Pool C -- 2009

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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 12, 2009, 01:27:38 PM
The ...teams at the table are:
(regional record, SOS, record against regionally ranked teams)
South - UMHB (6-1, .482, 0-1)
South - Dickinson (8-1, .508, 0-1)  

wally, based on the criteria, how is it that UMHB gets on the board from the South first?
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: BlueRebel94 on November 12, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
SaintsFAN has got previous loyalties clashing with current loyalties.

Yep.  Dean Paul is a class act --- they can BOTH get in, but alot of chaos needs to happen between now on Saturday night
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AUKaz00

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 12, 2009, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 12, 2009, 01:27:38 PM
The ...teams at the table are:
(regional record, SOS, record against regionally ranked teams)
South - UMHB (6-1, .482, 0-1)
South - Dickinson (8-1, .508, 0-1)  

wally, based on the criteria, how is it that UMHB gets on the board from the South first?

If the Regional Rankings hold up, then UMHB would be on the board before Dickinson.
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Bob.Gregg

But Regional Rankings are SUPPOSED to be based on the criteria.....

Oh, what a tangled web is woven....
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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: BlueRebel94 on November 12, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
SaintsFAN has got previous loyalties clashing with current loyalties.

Sounds like Devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other....

Been there, done that!
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BlueRebel94

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 12, 2009, 04:13:59 PM
But Regional Rankings are SUPPOSED to be based on the criteria.....

Oh, what a tangled web is woven....

That's is what has had me perplexed about TMC being behind HSC in the regional rankings this week (both 9-0 TMC 157 SOS, HSC 213 SOS)
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: BlueRebel94 on November 12, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 12, 2009, 04:13:59 PM
But Regional Rankings are SUPPOSED to be based on the criteria.....

Oh, what a tangled web is woven....

That's is what has had me perplexed about TMC being behind HSC in the regional rankings this week (both 9-0 TMC 157 SOS, HSC 213 SOS)

Alphabetical order factor, I guess  ::)
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

usee

What if Wabash loses this weekend? then ONU is on the board for the North from the get go. How does that affect the choices, if at all? (Bob will say not at all--ONU Fans will say they are in earlier?)

oldtiger

With the Chair of each region on the national committee deciding who makes the show, how beneficial is it for ONU and IWU that the North Region Co-Chairs are the OAC Commissioner and IWU's Head Coach? And where does Dan Paul, ONU's Head Coach, being on the North Region Board factor into the process?


Ralph Turner

Quote from: oldtiger on November 12, 2009, 06:23:51 PM
With the Chair of each region on the national committee deciding who makes the show, how beneficial is it for ONU and IWU that the North Region Co-Chairs are the OAC Commissioner and IWU's Head Coach? And where does Dan Paul, ONU's Head Coach, being on the North Region Board factor into the process?

Theoretically, no benefit at all.

As the chair of the committee, the Chair wants to conduct a fair, unbiased selection that each of the committee members can justify to their peers.

Will there be hard decisions?  Yes, but the difficulty of those decisions should be appreciated by all who observe the proceedings and study the outcome.

oldtiger

Comforting to know that all remains apolitical  :o.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: oldtiger on November 12, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
Comforting to know that all remains apolitical  :o.

Yes, just like Wittenberg Baseball Coach Jay Lewis who sits on the Mideast Region Baseball Committee or Wittenberg Men's Golf Coach Jeff Roope who chairs the Mideast Regional Men's Golf Committee.   ;)

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Quote from: oldtiger on November 12, 2009, 06:23:51 PM
And where does Dan Paul, ONU's Head Coach, being on the North Region Board factor into the process?

Did ONU get a new coach?  ;)
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Thunderbacker

It probably won't happen but based on the playoff run that Wheaton College (Illinois) had in 2008, it's hard to keep them out this year.  They were 7-2 last year and got to the final four.  Their two losses this year were to two ranked teams (Illinois Wesleyan and North Central College).  Too bad the committee won't consider three teams from the same conference.  The CCIW is very competitve and the top teams knock each other out.  Even Carthage and Augustana could compete with several teams that are automatic qualifiers.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Thunderbacker on November 12, 2009, 10:08:31 PM
It probably won't happen but based on the playoff run that Wheaton College (Illinois) had in 2008, it's hard to keep them out this year.  They were 7-2 last year and got to the final four.  Their two losses this year were to two ranked teams (Illinois Wesleyan and North Central College).  Too bad the committee won't consider three teams from the same conference.  The CCIW is very competitve and the top teams knock each other out.  Even Carthage and Augustana could compete with several teams that are automatic qualifiers.

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