MBB: Skyline Conference

Rhodes Scholar · February 10, 2008, 10:10:43 AM

Scores from 2/9

Bard 90, Purchase 68
Farmingdale 81, Maritime 55
MSM 80, MSV 73
OW 83, Poly 67

Skyline Standings

Farmingdale 13-1
St. Joe's 11-2
OW 11-3
MSM 8-5
Maritime 6-7
Yeshiva 6-7
MSV 5-9
Bard 4-10
Poly 2-12
Purchase 2-12

Pryme0bjective · February 11, 2008, 12:56:36 PM

Looks like farmingdale has hit there stride. i saw the maritime game it wasn't there best but they still won by 25. i don't see anyone else stopping santana, shannon, and lipka.

BklynBasketball · February 11, 2008, 02:23:30 PM

i have seen poly play a couple of times and i have to say i am surprised they havent done very well. They have some good bigs, good guards and a couple of real shooters. Seems like they have a problem digging in on the Defensive end though and stopping someone. I have to say they are a talented team, but they need to make a committment to "D" if theyre going anywhere in the skyline in the near future.

NYBB · February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM

Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.

BklynBasketball · February 11, 2008, 04:21:13 PM

Quote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.

first year coach taking over a dismal program who has never won anything and had what 1 win last year? Brought in some really good players and has a track record of making programs better?

(ccny - Kingsborough - D2 Dowling)

I think blaming coaching in year 1 of a complete program/mentality overhaul at a school like poly is a little ridiculous. With nothing but freshman it is tough to battle bards and purchases (youll have your chance for them next year right??)
let alone farmingdales and westbury's.

You seem to have some very strong opinions and know alot about d3 basketball and personnel for a high school senior.

I think you jumped the gun with your assessment on this one though kiddo.

Rhodes Scholar · February 11, 2008, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Pryme0bjective on February 11, 2008, 12:56:36 PM
Looks like farmingdale has hit there stride. i saw the maritime game it wasn't there best but they still won by 25. i don't see anyone else stopping santana, shannon, and lipka.

Farmingdale is playing very well right now. No doubt the Rams are the team to beat. It looks like the only two teams with any chance to stop them are St. Joe's and Old Westbury.

Quote from: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
Quote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.

first year coach taking over a dismal program who has never won anything and had what 1 win last year? Brought in some really good players and has a track record of making programs better?

(ccny - Kingsborough - D2 Dowling)

I think blaming coaching in year 1 of a complete program/mentality overhaul at a school like poly is a little ridiculous. With nothing but freshman it is tough to battle bards and purchases (youll have your chance for them next year right??)
let alone farmingdales and westbury's.

You seem to have some very strong opinions and know alot about d3 basketball and personnel for a high school senior.

I think you jumped the gun with your assessment on this one though kiddo.

I wouldn't blame Nigro because it's his first year and he has a very young team. He did bring in a fair amount of young talent. This team is certainly better than the Poly teams I saw years ago. Anyway, you know you've taken over a pretty weak program when the coach needs a couple of years to be competitive with Albany Pharmacy, Bard and Purchase.

NYBB · February 11, 2008, 11:08:36 PM

All i know is a lot of my friends graduated from Poly and never liked the school or the athletic program there. The coaches come and go every year and the school has absolutely no consistent administration.

the last thing i heard about Polytech is that the whole school is being engulfed by NYU sooo...

Also, Purchase had their coach replaced mid season and they're not looking very good at all. A loss to them is silly.

I have no doubt that what you're saying about the Poly coach is correct and i'm sure they will have a good program in the future but let's wait and see : most of the guys on Poly teams in the past have failed off/out and the coaches (not just hoops) have left for other schools. that's all i'm saying. also, if i'm at SUNY next year, make sure to come and say "hello"!

BklynBasketball · February 12, 2008, 08:13:29 AM

Quote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
All i know is a lot of my friends graduated from Poly and never liked the school or the athletic program there. The coaches come and go every year and the school has absolutely no consistent administration.

the last thing i heard about Polytech is that the whole school is being engulfed by NYU sooo...

