Eastern Collegiate Football Conference

[NED3Guy]

Is this Husson team the best ECFC team ever?

Who else would be in the mix?

The undefeated SUNY team that got a pool B bid back in 2010?
The undefeated Gallaudet squad in 2013?
Others??

[AUPepBand]

Is this Husson team the best ECFC team ever?

Who else would be in the mix?

The undefeated SUNY team that got a pool B bid back in 2010?
The undefeated Gallaudet squad in 2013?
Others??

That SUNY Maritime team was fueled on emotion and that carried the team through its regular schedule. Alfred popped that balloon in the NCAA first round. Pep won't go into the details. It wasn't pretty.

Suggesting here that were the 2010 Saxons and the current Saxons on the same level (and Pep is not sure whether this year's Alfred squad is that good...time will tell), that 2010 SUNY Maritime team would not beat the 2016 Husson Eagles.

Just Pep's two cents....for what it's worth.

[d3fan142511]

Great Question about the Best ECFC Team ever:

Here are the ECFC Champs Below

2009- Norwich 8-3 6-0 ECFC...Beat Mount Ida in Conference Championship- NO NCAA 0-3 OOC (WNE, SLU, Hartwick)- First year over from Empire 8..For most part Dominated the conference

2010- SUNY Maritime 10-1 7-0 ECFC....Lost to Alfred in NCAA Round 1 60-0....3-0 OOC (Mass Maritime, West Conn, Merchant Marine)... Two Close Conference games...1 which they won on a game winning Touchdown over Mount Ida with 25 seconds left (Ida would have won conference if they won that game)

2011- Norwich 7-4 7-0 ECFC......Lost to Del Vall in NCAA Round 1 62-10.....0-3 OOC (WNE, SLU, Hartwick)...2 close games in conference...Rest of games blowouts

2012- Mount Ida 8-3 6-1 ECFC....Lost to Wesley 73-14 in NCAA Round 1.....2-1 OOC (Beat Mass-Dart, Plymouth..Lost Springfield - up 14 in 4th Quarter)....Lost conference game to Gallaudet...Averaged close to 40ppg in conference play

2013- Gallaudet 9-2 6-1 ECFC.....Lost to Hobart 34-7 in NCAA Round 1....3-0 OOC (Shenandoah, Apprentice, Rochester)....Lost to SUNY in conference and played 4 1 score games in conference in where they won...Played tough vs Hobart

2014- Husson 8-2 7-0 ECFC.....Lost to MIT 27-20 OT in NCAA Round 1....1-1 OOC (W-Astate, L-Alfred)...Had the game won vs MIT but penalty on coach set MIT up to tie game to force OT....1 conference game that was 1 score.

2015- Norwich 6-5 6-1 ECFC.....Lost to Albright 49-0 in NCAA Round 1......0-3 OOC (RPI, SLU, WPI)...Lost to Castleton last game of year before NCAA

With that being said here is how i would rank the ECFC Champs to date:
1. SUNY -2010
2. Husson- 2014
3. Norwich- 2009
4. Mount Ida- 2012
5. Gallaudet- 2013
6. Norwich- 2011
7. Norwich- 2015

IMO i think this Husson team will be the best out of all of them if they finish year 9-1.

Thoughts?

[H.C.Mosely1895]

I think people writing off Norwich are doing so at their own peril. I think the Cadets jumped the gun a bit on some of their young talent and struggled in integrating them into the offense at the beginning of the season. However, they seem to have re-found their identity and it's still a team that returns many pieces from last year's team that defeated Husson. Do I think the Eagles are currently the clear favorite? Yes. Am I comfortable in saying that they won't be challenged the rest of the way and that playing the games is merely a formality in crowning them champion? Absolutely not.

Point being, if Husson runs the table the rest of the way then I think they'll probably be entitled to being called the best ECFC team ever. I just don't think that happening is an absolute certainty.

[NED3Guy]

Crazy to look back and see 5 different teams earning the 6 AQ's that this conference has been awarded.

Great summary by d3fan. Well done. Thanks for putting in the time.

Mosely- I agree that this Norwich team has the tools to make things interesting. I take their entire body of work in non-league play with a grain of salt, and as d3fan's post shows, NU as lost all the OOC games and still been the ECFC champ. What I can't overlook, however is the Mt Ida game....specifically the offensive struggles that day, coming off of a bye week.

Gallaudet heading to Northfield this weekend, and while you can't take anything for granted; I think NU continues their winning streak.

With back to back roadies to the Bronx and Bangor after that; we'll certainly find out what this Cadet team has become.

[NED3Guy]

Side note, with regards to Husson being best ECFC team ever:

I just looked at some stats and if the box scores are correct, Husson's D is holding their 3 ECFC opponents to just 2 of 37 on third down conversions! 2 of 37!!!

SUNY went 1 for 14
Gall U went 0 for 10
Castleton went 1 for 13

[ITH radio]

The jury's out on Alfred given they haven't faced the toughest in the E8 just yet. Still, Husson hanging in there and basically outperforming teams like RPI says a lot.

