CCIW

[keeker]

Please let me be clear - I wasn't calling for any indictment of NPU or their Swedes.  I simply meant as a descriptor, the physical maturity of some of these kids is evident.  I would never suggest any wrongdoing - Coach Born actually explained some of the programs [Center for Scandinavian Studies] at NPU to me a couple years ago that are attractive to the Scandinavian student-athletes; he wouldn't be a good recruiter if he didn't take advantage of those assets.

Putting all that aside, the Vikings are simply a talented, DEEP squad.  I saw Chicago rally to score two late goals to beat IWU recently - that upcoming match could be a good one!

Putting the age thing in perspective, Faulkner University [NAIA] has a 61-year old kicker on their football roster this year....   

http://blog.al.com/montgomery/2011/08/61-year-old_joins_faulkner_foo.html

But you will admit that if you took out Swedish men from the picture, NPU is mediocre at best. Some of these Swedes are stronger players than most D1 players. Stronger, not necessarily better soccer players.

[The Sock Heir]

Keeker, let us try and keep your comments relevant. Arguing that NPU would be mediocre without their Swedes is a useless argument.

[Gregory Sager]

But you will admit that if you took out Swedish men from the picture, NPU is mediocre at best.

That's a silly and pointless statement.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The conference schedule finally begins today, with IWU @ NPU for a coed double-header.  While I am quite confident that the Titan women will be all alone in first place in the conference for a few days, I fear the Viking men will hold that status for a while.  We'll know for sure in about 19 hours.

Got 'em both right.

I propose a new scoring method - combine the women's and men's scores!  Result: IWU 5, NPU 4.

Yeah, right. As if.

Tell you what. We'll give you half-credit for the women's score. Result: NPU 4, IWU 2 1/2 

Mrs. Y says: "Rot in hell, chauvinist pig!"

[Gregory Sager]

The conference schedule finally begins today, with IWU @ NPU for a coed double-header.  While I am quite confident that the Titan women will be all alone in first place in the conference for a few days, I fear the Viking men will hold that status for a while.  We'll know for sure in about 19 hours.

Got 'em both right.

I propose a new scoring method - combine the women's and men's scores!  Result: IWU 5, NPU 4.

Yeah, right. As if.

Tell you what. We'll give you half-credit for the women's score. Result: NPU 4, IWU 2 1/2 

Mrs. Y says: "Rot in hell, chauvinist pig!"

LOL!

[cciwrabblerouser]

Greg, I'm late on this, but kudos for using the word "desultory" on a soccer board. In fact, kudos for you even posting on this board - and posting well, I might add. Then to see Dennis? Mark? What's next? Nationally televised soccer matches in prime-time?!

Oh, the horror!

i said it 30 years ago when baseball went on strike - "Soccer is a Communist Plot"

If no one else on this board appreciates this, i'm sure that Dennis will:  Why do 40 m

illion kids in the United States play soccer?  Because then don't have to watch it.  (rim shot, please)

[Gregory Sager]

Dark Knight has been tracking how the eight MIAA sides are performing in the Massey Ratings over in the MIAA room, so out of curiosity I thought I'd do the same for the CCIW's eight sides. This does not have all of this weekend's results (including IWU @ NPU) entered into the database:

North Park #15
Wheaton #86
Carthage #102
Augustana #111
Elmhurst #119
North Central #129
Illinois Wesleyan #142
Millikin #329

This is out of 399 schools listed.

Among the past and future opponents of CCIW sides are:

Dominican #2 (lost to NPU, 2-0; beat Wheaton, 3-1)
Ohio Wesleyan #4 (beat Wheaton, 3-1)
St. Olaf #9 (beat Elmhurst, 3-0)
Calvin #13 (beat Wheaton, 2-1)
UW-Oshkosh #17 (tied NPU, 1-1; tied Carthage, 0-0; will play Wheaton)
Chicago #19 (tied Wheaton, 0-0; beat IWU, 3-2; beat Elmhurst, 1-0; will play NPU and Carthage)
Washington MO #20 (will play IWU)
Redlands #25 (beat Carthage, 4-0)
Loras #26 (beat North Central, 4-0; lost to Wheaton, 2-1)
DePauw #42 (beat Millikin, 2-1)
St. Scholastica #44 (beat Augustana, 2-1)
Hope #47 (beat Wheaton, 4-0)
Dubuque #69 (lost to Augustana, 1-0; will play Elmhurst)
Pomona-Pitzer #90 (beat Carthage, 3-1)
Capital #98 (lost to Wheaton, 4-2)
UW-Whitewater #100 (beat IWU, 2-1; will play NPU)

I'm not sure that the database is extensive enough yet for Massey to get a really good read on D3 soccer. Just thought I'd add this for the sake of conversation.

[markerickson]

Given the absolute pathetic state of the economy that Obama inherited, coupled by the fact that the Obama administration has been unable to reverse the ship, Swedes sense opportunity.  (I witnessed a horrible exchange rate when I visited Scotland during Wimbledon.)  The Swedish state grants college age students $ for college, interest free, but under the obligation that they repay the debt before age 65.  I don't have more details, but if the tuition program and current exchange rate is so advantageous to a Swede, why not come to America?

[Gregory Sager]

Please restrict political opinionating to this site's politics boards, Mark.

[GarbageGoals33]

Seemed like a pretty valid point...

[The Sock Heir]

I'm assuming, "Given the absolute pathetic state of the economy that Obama inherited, coupled by the fact that the Obama administration has been unable to reverse the ship," was what Greg was referring to, not the validity of the comment. This is a soccer forum, not a political forum.

[Gregory Sager]

I'm assuming, "Given the absolute pathetic state of the economy that Obama inherited, coupled by the fact that the Obama administration has been unable to reverse the ship," was what Greg was referring to, not the validity of the comment. This is a soccer forum, not a political forum.

Exactly.

[Gregory Sager]

NPU moves up from eleventh to eighth in this week's d3soccer.com poll. Chicago, which is at the tail end of the Others Receiving Votes category of the poll, hosts the Vikings tonight down at 55th and Cottage Grove.

[GarbageGoals33]

Glad to see 50% of your posts are related to how politics are involved in a soccer forum Sock Heir.

[The Sock Heir]

Haha! I seldom practice what I preach.