Also, Purchase had their coach replaced mid season and they're not looking very good at all. A loss to them is silly.

I have no doubt that what you're saying about the Poly coach is correct and i'm sure they will have a good program in the future but let's wait and see : most of the guys on Poly teams in the past have failed off/out and the coaches (not just hoops) have left for other schools. that's all i'm saying. also, if i'm at SUNY next year, make sure to come and say "hello"!

The coach before Dan Nigro was there for about 20 years, so that point you m ade is invalid.

Next, players have never been known to fail off at Poly, I have a few friends who played there and while they always stunk, their players were always dedicated students who did well in all their classes.

Losing to Purchase was definitely not a good look, but, Purchase does havesome decent talent, and thats why we play the games, because on any given night any team can beat any team.

The NYU subject is up in the air, however it seems doubtful to me seeing as how they just recently built that gym, and completed the NCAA process, entered a conference, only to sell the school to NYU? seems odd to me.

NYBB where do you play right now?

Danny Weismuller · February 12, 2008, 11:31:20 AM

I agree with BKYLN bball....

I don't think most kids fail off in that school.
Also You have to give the coach some credit as Poly was traditional terrible for years... At least it looks like they have some reasons to be optimistic since they have some nice young talent.

BK...
what's going on? any talks of getting the bears in the skyline.
They could def compete in any of the local conferences.

mountpridemsv · February 12, 2008, 03:03:06 PM

Hey good call. You're right on point with comment about bears(BK). St Joes Brooklyn could surely contend in skyline. Especially with added exposure they would get by being in skyline. They already have a top notch coach. he would get some great recruits to complement what he's already built. no doubt. believe it or not. both MSV JV and Berkley College team would put up a hell of a fight in skyline too. As Ive said in past, my bro goes to MSV. Has Friends on JV. Ive seen all three teams play. gotta give credit where its due. Top three teams in HVMAC could all compete elswhere!

NYBB · February 12, 2008, 03:17:01 PM

I am not in HS, i actually coach a HS team. As for St. Joe's BK, they should be in the Skyline conference but is the conference accepting new teams? It would seem to me that with the four additions (Purchase, Poly, Rus Sage, Bard), they wouldn't be looking to add new squads.

i think it's great that St. Joe's plays in that small conference with Berkeley, MSV's JV, Sarah Lawrence, etc. but they do belong in an official D3.

Also, I was not talking about Poly Hoops as much as i was talking about their baseball team and other programs where I KNOW for a fact that players have failed off. Also, Purchase has talent? they have 2 good basketball players and an extremely strong big man. Outside of that, hmmmm.

Rhodes Scholar · February 12, 2008, 08:33:48 PM

Quote from: mountpridemsv on February 12, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
believe it or not. both MSV JV and Berkley College team would put up a hell of a fight in skyline too. Top three teams in HVMAC could all compete elswhere!

Berkeley College is 0-3 vs. Skyline teams this year. They lost to St. Joe's 89-45, MSM 88-46, and Yeshiva 71-40. Recently they lost to Montclair State 97-28. It looks like they're not quite ready for prime time.

NYBB · February 12, 2008, 10:45:59 PM

No, that team is not but i think it's GREAT that they have a team and i support organized basketball in colleges as much as possible; the fact that Berkeley, Sarah Lawrence, etc. have teams is great!

Rhodes Scholar · February 13, 2008, 08:41:24 AM

I agree with you 100%. I believe that all the small colleges should have varsity programs while emphasizing the importance of academics at the same time.

Rhodes Scholar · February 13, 2008, 09:01:23 AM

I didn't see this one but Farmingdale State beat NYC Tech, 104-59, last night in Brooklyn. It was the Rams' 13th consecutive victory, the longest in school history. I'm not surprised that Farmingdale won, but the margin of victory is far more than I expected. I wonder how long City Tech's starters played. Their focus has to be on Saturday's game at Brooklyn.