CCIW

[Gregory Sager]

Meh, I stand by my statement. I don't like North Park's student fans, whom I find quite boorish. I also find their players to be whiners, so I have no problem rooting against them. NPU guys liked Sager can vehemently disagree all they want, but that's my opinion and they can have theirs.

I don't have any problem at all with your opinion being different from mine. What I said to you last season:

Just cuz you love your Vikings doesn't mean anyone else is gonna like them (and we don't).

Excellent. Nobody expects you to.

It wouldn't be any fun to be on top if being there didn't bother the people below you.

... still stands. In the immortal words of Sly and the Family Stone, "different strokes for different folks."

[blue_jays]

Meh, I stand by my statement. I don't like North Park's student fans, whom I find quite boorish. I also find their players to be whiners, so I have no problem rooting against them. NPU guys liked Sager can vehemently disagree all they want, but that's my opinion and they can have theirs.

I don't have any problem at all with your opinion being different from mine. What I said to you last season:

Just cuz you love your Vikings doesn't mean anyone else is gonna like them (and we don't).

Excellent. Nobody expects you to.

It wouldn't be any fun to be on top if being there didn't bother the people below you.

... still stands. In the immortal words of Sly and the Family Stone, "different strokes for different folks."

In terms of the above, North Park's success on the pitch doesn't bother me. I'd feel the same whether they are good or terrible. Historically, I've preferred watching Wheaton teams anyhow. Those Rob Mouw-Eric Brown squads were incredible. We won't see a team that good again in the CCIW.

[augie77]

Your best bet for now is to keep checking the Wheaton web site.  Yes, the Wheaton games will definitely be live streamed from the campus tv station, WETN.  I'm not sure about the other games, but the web site will hopefully answer that question in the next day or so.

The d3soccer website shows live stats and video for the Ohio-Wesleyan game this Friday.  You will find this under scores for November 9.  Just click on the links.

[OhioSocYea]

Your best bet for now is to keep checking the Wheaton web site.  Yes, the Wheaton games will definitely be live streamed from the campus tv station, WETN.  I'm not sure about the other games, but the web site will hopefully answer that question in the next day or so.

The d3soccer website shows live stats and video for the Ohio-Wesleyan game this Friday.  You will find this under scores for November 9.  Just click on the links.

Yep, just noticed this as well, thanks! Wheaton website has also been updated with links for video for the Ohio Wesleyan and Centre match. Well done Wheaton!

[Thunder1]

Couldn't be more pleased to see Wheaton send North Park's annoying fans home empty handed.

And I couldn't be more pleased that Dave DiTomasso's crew of Elmhurst leg-breakers are at home right now putting away their brass knuckles after a 1-6 CCIW campaign -- a 1-6 campaign that included a 2-0 loss to Millikin, for crying out loud.

Wow! Wheaton's keeper must have time traveled ahead and came back to stop those first 2 goals in the shootout.  He looked like he knew exactly where they were going from the get go.

Ryan Seager did a fantastic job in the shootout, and I tip my hat to him. But I'm on record as hating shootouts. Soccer is the only sport in the world in which the outcome can be settled in a format different than that of the game itself. Does basketball eschew overtime by having the two teams play a game of H-O-R-S-E to settle the outcome? Does baseball say "no" to extra innings, and instead have the two teams do a Home Run Derby to determine the winner?

And, yeah, I'd be saying the same thing if NPU had beaten Wheaton in the shootout. I just wouldn't be saying it as loudly.

I believe, and hope that NP will have a pretty good group of fans driving out to Dubeque for the game vs Washington. What do you think about North Park and  Wheatons chances to do well in the tournament? Personally I believe that North Park has had a great run the last part of the season and has a great chance of at least winning the first round. Loras in the second round will probably be a more difficult game to win but I do believe that on a good day, the Vikings can beat any team.

Optimism must be tempered. NPU's been a very strong regular-season outfit in recent years, but the postseason has been another matter. The Vikings are only 1-4 in the tournament over the past decade. They have to focus exclusively on Wash U, because beating the Bears will be more than enough of a task to hold their attention. As for Loras ... well, let's just say that NPU has yet to face a foe in Loras's category this season.

