MBB: Skyline Conference

[Raptormania!]

Raptor31, your consistent use of "facts" and "actually watching games" only confuses the issues. Please revert to baseless speculation and character assassination, or else I fear D3Hero will not have any way of responding.

[d3hero]

you're right that i wasn't at the game up at Bard and i was a) told that there wasn't much time alloted to warm up and b) told that purchase won by 17 (which is not very far off from 15).  You did just prove my statement true about the warmup time by saying there was a girls game before (which Purchase killed in) and the fact that i misquoted the score by a 2 point deficit without seeing a box score isn't something that offensive.

The fact of the matter that you guys LOVE your Justin White is absolutely fine, absolutely.  He's your best player and you worship the ground he walks on.  However, the truth remains that he was abused last night and cannot keep up with Purchase's Lewis.

As for your concession that Bard isn't as athletic as Purchase, I agree.  The only thing Bard might have over Purchase is a more fiber friendly cafeteria diet.

As for your "constantly improving" Forest Alvarez, I coached against Forest in high school last year and he was a good player in a a small private school league. He might be doing better now but him fouling out of the game didn't effect the outcome. 

And a hint to you: Bard's roster might be decimated by injury but don't you think that perhaps a handful of other Skyline teams are missing guys, too?

The last thing to address is Purchase compared to St. Joe's & Farmingdale.  We'll see.  After the next semester starts, we will see again.

As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me.  I'm here supporting Purchase, a 5-0 team that has never won 5 games in its history until this year.  When you have something to brag about, flaunt it baby, flaunt it.

[d3hero]

One more thing...

Why does the losing team always have, "more heart and desire" than the more "athletic and talented" team?  Doesn't that always seem to be the case in the opinion of the losers?

I never quite understood that point and it still doesn't make any sense to me.  It would seem to me that the losing team always claims to have the heart because they don't have the win.  That makes more sense, no?

[Raptormania!]

However, the truth remains that he was abused last night and cannot keep up with Purchase's Lewis.

You really don't know what a zone defense is, do you?

As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me.

Until you see a game you give your opinion about, why exactly should your opinion carry any validity?

[raptor31]

Do you consistently state things without having any logic behind your opinions. Probably why you are coaching at a small private school in the city.

First of all Bard had more heart and desire because they were playing against a team that was at least 30 points better than the the Bard team on the floor last night and they outhustled and outworked Purchase in ever facet of the game. This is why it remained a game until 3 min left! Purchase was bigger and more athletic yet got outrebounded because they play lax last night.

Secondly, I will say this again, BOTH TEAMS PLAYED ZONE. You have no clue about this game if you think one player can kill another player when both teams are playing zone. No disrespect to Lewis but he killed the Bard zone not Justin White.

Third, Forest fouling out absolutely effected the outcome, you coaching against him in high school gives you no insight as to what his effect on the game last night was. Forest played tough and gave your boy Billups problems at the bottom of the zone. When he was gone no one on the bottom of the zone could keep up with his quickness.

Fourth, other Skyline teams might have injuries but PURCHASE DIDNT so your point makes no sense in the context that I was comparing a healthy Bard team to this Purchase team.

Fifth, my sophomore year Purchase had a team better than this one and they had 10+ wins that year, the year before, and the year after so your 5 win "fact" isn't exactly accurate. Purchase was terrible the last 3 years but actually competed and did well at the level they were at before.

Sixth, complaining about warmup time is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. In D3 games men's games are after women's all the time and 20 min warmup time is standard. Oh yeah, both teams had the same amount of time to warmup.

Seventh, there wasn't one paragraph you wrote that made any sense or had any bases in fact.

And by the way I will "worship the ground" J White walks on all day and all night. When you are that TOUGH it just happens. Some of us only score 1,100 pts in college can't make sense on a message board so I understand you not liking J very much. Don't be mad cause he would bust your ass, it has happened to a few others.

[Raptormania!]

Unfortunately, Raptor31, it is inaccurate to say you have destroyed D3Hero, nor have I. This is because we are playing a zone.

[all day quads]

F the haters....all i gotta say is someone better put hand up on YONAH "the Maccabi Assassain" GREENSTEIN!!!!! the kid is the BEST shooter in the Sky Line Conference.  The Bard freshmen has hit 5 3's in the last 2 games and with the increase in playing time the Maccabi Assassain's numbers should only improve.

[BklynBasketball]

BEST SHOOTER?

C'mon, he is a good shooter and a nice piece for Bard. I like him as a player for them. Best shooter in the conference has to be Joe Cooke right now for MSV

Stats:

3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 1.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   3FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
1.Afum, Kris-OW............ JR  5     5     8  .625
2.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR  6    24    42  .571
3.Harrington, Tyriq-PC..... SO  5     5     9  .556
4.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR  4     9    17  .529
5.Polett, David-BC......... JR  7    14    30  .467
6.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR  7    15    33  .455
   Reese, Bill-OW........... JR  4     5    11  .455
8.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR  5    14    31  .452
9.Houde, Mike-SJC.......... SR  4     4     9  .444
10.Jackson, Davon-FSC....... SR  5     6    14  .429
   Cunningham, Matt-MSMC.... SR  5     6    14  .429


3-POINT FG MADE
## Player-Team               Cl  G  3FG  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR  6   24   4.00
2.Charney, Chad-PC......... SR  5   15   3.00
   Acree, David-SJC......... SR  4   12   3.00
4.Ohri, Arjun-POLY......... SO  7   20   2.86
5.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR  5   14   2.80
6.George, Hakiem-OW........ JR  5   13   2.60
7.Josey, Kevin-MTIME....... JR  4   10   2.50
8.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR  4    9   2.25
9.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR  7   15   2.14
10.Polett, David-BC......... JR  7   14   2.00
   DiMaggio, Nick-CMSV...... JR  5   10   2.00

[BklynBasketball]

St Joe's vs St Joe's tonight.

