Pool C -- 2009

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D O.C.

How many of you guys are card counters? You do not have to admit it here, you can always IM me. Only a few of us would know then. If you only handicap the dogs, I am not that interested. BTW, where do you get your injury reports?   ::)

crudbdad

I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

Ron Boerger

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Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

No worries - with the criteria currently in place there's no way the AA can leave out the Cru.   

Honest.   ;D

D O.C.

QuoteI think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

...and that's a healthy attitude.

Many teams will have it and that's why the selection is so tough.

HSCTiger74

Quote from: D O.C. on November 09, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
How many of you guys are card counters? You do not have to admit it here, you can always IM me. Only a few of us would know then. If you only handicap the dogs, I am not that interested. BTW, where do you get your injury reports?   ::)

Pardon me for being stupid, but WHAT THE HELL ...?
TANSTAAFL

Toby Taff

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

No worries - with the criteria currently in place there's no way the AA can leave out the Cru.   

Honest.   ;D
If Ron says it, It must be true.  I should wager all that I have.   ;) ;D
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

crudbdad

Quote from: Toby Taff on November 09, 2009, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

No worries - with the criteria currently in place there's no way the AA can leave out the Cru.   

Honest.   ;D
If Ron says it, It must be true.  I should wager all that I have.   ;) ;D
Ron said it; you backed it up maybe now I can sleep some this week ;) ;D

Toby Taff

Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on November 09, 2009, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

No worries - with the criteria currently in place there's no way the AA can leave out the Cru.   

Honest.   ;D
If Ron says it, It must be true.  I should wager all that I have.   ;) ;D
Ron said it; you backed it up maybe now I can sleep some this week ;) ;D
Like a New born no doubt
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Toby Taff on November 09, 2009, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on November 09, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
I think UMHB just wants a ticket to the dance. Let us in and we'll take our chances.

No worries - with the criteria currently in place there's no way the AA can leave out the Cru.   

Honest.   ;D
If Ron says it, It must be true.  I should wager all that I have.   ;) ;D

Well, no, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.   :D

smedindy

If Wabash can't beat DPU then they have no right to be in the playoffs.

Wabash Always Fights!

K-Mack

Quote from: smedindy on November 09, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
If Wabash can't beat DPU then they have no right to be in the playoffs.

You're entitled to your opinion. I don't know about that specifically, but they will have had two clear paths -- via the NCAC AQ, and then as the only one-loss playoff hopeful in the North, giving them as many as six shots at getting chosen by the committee.

It's a much tougher road once you group them with ONU, NCC, Wheaton and Otterbein.

I realize these things don't break 100% along the one-loss/two-loss lines, but that's usually a good line of demarcation
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K-Mack

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 08, 2009, 01:44:53 PM
The NCAA may be paying for a few more flights this year.

Don't count on it.

Even when the selection committee comes up with a bracket that asks for more flights, if there's a way to avoid them, they'll be avoided.

The best bets are for the island teams (Texas/south and Far west) to have odd numbers get in, therefore forcing someone to fly no matter what the matchups are. (i.e. Linfield, Redlands and CLU in the West)

There are so many flex teams that are within 500 miles of more than one region that I feel fairly confident, given several hours of bracket-making, that the committee will be forced to come up with something we can all argue about later.

Also remember the NCAA generally makes the bracket with no respect to what might happen in the second round, flight-wise or conference-rematch-wise. It tends to go only with what can be guaranteed in the first round.
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K-Mack

Quote from: Conrad on November 08, 2009, 03:30:32 PM
There are a lot of candidates to move in the South region. Thomas More could go North again, so could Depauw. Wesley could easily be moved east along with Dickinson, Hopkins and W &J (who could go North too if they get in.)

I'm very intrigued by these possibilities as well.

W&J could go north, east or south.

There are enough teams within a very short drive of Mount Union to make them a 1 seed without having to have the bracket involve only East teams. W&J, Thomas More, MSJ, DePauw, potential ONU/Otterbein/Wabash ... East teams could surround Wesley, but that leaves the deep south on a weird island.

All I'm saying is maybe four Ohio teams and the NE/NY teams could be in one bracket, and the deep south could end up with the Pa./Del. south. ... maybe I'm reaching, but it could be done.

Also, for all the H-SC speculation, 1, 2 or 3 seed ... you can mark down that they'll host the USAC champ. NCWC or Averett. Seems like a no-brainer.

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usee

Interesting theory on the Ohio/East bracket. I hadn't considered it that deeply. It does feel like the logjam is in the west though and, while there are a couple ways to solve it, moving UWW and a Coe/St Norberts as a 1/8 seed seems to free up a lot of spots and insure the other undefeated West teams get home games. I'll be interested to see your and Pat's predictions later this week.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: K-Mack on November 10, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
Quote from: Conrad on November 08, 2009, 03:30:32 PM
There are a lot of candidates to move in the South region. Thomas More could go North again, so could Depauw. Wesley could easily be moved east along with Dickinson, Hopkins and W &J (who could go North too if they get in.)

I'm very intrigued by these possibilities as well.

W&J could go north, east or south.

There are enough teams within a very short drive of Mount Union to make them a 1 seed without having to have the bracket involve only East teams. W&J, Thomas More, MSJ, DePauw, potential ONU/Otterbein/Wabash ... East teams could surround Wesley, but that leaves the deep south on a weird island.

All I'm saying is maybe four Ohio teams and the NE/NY teams could be in one bracket, and the deep south could end up with the Pa./Del. south. ... maybe I'm reaching, but it could be done.

Also, for all the H-SC speculation, 1, 2 or 3 seed ... you can mark down that they'll host the USAC champ. NCWC or Averett. Seems like a no-brainer.

I think that the ASC would be happy just splitting us apart.  If Huntingdon is ranked ahead of Miss College, then the drive to Montgomery for Mississippi fans is nothing... just like another SEC road game! The next game is a plane fight anyway you look at it.

Besides, I think that it would be good to take advantage of the opportunity to have different brackets one year.

Curry to Wesley is 387 miles.