this season, with the same results.

"Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup."

Justin White's father is a chef. The only thing the Purchase PG (no name, I notice) will be eating for breakfast is can after can of Justin's whoop-ass. And Justin learned how to serve it a la carte, so don't be expecting a side of home fries.

d3hero · November 13, 2008, 11:13:26 AM

justin white?

purchase's backup point guard, also with the same first name, could take him but the new starting pg, as i said, a d1 scholarship player, is going to manhandle him.

btw, i don't know if i mentioned your #1 recruit, Forrest Alvarez, but come on... he's a division 2 independent school league high school center. He's not bad and he's tall but come on. If that's all Bard has coming in, your team is in trouble.

Raptormania! · November 13, 2008, 01:25:34 PM

purchase's backup point guard, also with the same first name, could take him but the new starting pg, as i said, a d1 scholarship player, is going to manhandle him.

I still say that Purchase's lack of names will hurt them. You know the name of Bard players, but not Purchase, it appears.

Here, I'll make it easier for you- fill in the blank.

"Purchase's starting point guard, (INSERT FIRST NAME HERE) (INSERT LAST NAME HERE) will be left utterly helpless by the Sous Chef of Slam, Justin White."

MMTPdthree · November 13, 2008, 01:52:42 PM

anyone want to tell my why we are talking about bard ... dont waste your time talking about how good they are going to be - newsflash ! they will finish in the bottom three this year.

by the way ... heard this infamous PG is from one of the UNC campuses

Raptormania! · November 13, 2008, 03:02:53 PM

newsflash ! they will finish in the bottom three this year.

Not a chance. The conference even has conceded the likely order of finish before the season begins.

http://www.skylineconference.org/sport.asp?path=mbball

zonescantstopme · November 13, 2008, 03:45:41 PM

raptormania i can understand school spirit but your comments about the bard program are more then a little annoying, bottom line bard is a bottom teir team not just in the skyline but in any conference. no offense but isnt bard the school that lost to Cal Tech who lost over 60 straight games and has players on the team who didnt play hs bball??

with that being said who are the top 5 players in the skyline this year in no order, here are my pics....

David Acree
Damien Santana
Alex Kuchar
Gordon from Yeshiva
Shannon from Farmingdale