Again, anyone who doesn't think St Joe's Brooklyn deserves to be an NCAA Skyline team is crazy. SJC LI is considered by many to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the skyline, and they went into the half holding a 1 point lead. This was a game where LI did lead the entire game, with SJC Brooklyn tying it up 3 times, so SJC LI  handled business. But this was no easy game it seems. Until about the 9 minute mark left in the game it was a 2-3 possession game. At this point a team like SJC LI just has the depth and muscle to wear down their opponents and they pulled away en route to a 20+ point victory, SJC LI gets all the credit they deserve and their stars did what they were supposed to do.
SJC BKLYN however doesn't get credit sometimes, and I think its warranted here. There are no moral victories but they are a team who is almost always smaller and almost never as deep, as their opponents. This is the 2nd Skyline team they gave a great run to in the past couple of weeks. They are a tough team who could definitely pull an upset or 2 in the region. Kudos to the Bears and to their coach as well, as he deserves some credit as well.

The battle of the St Joe's is pretty cool, wonder why they don't play it annually?

[CityD3]

The battle of st joe's did seem like it went as expected with LI winning by 20, but bkbasketball is right. this was in no way an easy win for LI. Bears of Bk opened up hot and led for pretty much the whole first half. LI was fortunate to be up one at halftime as BK had a horrible last two minutes in the first half when a couple wide open missed layups by BK and some falling asleep on defense resulted in them losing a 4 point lead very quickly . In the second half, LI ran away with it because BK is simply outconditioned. They totally ran out of gas. JJ Walsh had another great outing with 24 points and 8 rebounds while playing most of the game in foul trouble. Acree didnt shoot the ball too great, but just outran the whole BK defense for a couple uncontested fast break layups in the 2nd half that put the game away. he finished with 17 and niblock quietly had a monster game with 13 and 19. as for BK, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they have the most underrated backcourt in the area. Gist and Maddox are small but they both can play on my team. they dominated the first half which even led LI to play a triangle-and-2 on them for a couple possessions. second half was a different story as everyone on the team seemed tired. st joe's bk and their coach do deserve some credit, but again they gotta win one of these games. They have come close in years past andd seem to always fall short. They are gettin there, but they aint ready just yet.

PS: very good size crowd and a good atmosphere for DIII game-they should make it an annual thing bklynbasketball. after the mini-scare in the first half, im not sure if coach mateyko would want that.

[d3hero]

You Bard folks are ABSOLUTELY wacked out of your minds but i enjoy telling you how i think your team is awful and how the team i'm for is fantastic.

I also enjoy your squabbles and teaming up against me - that's also great.

Also, Justin White would not "bust my ass" if i played against him and Jerrell Lewis DID destroy him and your team's zone.  I say this because he is the point guard and Jerrell is the point guard thus, with Jerrell outperforming White, he in my opinion, was better.

For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College. 

As for everything else you wrote, good for you.  I hope you get your ENTIRE team back because even with everyone healthy and in great shape, they're still only going to have a chance against ....... (nobody) this year.

[skylineman]

Well actually purchase doesn't have their full roster, if purchase had every player they were supposed too you'd see their 6'8 big man with a jump shot, smooth touch and guard skills dominating the league. But for reasons beyond me, he is ineligible. Purchase with that team would have been unstoppable.

[CityD3]

For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College. 

How'd that prediction work out for your "powerhouse" panthers??? first baruch puttin a scare into farmingdale and now brooklyn taking down the "tournament ready" purchase team. shift in power in the region maybe??

[Cyclone0205]

We can officially stop the Purchase Bandwagon for a while.  First good team they play all year and they lose at home. 


Is this team going to be in the running and have a shot in the Skyline Tourney?  Yes, they can score and do have a lot of talent.  That alone means on any given night you can win.


Will they win?  No.  They play NO defense and rely too much on Lewis especially, and mostly one on one basketball.  If he has god awful shooting days (like today), they will lose.  When you score 81 and your team has 7 assists TOTAL, that is a very bad sign.


If this team somehow wins Skyline and makes NCAA's?  One and done, unless the God's give them a severely favorable matchup.

[Raptormania!]

Again, anyone who doesn't think St Joe's Brooklyn deserves to be an NCAA Skyline team is crazy.

Totally agree. Think this is a matter of when, not if. I miss those road trips.

For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.

I assume Purchase beat Brooklyn College in the same parallel universe where they beat an undermanned Bard team by 40.