Hello fellas. Just wanted to chime in on the Loras/NP discussion. Actually NP has played a foe in Loras's category. Twice as a mater of fact. Wheaton played Loras early in the year and the 2-0 score was not reflective of the game. It was a track meet with even shots and possession. The score was 0-0 with 8 minutes left to play. Could have gone either way. After Loras scored Wheaton was forced to press for the tie. Second goal was on a missed offsides call with a minute or so left in the game. For those of you that don't know, Wheaton starts 6 freshmen and sophomores and has a completely new back line this year. It took a while for them to work out some kinks early in the season.

If NP gets through the first game I think the can give Loras some trouble. Their conditioning is a little suspect in my opinion but if they can hang in there, Jonas can strike in a heartbeat. Very dangerous player.

As for NP fans, they can be a little obnoxious but all in good fun in my opinion. I was glad they got into the tournament and certainly believe they deserve to be there. The CCIW Championship game at Wheaton was one of the best college soccer atmospheres I've seen at any level.

[KICKIN95]

Couldn't be more pleased to see Wheaton send North Park's annoying fans home empty handed.

And I couldn't be more pleased that Dave DiTomasso's crew of Elmhurst leg-breakers are at home right now putting away their brass knuckles after a 1-6 CCIW campaign -- a 1-6 campaign that included a 2-0 loss to Millikin, for crying out loud.

Wow! Wheaton's keeper must have time traveled ahead and came back to stop those first 2 goals in the shootout.  He looked like he knew exactly where they were going from the get go.

Ryan Seager did a fantastic job in the shootout, and I tip my hat to him. But I'm on record as hating shootouts. Soccer is the only sport in the world in which the outcome can be settled in a format different than that of the game itself. Does basketball eschew overtime by having the two teams play a game of H-O-R-S-E to settle the outcome? Does baseball say "no" to extra innings, and instead have the two teams do a Home Run Derby to determine the winner?

And, yeah, I'd be saying the same thing if NPU had beaten Wheaton in the shootout. I just wouldn't be saying it as loudly.

I believe, and hope that NP will have a pretty good group of fans driving out to Dubeque for the game vs Washington. What do you think about North Park and  Wheatons chances to do well in the tournament? Personally I believe that North Park has had a great run the last part of the season and has a great chance of at least winning the first round. Loras in the second round will probably be a more difficult game to win but I do believe that on a good day, the Vikings can beat any team.

Optimism must be tempered. NPU's been a very strong regular-season outfit in recent years, but the postseason has been another matter. The Vikings are only 1-4 in the tournament over the past decade. They have to focus exclusively on Wash U, because beating the Bears will be more than enough of a task to hold their attention. As for Loras ... well, let's just say that NPU has yet to face a foe in Loras's category this season.

Umm what about Ice Hockey, Field Hockey, Water Polo, Team Handball, Cricket, Rugby,and of course Gaelic Football.  These sports also determine a winner through shootouts.

[GarbageGoals33]

KICKIN pulling out all stops when Gaelic Football is involved.  Hopefully the NPU players are able to play better than they dance when they are down in Dubuque!

[Gregory Sager]

Hello fellas. Just wanted to chime in on the Loras/NP discussion. Actually NP has played a foe in Loras's category. Twice as a mater of fact. Wheaton played Loras early in the year and the 2-0 score was not reflective of the game. It was a track meet with even shots and possession. The score was 0-0 with 8 minutes left to play. Could have gone either way. After Loras scored Wheaton was forced to press for the tie. Second goal was on a missed offsides call with a minute or so left in the game.

That's good to know. Thanks for that game breakdown. After checking the box score, it's true -- Wheaton actually outshot Loras, although Loras had more shots on frame, and the two goals by the Duhawks did come very, very late in the contest. I still think that NPU would be a decided underdog in a potential NPU @ Loras matchup, but I do feel better about NPU's chances now. First things first, though -- Wash U is on the docket, and the Bears will not be a pushover.

Umm what about Ice Hockey, Field Hockey, Water Polo, Team Handball, Cricket, Rugby,and of course Gaelic Football.  These sports also determine a winner through shootouts.

My bad for using the word "world". I'd completely forgotten about the NHL's abomination in adopting the shootout. Rugby uses golden-point overtimes, though, not shootouts. As for the other sports ... couldn't care less.

Doesn't make soccer's use of the shootout any more legitimate. It just means that soccer has some company in maintaining a stupid tiebreaking mode. Thanks for the correction, though. Nice catch.

