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CardinalAlum

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 18, 2021, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: d4_Pace on October 18, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here's a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there's the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn't show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21
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Gotberg

Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 18, 2021, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 18, 2021, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: d4_Pace on October 18, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here's a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there's the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn't show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21

Thanks for the video.  Pretty clear yellow to me by running through the play and his foot going downward. 

Is that the official NC Men's soccer handle?  If so, sorry, but that's pretty embarrassing and they should have repercussions from the conference.  If not, no big deal and I enjoy fan pages.
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: Gotberg on October 18, 2021, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 18, 2021, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 18, 2021, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: d4_Pace on October 18, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here's a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there's the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn't show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21

Thanks for the video.  Pretty clear yellow to me by running through the play and his foot going downward. 

Is that the official NC Men's soccer handle?  If so, sorry, but that's pretty embarrassing and they should have repercussions from the conference.  If not, no big deal and I enjoy fan pages.


Unfortunately, it is and I do agree it's not a good look.  Wreaks of sour grapes.
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Gregory Sager

#1458
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 18, 2021, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 18, 2021, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: d4_Pace on October 18, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I haven't seen the play so I probably shouldn't weigh in but what you have described is a very common play that happens in soccer all the time where you anticipate that a player receiving a throw in will play it back to the thrower and immediately pressure them. This happens all the time and does not reveal a player's intent to get retribution. This is a heads up anticipation play that happens at every game about the age of 14.

Now like I said I didn't see the play and maybe he crushed into the guy and it warranted a yellow. But your post makes it seem like his 10 yard to sprint ignoring Olsen to tackle the thrower is what made it a yellow and if thats the case then its a bad call.

Yes, I know that it's de rigueur in soccer to close on a player throwing in the ball in anticipation of a return pass, same as is the case in basketball. What I think you may have missed, though, is the fact that Fairwood, as the player involved in the touchline entanglement that led to that throw-in, immediately ran out from the touchline ten yards onto the pitch before pulling off a high-speed U-ie and bearing back down on Lundeen. In other words, he wasn't some random player in the middle of the pitch who saw an uncovered man throwing in the ball and ran in to challenge him. Fairwood deliberately ran away and then came back for the obvious purpose of building up a head of steam before crashing into Lundeen, rather than simply sticking close to the touchline and marking Lundeen as would typically be the case.

Here's a link to video I saw.  Completely agree that playing on one yellow, you have to be more careful throwing yourself around and there's the tone of the game that you mentioned.  That part obviously doesn't show on video.  You had to have been there to take the temperature of the game and official.  Again, this is one view.   

https://twitter.com/nccmsoc/status/1449724379600990208?s=21

Either the NCC fan who clipped from the broadcast and then passed it along to whomever runs the NCC men's soccer Twitter account, or that NCC men's soccer Twitter operator him- or herself, carefully edited it so that you only see Fairwood as he's turning. What you don't see is the prior tangle-up with Lundeen on the touchline, followed by Fairwood's ensuing sprint to the point where he turns and the Twitter video starts up.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Rutgers-Newark sent an unhappy Wheaton team home to the heartland with a 2-0 loss, as the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance go 0-for-2 in New Jersey. The numbers indicate that Rutgers-Newark clearly had the run of play. Wheaton drops to a distinctly un-Wheatonlike 7-5-1 on the season.

More bad news on the non-conference front, as UW-Platteville came into Thorson-Lucken Field and drubbed Augustana, 3-0. The box score numbers were likewise ugly for Augie (4-9), which has now dropped seven straight, all but one of them by multiple goals.

Incidentally, Dominican @ North Central, originally scheduled for tomorrow night, has been canceled.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Final from Hedstrand:

North Park 2
Millikin 0

NPU: Anamoo (9) 65:31, Barriga (4) 67:06

This game was like watching a guy at a carnival midway shooting gallery spend half of his money trying to hit the rows of ducks without winning a stuffed animal for his girlfriend. The Vikings finally broke through as the game moved into its final third of play, but it was a frustrating evening -- NPU expended 43 shots, a dozen of them on goal, and only managed to muster two goals despite controlling the ball for what felt like about 95% of the clock. Fortunately, you only need one goal if your opponent can't even manage to get off more than one off-target shot all night.

The important thing, though, is that the Vikings clinched their fourth straight CCIW title, and the homefield advantage in the CCIW tourney that comes with it. Congrats to NPU!


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Final from Neis:

Illinois Wesleyan 3
Elmhurst 0

IWU: Hoare (3) 11:44, Martin (2) 15:59, Malone (3) 44:11

Elmhurst's hot streak came to an abrupt end on the grass in Bloomington tonight, as the Titans took a big step forward towards securing a CCIW tourney slot.

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Final from rain-sodden Keller:

Carthage 5
Carroll 1

CC: Renfro (1) 20:38, Reilly (6) 20:54, Moran (5) 53:01, Iverson (2) 55:32, Crowder (2) 55:39
CU: Pequignot (7) 27:32

Lightning delayed the start of this game quite a bit, and I'm sure that the Pioneers are wondering why they didn't just get on the bus and go home during the thunderstorm. The Firebirds scored in clumps and easily dispatched Carroll, which continues to get exposed in CCIW play after gobbling up all of those non-conference cupcakes. Carthage, on the other hand, for whom it's either feast or famine as far as goals are concerned, may be starting to peak at the right time.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

deiscanton

The Carthage match vs CWRU is underway from the Indiana Invaders Sports Complex.

Case Western Reserve is providing live stats of the match from their men's soccer page.  There is no live video of today's match.

Score is currently 0-0 in the 15th minute.

deiscanton

Halftime

CWRU 1, Carthage 0

CWRU's goal came on a penalty kick from Seldon Magruder in the 44th minute.

deiscanton

Carthage has equalized in the 73rd minute on a goal from Aidan Crowder.

CWRU and Carthage are now tied, 1-1.

deiscanton

CWRU has retaken the lead on a goal from Lukas Dalakis with an assist from Jacob Salmon in the 74th minute.

It is now CWRU leading 2-1 over Carthage.

deiscanton

Carthage has scored the equalizer in the 87th minute on a goal from Nick Renfro on an assist from Mickey Reilly.

We are now tied at 2-2 with a few minutes to go in regulation until extra time.

deiscanton

End of regulation

Case Western Reserve University 2, Carthage 2

Match is heading to golden goal extra time.

deiscanton

After the first extra time period, CWRU and Carthage are still tied at 2-2.

deiscanton

Golden goal scored by Carthage's Mickey Reilly in the 106th minute.

Final:  Carthage 3, Case Western Reserve Univ 2

mr_b

#11 Chicago leads #12 North Park 1-0 at the half.