I still think Husson will win ECFC, Bridgewater will get MASCAC Pool A (new this year) and WNE/Salve winner will get NEFC bid. If NEFC champ is 10-0, they'd host Husson like we saw MIT going to Husson in 2014. Makes pairing easier for NCAA committee to handle that in similar fashion and allows Bridgewater to be sent either west towards NYS or South down by NJ/PA in Rd 1.

[MASCACAlum]

Husson is easily the best team in the ECFC. Norwich lost to Ida and their putrid offense. Thought that SUNY would be the best shot to beat Husson. Becker lost their QB or they would of had a shot. Ida better hope that he doesn't come back this week or their 10 pts a game offense is going to get blown out. I think a WNE Husson would be a great playoff game.

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[D3MAFAN]

Husson is easily the best team in the ECFC. Norwich lost to Ida and their putrid offense. Thought that SUNY would be the best shot to beat Husson. Becker lost their QB or they would of had a shot. Ida better hope that he doesn't come back this week or their 10 pts a game offense is going to get blown out. I think a WNE Husson would be a great playoff game.

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I think Husson is the front runner, but they can't overlook anyone. They will most likely face Bridgewater State from the MASCAC, which would leave the an undefeated NEFC going to anyone of the other stronger undefeated 1 loss teams. I would think that WNE would be deserving of a home game against a 1 loss or more at-large though.

[AUKaz00]

Is St. Lawrence within the 500 mile limit from Husson?  Going through Canada would be 418...

[ITH radio]

Yes it is so that's a possibility too, i.e., to pair Husson with SLU if the Saints won the LL, but there's precedence for a ECFC/NEFC pairing.

You never know how the rest of the field may affect who goes where so anything's possible.

[NED3Guy]

Was the MIT v Husson NCAA game back in the 2 New England bid era?

If memory serves me, it was in that era, and pairing these two together was a way to save a first round flight because no other team in the field was within 500 miles of Bangor.

LL champ was Hobart that year. If SLU wins out they should be given a first round home game (as an undefeated LL champ) and Husson (or honestly whoever the ecfc winner is) could certainly be that team.

Silly that costs and flights play more of a factor in first round matchups than merit, but that's a discussion for another thread.

[ITH radio]

Was the MIT v Husson NCAA game back in the 2 New England bid era?

If memory serves me, it was in that era, and pairing these two together was a way to save a first round flight because no other team in the field was within 500 miles of Bangor.

LL champ was Hobart that year. If SLU wins out they should be given a first round home game (as an undefeated LL champ) and Husson (or honestly whoever the ecfc winner is) could certainly be that team.

Silly that costs and flights play more of a factor in first round matchups than merit, but that's a discussion for another thread.

No, it was not. It was in 2014 so both had Pool As but Eagles (8-2) hosted b/c they filed and MIT (who had a better overall W/L at 10-0) didn't have a press box / facility that met the NCAA standards.

The LL champ (when 10-0) have been given some wide ranging bids over the last couple of years:

2014 - IC (E8 champ, 7-3)
2013 - Gallaudet (ECFC champ, 9-1)
2012 - W&L (ODAC champ, 8-2)

We could see another LL vs. ECFC pairing if SLU goes 10-0, but they could also end up playing a team from PA / NJ / MD too depending on how the tourney bids shake out.

[NED3Guy]

Was the MIT v Husson NCAA game back in the 2 New England bid era?

If memory serves me, it was in that era, and pairing these two together was a way to save a first round flight because no other team in the field was within 500 miles of Bangor.

LL champ was Hobart that year. If SLU wins out they should be given a first round home game (as an undefeated LL champ) and Husson (or honestly whoever the ecfc winner is) could certainly be that team.

Silly that costs and flights play more of a factor in first round matchups than merit, but that's a discussion for another thread.

No, it was not. It was in 2014 so both had Pool As but Eagles (8-2) hosted b/c they filed and MIT (who had a better overall W/L at 10-0) didn't have a press box / facility that met the NCAA standards.

The LL champ (when 10-0) have been given some wide ranging bids over the last couple of years:

2014 - IC (E8 champ, 7-3)
2013 - Gallaudet (ECFC champ, 9-1)
2012 - W&L (ODAC champ, 8-2)

We could see another LL vs. ECFC pairing if SLU goes 10-0, but they could also end up playing a team from PA / NJ / MD too depending on how the tourney bids shake out.

I didn't word my previous post very well....

I meant to say that 2014 was back when only two New England conferences received AQ's (ECFC and NEFC) This was the year that the MASCAC officially broke away and did not have a bid. Framingham played and ECAC game in 2014.

I only bring that up because we now have three New England conference AQ's (ECFC, NEFC, and MASCAC), and with that at least one more team in the tournament field who is within the 500 mile radius of Bangor. (Canton, NY also falls in this radius as others have noted, making SLU a possible "no flight" match-up for Husson depending on how things could play out)

Long way to go, and no guarantee that Husson wins the ECFC (though they do have tie breakers over two of the four remaining 1 loss teams, and get to play the other two to close out the season). Always fun to speculate though.

[ccd494]

They can't make Husson drive through Canada- I sincerely doubt everyone on that team has a passport.

It does look like there is a combination of back roads, game trails and hiking paths cutting horizontally through Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont that is under 500 miles.  Barely.