[Thunder1]

Hello fellas. Just wanted to chime in on the Loras/NP discussion. Actually NP has played a foe in Loras's category. Twice as a mater of fact. Wheaton played Loras early in the year and the 2-0 score was not reflective of the game. It was a track meet with even shots and possession. The score was 0-0 with 8 minutes left to play. Could have gone either way. After Loras scored Wheaton was forced to press for the tie. Second goal was on a missed offsides call with a minute or so left in the game.

That's good to know. Thanks for that game breakdown. After checking the box score, it's true -- Wheaton actually outshot Loras, although Loras had more shots on frame, and the two goals by the Duhawks did come very, very late in the contest. I still think that NPU would be a decided underdog in a potential NPU @ Loras matchup, but I do feel better about NPU's chances now. First things first, though -- Wash U is on the docket, and the Bears will not be a pushover.

Just for reference on Wash U, Wheaton played them earlier in the year at Wash U. Wash U was never really in the game. Wheaton was up 3-0 early in the second half and subbed liberally in the second half. Shots were 16-7 Wheaton with lots of possession and Wash U only had 2 shots on goal. In Wash U's defense I had heard that a couple of their players were out but with their lack of speed they never really threatened. I like NP's chances against them.




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[Gregory Sager]

Just for reference on Wash U, Wheaton played them earlier in the year at Wash U. Wash U was never really in the game. Wheaton was up 3-0 early in the second half and subbed liberally in the second half. Shots were 16-7 Wheaton with lots of possession and Wash U only had 2 shots on goal. In Wash U's defense I had heard that a couple of their players were out but with their lack of speed they never really threatened. I like NP's chances against them.

NPU and Wash U have one other opponent in common: Chicago, which tied both squads (2-2 vs. NPU in late September, and 0-0 vs. Wash U last Saturday).

It doesn't appear that Wash U had any key players who were missing for that Wheaton match other than Jeremy Kirkwood, who tied for the team lead in scoring this season.

The Bears have been in the postseason the past two years, same as NPU, so they will be battle-tested in terms of November soccer. I know that John Born and the rest of the NPU braintrust will not take the Bears lightly.

[KICKIN95]

Just for reference on Wash U, Wheaton played them earlier in the year at Wash U. Wash U was never really in the game. Wheaton was up 3-0 early in the second half and subbed liberally in the second half. Shots were 16-7 Wheaton with lots of possession and Wash U only had 2 shots on goal. In Wash U's defense I had heard that a couple of their players were out but with their lack of speed they never really threatened. I like NP's chances against them.

NPU and Wash U have one other opponent in common: Chicago, which tied both squads (2-2 vs. NPU in late September, and 0-0 vs. Wash U last Saturday).

It doesn't appear that Wash U had any key players who were missing for that Wheaton match other than Jeremy Kirkwood, who tied for the team lead in scoring this season.

The Bears have been in the postseason the past two years, same as NPU, so they will be battle-tested in terms of November soccer. I know that John Born and the rest of the NPU braintrust will not take the Bears lightly.

Wash U & Wheaton both played Loras this year, Loras tied Wash U 0-0 but out shot the Bears 23-7 and 7-2 SOG and lead in corners 9-2.  Against Wheaton Loras walked away with a 2-0 victory, but the stats and the match were much, much closer, Wheaton had the edge in shots 13-12 and Loras led in SOG and corners 6-4 and 3-2 respectively and the play was what has come to expected between the two the last 8 years.  Wash U no doubt can play, but they aren't quite Wheaton caliber.

[Gotberg]

Good luck to Wheaton tonight and North Park tomorrow!!!

[Gregory Sager]

FINAL:

NPU 4
Wash U 1

Now comes the hard part: Loras tomorrow.

Wheaton beat Transylvania last night, 3-0, and will host Centre today.

[markerickson]

Loras has only four players from Iowa on its roster; 17 hail from Illinois (mostly DuPage county).  North Park has 17 players from Sweden.

[KICKIN95]

Loras has only four players from Iowa on its roster; 17 hail from Illinois (mostly DuPage county).  North Park has 17 players from Sweden.

Loras has always been a hotbed for some of the top Illinois players.  Not sure about the Sweden NPU connection