Eastern Collegiate Football Conference

[pg04]

Nevertheless, Mount Ida probably would beat Hartwick this year (just so my last point isn't presumed to state otherwise)

[fulbakdad]

That was to Yanks, he's got Hartwick listed on his profile.....

[lewdogg11]

I'm pretty sure Hartwick's history is enough of a roller coaster ride that their results don't hold a ton of water with anyone on these boards, including Yanks.  When they are good, they are really good.  When they are bad, they are really bad.  But typically, which is what this discussion is about, the playoff representative from the E8 and LL are not playoff doormats.(excluding St. Lawrence 2010 which should have never happened and likely will never again)  The same can not be said for the ECFC and other than a few Curry teams, the NEFC.

[pg04]

That was to Yanks, he's got Hartwick listed on his profile.....

OK, but you posted that on a board that everyone can see and thus everyone can respond.

[Jonny Utah]

I've seen Mt. Ida play this year, and will throw in my two cents.

The quarterback is a solid player, tough with good size and he makes smart decisions.  He is a senior from the Buffalo area actually and I've been pretty impressed with him.

The running back from last year is gone, but they run an offense similar to Ithaca with a little more shotgun (motion a fullback/blocking H back and run off tackle a lot).  They like to run the ball to two different backs, and throw a lot of playaction off those runs.

The Wrs are good athletes, and they get open if the line gives the QB time.

The lines on both sides of the ball are stocky kids, and look like they could wear down if pushed with a no huddle offense or a bigger team.  They aren't small I don't think, but don't look like the most athletic bunch, especially the offensive line.  They do a solid job all around though.

The linebackers and dbacks are tough, and are pretty well coached.  Decent speed, but I doubt they have the depth to contend with a Hobart or Cortland in the first round if they are paired up with those teams.

The most impressive player on Mt. Ida (and my favorite) is the kicker, and I have a great story about him.  Mt. Ida plays in a small campus stadium, and fans can watch right behind the enzone, literally 5 yards from the backline where there is a see-thru net for fieldgoals and a small fence.  In the Anna Maria game, a bunch of Anna Maria kids were there drinking and heckling the Mt. Ida kids and refs.  Right after Halftime, the Mt. Ida kicker is practicing his deep kickoffs and misses a deep FG and runs up to pick up the ball.  One of the Anna Maria fans yells out "nice miss there #2, good thing you practice missing FGs you punk".  So the kicker (who was pretty jacked) runs right up to the kid and says "I'll jump right over that fence and beat your ****ing head into a pulp you little piece of ****".  The anna maria kid just stares at him and says nothing and the Mt. Ida kicker keeps giving it to him and challanges him to any sort of physical contest of the Anna Maria kids choosing, but the Anna Maria kid simply embarrasses himself infront of this friends and girlfriend.  It was fantastic and made me choose Mt. Ida as my 2nd favorite d3 team behind Ithaca.

[fulbakdad]

I think you're missing my point.

He came on here just to say, "you suck".

Not sure why, but I don't get it.  If you want to say how good your team is, or how good your league is, no problem.  But just to come on and say you suck is riduculous.  And then to defend him???

There are a lot of different leagues in D3.  And everyone knows some are more dominant than others.  I can see the discussions about arguing how dominant or non dominant go on.  But to just come on to say, "you suck" doesn't make sense to me.

I've even posted against some posters that have posted how good thier teams are.  Notably in the NESCAC arena.  But I don't see what is to gain to go on and say "You suck".

I've been watching a team in the MWC for the past 3 years because that's where my son ended up.  They were the doormat for quite a while.  Now they are 8-0 in conference.  But again, I wouldn't go on and say that to the lower teams this year, cuz it's pointless.

The hero post is cuz it's just too easy to post stuff like that when you are hiding behind an profile name.  I saw the same crap on high school boards before I got here.  It's probably why the number of posters are going down and the boards are getting quieter, my personal observation nothing scientific.  Because who wants to come on and post for their team only to get board bashed by somebody that claims to be all knowing?

Just my thoughts.

[fulbakdad]

Jonny,

they just became my 3rd favorite D3 team, behind Lake Forest and Salve.

[lewdogg11]

I think you're missing my point.

He came on here just to say, "you suck".

Not sure why, but I don't get it.  If you want to say how good your team is, or how good your league is, no problem.  But just to come on and say you suck is riduculous.  And then to defend him???

There are a lot of different leagues in D3.  And everyone knows some are more dominant than others.  I can see the discussions about arguing how dominant or non dominant go on.  But to just come on to say, "you suck" doesn't make sense to me.

I've even posted against some posters that have posted how good thier teams are.  Notably in the NESCAC arena.  But I don't see what is to gain to go on and say "You suck".

I've been watching a team in the MWC for the past 3 years because that's where my son ended up.  They were the doormat for quite a while.  Now they are 8-0 in conference.  But again, I wouldn't go on and say that to the lower teams this year, cuz it's pointless.

The hero post is cuz it's just too easy to post stuff like that when you are hiding behind an profile name.  I saw the same crap on high school boards before I got here.  It's probably why the number of posters are going down and the boards are getting quieter, my personal observation nothing scientific.  Because who wants to come on and post for their team only to get board bashed by somebody that claims to be all knowing?

