Eastern Collegiate Football Conference

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Yanks 99

What happened to SUNY-Maritime???  Lost 50-3 today???  Since finishing undefeated in the "regular" season, they have lost their last two games by a combined total of 110-3...wow...
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Pat Coleman

It's a different game when you play a team in the Top 150. Or in this case, a D-II team.
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pg04

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 12:59:08 PM
It's a different game when you play a team in the Top 150. Or in this case, a D-II team.

So them losing 50-3 doesnt really matter to the committee if they win the rest od their games since the opponent was D-2, right? 

Didn't husson lose by 70 this weekend too?  Pitiful conference. 

Yanks 99

Quote from: pg04 on September 04, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 12:59:08 PM
It's a different game when you play a team in the Top 150. Or in this case, a D-II team.

So them losing 50-3 doesnt really matter to the committee if they win the rest od their games since the opponent was D-2, right? 

Didn't husson lose by 70 this weekend too?  Pitiful conference.

I actually think PC was taking a shot at the ECFC...and rightfully so.

And pitiful barely describes the league...seriously, the fact that they get a auto bid is awful.  One less 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL makes the tourney now because we get an "undefeated" ECFC champion (consisting of former members of other conferences bottom feeders running to form their own conference/league).   
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Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
One less 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL makes the tourney now because we get an "undefeated" ECFC champion (consisting of former members of other conferences bottom feeders running to form their own conference/league).   

This isn't true for two reasons:

1) There are the same number of Pool C bids as last year.
2) Bids are not given out by region, so even if there were any changes, it would not be confined to East Region runners-up.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Yanks 99

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
One less 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL makes the tourney now because we get an "undefeated" ECFC champion (consisting of former members of other conferences bottom feeders running to form their own conference/league).   

This isn't true for two reasons:

1) There are the same number of Pool C bids as last year.
2) Bids are not given out by region, so even if there were any changes, it would not be confined to East Region runners-up.

We are comparing apples with apples here...

The ECFC, now that they get a Pool A auto bid, "officially" took away a Pool C from everyone trying to make the tourney nation wide...but in reality, it impacts mostly the East.  Look at the "East Region Brackets" over the past few years...excuse me, the Mount Union bracket (as they get shipped over to the East every single year), but now especially that the ECFC gets an auto.  I can almost predict with certainty the un-official "MUC Bracket" this year will consist of:

1) MUC
2) E8 Champ
3) LL Champ
4) MAC Champ
5) NJAC Champ
6) NEFC Champ
7) ECFC Champ
8) One lucky one loss 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL...or else the committe sends another team from another region, like Randolph-Macon.  Afterall, the "East" is generally perceived as the weakest bracket for some unknown reason (and completely eroniously in my opinion).

And of course there are as many Pool C bids as last year...since last year was the first year the ECFC got the Pool A bid...so unless there is some new conference out there that is getting a "new" Pool A this year...I was already assuming that there were the same number of Pool C bids overall as last year...
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
One less 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL makes the tourney now because we get an "undefeated" ECFC champion (consisting of former members of other conferences bottom feeders running to form their own conference/league).   

This isn't true for two reasons:

1) There are the same number of Pool C bids as last year.
2) Bids are not given out by region, so even if there were any changes, it would not be confined to East Region runners-up.

We are comparing apples with apples here...

The ECFC, now that they get a Pool A auto bid, "officially" took away a Pool C from everyone trying to make the tourney nation wide...but in reality, it impacts mostly the East.  Look at the "East Region Brackets" over the past few years...excuse me, the Mount Union bracket (as they get shipped over to the East every single year), but now especially that the ECFC gets an auto.  I can almost predict with certainty the un-official "MUC Bracket" this year will consist of:

1) MUC
2) E8 Champ
3) LL Champ
4) MAC Champ
5) NJAC Champ
6) NEFC Champ
7) ECFC Champ
8) One lucky 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL...or else the committe sends another team from another region, like Randolph-Macon.  Afterall, the "East" is generally perceived as the weakest bracket for some unknown reason (and completely eroniously in my opinion).

