MBB: Skyline Conference

[BubbaChuck3]

Don't believe the hype folks. Purchase played a team that was successful last year, and they were beaten on their own court.
D3Hero:
You certainly talked a big game, but now you seem to have disappeared now that you realized your boys at Purchase can't bang with the big boys. I'm sure you'll come up with around 18 excuses as to why Purchase lost, one excuse for each shot Jerel Lewis missed. 9-27 from the field? There's a reason why he didnt cut it at the D1 school.
* on another note, "Skylineman" joins the board as D3Hero seemingly disappears. Then Skylineman makes an excuse on Purchase's behalf.. Interesting

[d3hero]

i haven't gone anywhere you crazies.

Purchase, at times, looked like their team from last year against Brooklyn College and still, down 24 starting the 2nd half, brought it to within 2.  They lost it again and BC went back up 12, only to come back down to 3.  Had Purchase made some free throws, they would've taken the game.

As for All American Baptiste...

I saw him do ABSOLUTELY nothing except make a few three point shots.  There are about 100 players in the Empire 8 conference that can do that and if that makes someone All American, that's pretty sad. 

The skyline guy who just came on the board is absolutely right.  There is a 6'8" man who isn't playing for Purchase at the moment and if he was playing, would make the Panthers a different team but that aside, Purchase played their worst game and they probably weren't prepared for it.  They weren't as aggressive as they should have been and their shooting was weak.  The fact that they came back not once but twice shows some character though and I think it will help them move forward in the season.

Let me also add, BUBBACHUCK - To say that Lewis didn't make it at a d1 school b/c he shot 9-27 one night against Brooklyn College is one of the most retarded statements ever made on this board (and i make plenty of them, so i should know).  There were plenty of reasons he didn't get burn but you obviously don't look into that before making a bold accusation like that.  Let me also add that if Lewis "can't make it" at a D1, then nobody in the conference can.  He's the best player in the Skyline, hands down.

BTW, Maritime beat Farmingdale in the Bronx by 12.  St. Joe's is the best team in the conference at this point in time (maybe in the region as well).

ONE MORE THING :

If you really call Brooklyn College "the big boys" then Division 3 basketball in the Atlantic region is not good.  Take the Baruch team with Karis on it and match them up against these guys and you would see a dismantling of the Bridges.

[BubbaChuck3]

D3Hero:
Looking at the box score, Baptiste had 21 points on 6-10 shooting (5-8 from behind the arc, those are the "few" threes he hit). To go along with 8 boards, 2 blocks and 2 assists.
I suppose a player who does all of that for his team should never be considered an All American.
Surely we should nominate Mr. Lewis from Purchase. Lewis had 22 points while taking 17 more shots than Baptiste did, going 0-8 from 3. Mr. Lewis also contributed a whopping 2 assists, clearly an indication of his Division I point guard ability.
As for Purchase being the next great team in the region:
Purchase's collection of NBA lottery picks had 7 assists for the game. Guerin from Brooklyn had 8 assists by himself.
    * In response to your comments.. I was not the one anointing Purchase , you were. You got all excited because Purchase beat New Paltz, a team that was under .500 last year. I was simply enlightening you to the fact that up until yesterday, they had played nobody worth mentioning and yesterday's loss proved that Purchase is not to be considered an upper echelon team in the region (Stockton, Ramapo, Brooklyn, St. Joe's)

[d3hero]

Bubba,

you must really not be bright.  OF COURSE purchase only had 7 assists.  When your team goes 1-18 from the three point line, how are you supposed to get assists?  You can't.  Unless the person who you pass the ball to SCORES, you can't get an assist.  I think you would know that, no?

Most of Purchase's points came off of rebounds, offensive rebounds.  20 offensive boards.  They lead the conference in that stat category btw.  Also, they lead the conference in A to TO ratio (maybe not after yesterday, but they did up to that point). 

[BubbaChuck3]

Having someone capable of hitting a 3 be the person taking the shot would help. Running an offense, that crazy old idea. That might work.
Another crazy thought of mine, is that if someone doesn't take 27 shots, the chances for more assists are abundant. These are just a few of my thoughts.

[Raptormania!]