Just my thoughts.

Personally, I think the issue here is that there is animosity that the ECFC was formed and are now taking a spot in the playoffs.  No one cared about Anna Maria, Mt. Ida, Husson, etc before this league was formed and they got an AQ.  The NEFC has been pretty easy to bash for years, but they are improving and people are recognizing that even if just a little, and when the ECFC was formed, it made the NEFC look like the AFC East.  Now even worse, there will be another spot or 2 taken away in the next few years by teams who just don't deserve to be in the NCAA playoffs.  The AQs were a great idea until they began getting taken advantage of.  Now each year there are at least 7-8 teams that stay home but would absolutely demolish one of these AQs.

And dude, relax.  No one is taking personal shots at specific players here.  We're just saying their teams would likely lose to Lawrence Academy.

[pg04]

There are a lot of different leagues in D3.  And everyone knows some are more dominant than others.  I can see the discussions about arguing how dominant or non dominant go on..

But this is exactly the crux of where the issues that everyone seems to have with you begin. You apparently didn't know this at the midpoint of the season when you were so vigorous of your defense of Salve, despite the fact that NEFC has mostly been a doormat in the playoffs (outside of one year).

[Pat Coleman]

The hero post is cuz it's just too easy to post stuff like that when you are hiding behind an profile name. 

You keep saying this to pg04 but his email address is on his profile and it's pretty clear from that who he is.

This is not a high school board. Not sure you've ever quite figured that out. We require a valid email address to register to post and we require that it be posted on your profile. We differentiated ourselves from the high school boards of the world right off the bat and that is why it's not all rah-rah crap.

[fisheralum91]

The hero post is cuz it's just too easy to post stuff like that when you are hiding behind an profile name. 

You keep saying this to pg04 but his email address is on his profile and it's pretty clear from that who he is.

This is not a high school board. Not sure you've ever quite figured that out. We require a valid email address to register to post and we require that it be posted on your profile. We differentiated ourselves from the high school boards of the world right off the bat and that is why it's not all rah-rah crap.

*golf clap*

[pg04]

And if anyone wants to skim through my absurdly large number of posts I'm sure they could find out all they need to know about me in regards to my connection to D3  .

[pg04]

Finally (although I feel as if I've posted too much already about this), this board isn't always "nice" in the sense that we'll give out trophies to every team that has a good record just because they have a good record. Earlier in the year, Fisher was undefeated and I was pretty down on them on here and they are undeniably the best overall team from the East over the last 7 years. No team is immune from being analyzed "negatively." I'm not sure if I ever said Salve or Mount Ida out and out "sucks" but pardon me for not believing they are a legitimate threat to good teams in the East and definitely not nationally.

[fulbakdad]

My last post on this...

It wasn't Pg that I first posted about.  It was Yanks.  When he came on and asked why there weren't any Ida fans on here talking about how they're going to get the doors blown off.  That was the post I was talking about, and the poster I guess....


Anyways, Bash on!

lol

[Yanks 99]

Fulbakdad,

I think you are seriously missing the whole point of the original post...

First...it wasn't simply a "you suck" post.  I took a look at the discussion board...saw that there hasn't been a post since the 22nd of September.  I write a tongue and cheek post...and within 48 hours there are 25 new posts to the board.  Cool...now at least there is SOME discussion regarding the ECFC...and there should be...they are getting an AQ to the tournament.

Second...I am confused...you go on a rant about what an atrocity it is that there are NESCAC schools getting votes in an essentially meaningless Top 25 poll, yet I take a slight dig at the ECFC and it is the end of the world?  Weak...

Third...how am I hiding behind a profile name?  Because my full name isn't my official screen name?  Several people on here know me personally...others know my name just based on conversations I have had with them.  My info has never changed...not my screen name, and not my email address (which you can clearly find on my profile).  I assume your parents must have really disliked you at birth to give you a name like "fulbakdad".  How could they have even known you were going to be the dad of a fullback!  I would have gone with "McLovin"...especially if you were born in Hawaii.

Final point...again, you are missing the whole point of the original post.  I not pointing to a specific player, or even a team (in this case Mount Ida)...and saying "you guys suck".  What I have said in the past though, and I still stand behind today, is that I really dislike how the ECFC in particular was formed, and how they get a AQ bid for their conference "champion", while I watch teams in other tough leagues get left out of the tournament with only one loss on the year.  While you may not pay as much attention to it..."regular" East Region fans watch a team like Norwich leave the E8...after a stellar five year record of 4-26 against E8 competition...and go to the ECFC where they immediately have a 3 year conference record of 18-2...and will probably finish this year at 5-2...which would give them a four year conference record of 23-4.  I mean really?  Do you really think they just all of a sudden just got "good"?

I said this to Endicott posters last year when they were pissed about being left out on Selections Sunday...everyone wants these conferences (the NEFC, the ECFC, and the MASCAC when they come on board) to get better...a LOT better...and get better quickly.  Having the bottom feeders of established conferences run off to form their own conferences and then subsequently "steal" another tournament slot from a more deserving team is crazy...and now it has happened twice in the past five years in the "East" region (the ECFC and the MASCAC).