And of course there are as many Pool C bids as last year...since last year was the first year the ECFC got the Pool A bid...so unless there is some new conference out there that is getting a "new" Pool A this year...I was already assuming that there were the same number of Pool C bids overall as last year...
No officially, they took away a bid from Pool B.

If the ECFC teams were independents, they would be considered in Pool B.

In fact, my pick in the E8 is Salisbury.  If the SeaGulls get the Pool A bid, then I think that they probably host a first round game in the "south" bracket. :)  That leaves room for Mount Union to be moved to the northeast.

We are bucking up against the 32-team bracket limitations. All these schools adding football to offer participation in D3 football is tightening up the at-large situation.

Ralph Turner


Yanks 99

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 04:48:29 PM
One less 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL makes the tourney now because we get an "undefeated" ECFC champion (consisting of former members of other conferences bottom feeders running to form their own conference/league).   

This isn't true for two reasons:

1) There are the same number of Pool C bids as last year.
2) Bids are not given out by region, so even if there were any changes, it would not be confined to East Region runners-up.

We are comparing apples with apples here...

The ECFC, now that they get a Pool A auto bid, "officially" took away a Pool C from everyone trying to make the tourney nation wide...but in reality, it impacts mostly the East.  Look at the "East Region Brackets" over the past few years...excuse me, the Mount Union bracket (as they get shipped over to the East every single year), but now especially that the ECFC gets an auto.  I can almost predict with certainty the un-official "MUC Bracket" this year will consist of:

1) MUC
2) E8 Champ
3) LL Champ
4) MAC Champ
5) NJAC Champ
6) NEFC Champ
7) ECFC Champ
8) One lucky 2nd place team from the E8, NJAC, MAC, or LL...or else the committe sends another team from another region, like Randolph-Macon.  Afterall, the "East" is generally perceived as the weakest bracket for some unknown reason (and completely eroniously in my opinion).

And of course there are as many Pool C bids as last year...since last year was the first year the ECFC got the Pool A bid...so unless there is some new conference out there that is getting a "new" Pool A this year...I was already assuming that there were the same number of Pool C bids overall as last year...
No officially, they took away a bid from Pool B.

If the ECFC teams were independents, they would be considered in Pool B.

In fact, my pick in the E8 is Salisbury.  If the SeaGulls get the Pool A bid, then I think that they probably host a first round game in the "south" bracket. :)

I didn't think Pool B bids were guaranteed...example...the ECFC before they were Pool A eligible was considered a Pool B league...as such, one of them pretty much had to run the table to get the Pool B bid, otherwise the committee knew it was a crap league and another Pool C bid became available for "everyone".

I give up...you guys are always right...MUC is the best...nothing to see here...move along...
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Pat Coleman

Yanks99 -- listen to Ralph, he knows what he's talking about.

Two new automatic bids were added this year.

Pool B went from three teams to one.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Yanks 99

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 08:39:25 PM
Yanks99 -- listen to Ralph, he knows what he's talking about.

Two new automatic bids were added this year.

Pool B went from three teams to one.

I am listening Pat...and I actually get it...

Not sure why that was worth some -k...but ok...
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 08:38:55 PM
I give up...you guys are always right...MUC is the best...nothing to see here...move along...

This was what prompted the -1, since you asked for clarification.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Yanks 99

#163
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 04, 2011, 08:38:55 PM
I give up...you guys are always right...MUC is the best...nothing to see here...move along...

This was what prompted the -1, since you asked for clarification.

Wow...really???  It was a little bit of sarcasm Pat...that's all...

I was dropping some Star Wars lingo...the only thing I didn't add was "these aren't the droids you are looking for..."

So...if the one Pool B league/team has a terrible record, that does in fact open up another Pool C bid...correct???
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#164
There is one guaranteed Pool B selection this year. The only way that doesn't happen, I guess, is if nobody has a .500 record in all of Pool B. Wesley is likely to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.