OF COURSE purchase only had 7 assists.  When your team goes 1-18 from the three point line, how are you supposed to get assists?  You can't.  Unless the person who you pass the ball to SCORES, you can't get an assist.

So Purchase is a great offensive team, and your proof is that Purchase can't get assists because they are a godawful three-point point shooting team?

The Maginot Line was a tremendous defense, because once the Germans went around it to get into France, the country crumbled.

[123456]

Maritime 84, Farmingdale 73

[BklynBasketball]

regardless of all the banter back and forth and the trash talk, Purchase is still a very dangerous team. They are not as good as some will lead you to believe nor as bad as others will. Fact is they have a couple of guys in Lewis and Billups who can erupt and score a ton on you. They we be a force come Skyline Conf. tourney time.

Maritime beating Farmingdale is a big win for the Privateers, thats a win that can have serious implications come conference tourney time. Would love to have seen it, im sure it was a good game. Not many Maritime ppl post here though. Same with Farmingdale.

Old Westbury beats Poly, things are tough in Polytech land these days. Theyre in every game but havent won one yet. Young teams tend to do that. On the other hand, Lester Prosper is the best big in the conference, and one of the best in the region.

MSV has put up about 400 points in their last 4 games, and they are 2-0 in the conference, when is the last time they did that? I would love to know. They are a dangerous shooting team.

Mt St Marys, theyve got some athletic guys and a couple of shooters, they will get some wins im sure, always a dangerous team come late winter.

[BklynBasketball]

Right now if you ask me in the metro area, leaving the NJ teams out of the discussion, Brooklyn is the top team. They have to be. St Joe's LI is up there too, they are in my opinion the cream of the crop in the Skyline.

[d3hero]

as i said,

if Brooklyn College is considered the best team in the atlantic region than the state of division three basketball is at an all time low.

Regardless, St. Joe's is a better team than Brooklyn and even though they lost, I actually still believe that Purchase is too. 

[BubbaChuck3]

D3Hero:

You are delusional.

[raptor31]

Purchase has great talent but very obviously hasn't been together long. In the one game I saw it didn't seem like their big 3 played off each other very well. Lewis is a tough combo guard but I wouldn't call him a point d3hero. He is a lot of their problems even though he is talented and can score the rock. He doesn't really drive to create for others and takes a LOT of BAD shots. PGs need to be great decision makers and he is more of a straight gunner and dangerous scorer. At Bard in a 33 pt effort he took a lot of shots as well. Every time he took an in rythm jump shot he wasn't missing. The problem is for every one of those he takes a bad pull up or contested 3. If they can get him to get his shot selection under control and use his penetration ability to create for teammates that would help PC out a lot. He had 0 assists in that game and when your PG isn't sharing the ball it creates issues. I have no problem with points shooting a lot but they can't be bad shots! PC might be better off putting the ball in the kid Walters hands more and let Lewis play off the ball. I don't know their team well but having Lewis play point seemed to be the same problem Philly had with AI at the point and the issues of every Stephon Marbury team.

For anyone who is realistic about D3 basketball Purchase is obviously not an NCAA tourney team. They have the talent (and with a supposed 6'8 big with guard skills they REALLY have talent... is this going to be Leon Smith??? I wondered what happened to him) and if their staff can put that talent together in a way where they will play good basketball and share the ball then they could play with SJ and Farm a little but until then they won't. We will wait and see.

[raptor31]

Tough game for Bard against the best team in the Skyline tomorrow. Could get ugly... what are the other matchups this week?

[MMTPdthree]

St. Joes VS MSV

didnt think at the start of the year this would be a good matchup.  But both are 2-0 in the conference.  MSV has played hard against everyone, and is showing a high-power offence thus far.  but im not sure if the St. Joes Defence will be too much for them.
we shall see....

im picking St. Joes 107-101

[BklynBasketball]

I agree, MSV has been scoring alot and has swept this weeks Skyline individual awards
http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=2565
But SJC LI has alot of weapons in Niblock Acree and Walsh who has been lighting it up this year.
Should be a good game though.

MSMC @ Poly could be a good game as well, neither has a win in the conference yet, however MSMC lost to MAritime by 2, then got handled by MSV. Poly has been in every game theyve played thus far, and are hungry for their first win as well. Could be an interesting game.

Decent night for Skyline fans.