2010 Tournament Brackets/Pod projections

[nwhoops1903]

4 regions: WEST-SOUTH, MIDWEST, EAST and ATLANTIC

Looking at the Great Lakes, West, Midwest, and South regional rankings and conference AQ's and projected Pool C's.  I have my suggestion/projection on how to use the 3 byes, < 500 mile travel, and other restraints to project half the bracket.

This leaves the Northeast, Mid Atlantic, East, and Atlantic regions as well as the winner of the OAC to make up the other half (32 teams) of the national bracket.

This projection also limits the air travel the following weekend to 2 flights. (WEST-SOUTH, MIDWEST)

MIDWEST: 16 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Wash U (1), Westminister, Central (25), Illinois Wes.
Pod B:  Whitewater (8), Carthage (16), Aurora, Gustavus/Carleton
Pod C:  Stevens Point (9), Wheaton, St Norbert (17), St. Thomas (3)
Pod D:  Wooster (19), Hope, John Carrol (24), Anderson (23)

WEST-SOUTH: 13 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Claremont/PP at Chapman (12), winner to Whitworth (5)
Pod B:  MH Baylor at Austin, winner to UT Dallas (15)
Pod C:  Thomas More at Randy Mac (18), winner to E. Mennonite (7)
Pod D:  Guilford (4), NC Wes., Maryville, Virginia Wes. (11)

That's 17 of the current top 25 in these 2 brackets.

[Ralph Turner]

4 regions: WEST-SOUTH, MIDWEST, EAST and ATLANTIC

Looking at the Great Lakes, West, Midwest, and South regional rankings and conference AQ's and projected Pool C's.  I have my suggestion/projection on how to use the 3 byes, < 500 mile travel, and other restraints to project half the bracket.

This leaves the Northeast, Mid Atlantic, East, and Atlantic regions as well as the winner of the OAC to make up the other half (32 teams) of the national bracket.

This projection also limits the air travel the following weekend to 2 flights. (WEST-SOUTH, MIDWEST)

MIDWEST: 16 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Wash U (1), Westminister, Central (25), Illinois Wes.
Pod B:  Whitewater (8), Carthage (16), Aurora, Gustavus/Carleton
Pod C:  Stevens Point (9), Wheaton, St Norbert (17), St. Thomas (3)
Pod D:  Wooster (19), Hope, John Carrol (24), Anderson (23)

WEST-SOUTH: 13 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Claremont/PP at Chapman (12), winner to Whitworth (5)
Pod B:  MH Baylor at Austin, winner to UT Dallas (15)  (Austin College lost to DePauw which plays Centre in the SCAC Finals.)
Pod C:  Thomas More at Randy Mac (18), winner to E. Mennonite (7)
Pod D:  Guilford (4), NC Wes,. Maryville, Virginia Wes. (11)  (CNU beat NCWC.)

That's 17 of the current top 25 in these 2 brackets.

[donho]

 Question:  What are the chances that the four ODAC teams get split up so as not to beat each other up so early in the tourney?
Please remember no question is a dumb question.

[Gregory Sager]

Question:  What are the chances that the four ODAC teams get split up so as not to beat each other up so early in the tourney?
Please remember no question is a dumb question.

It's not a dumb question at all. Unfortunately the answer is: Who knows? The committee will do whatever it sees fit to do. Keep in mind that financial constraints are paramount.

[donho]

 Thanks for your answer Mr. Sager.

[ziggy]

Question:  What are the chances that the four ODAC teams get split up so as not to beat each other up so early in the tourney?
Please remember no question is a dumb question.

It's not a dumb question at all. Unfortunately the answer is: Who knows? The committee will do whatever it sees fit to do. Keep in mind that financial constraints are paramount.

I think a couple got split up pretty well last year.

New projection in sig

[sac]

Question:  What are the chances that the four ODAC teams get split up so as not to beat each other up so early in the tourney?
Please remember no question is a dumb question.

I forget exactly how it reads in the manual but the committee tries to keep conference opponents from meeting in the first round as best they can.

It would be very strange (and unprecedented under the pools system) to see 3 or more ODAC teams in one 4 team pod

[fritzdis]

It would be very strange (and unprecedented under the pools system) to see 3 or more ODAC teams in one 4 team pod

I think there's no chance that will happen.  Maryville and Christopher Newport seem to be pretty obvious choices to be combined with Guilford and 1 other ODAC team.  Given that at least 4 SE PA teams (along with St. Mary's and probably Richard Stockton) are going to be in, there are a few places the remaining 2 ODAC teams can go (I suppose EMU or RMC could even host).  It would even be pretty easy to split those 2 teams into 2 different pods.

[Greek Tragedy]

MIDWEST: 16 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Wash U (1), Westminister, Central (25), Illinois Wes.
Pod B:  Whitewater (8), Carthage (16), Aurora, Gustavus/Carleton
Pod C:  Stevens Point (9), Wheaton, St Norbert (17), St. Thomas (3)
Pod D:  Wooster (19), Hope, John Carrol (24), Anderson (23)

With Carthage winning the regular and tourney CCIW, they'll host before Whitewater, who lost to Point in the WIAC tourney final.  IMO.

[John Gleich]

MIDWEST: 16 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Wash U (1), Westminister, Central (25), Illinois Wes.
Pod B:  Whitewater (8), Carthage (16), Aurora, Gustavus/Carleton
Pod C:  Stevens Point (9), Wheaton, St Norbert (17), St. Thomas (3)
Pod D:  Wooster (19), Hope, John Carrol (24), Anderson (23)

With Carthage winning the regular and tourney CCIW, they'll host before Whitewater, who lost to Point in the WIAC tourney final.  IMO.

Whitewater does have a head to head victory over Carthage... I'm not sure how much that would play into it, but it might.

[fantastic50]

I'm a bit surprised that the D3hoops projected brackets have John Carroll a pod including Wooster, despite JCU's loss in the OAC semifinals, while the Scots won the NCAC regular season and tournament.
http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/proj-mbbbracket2010.pdf

[ziggy]

I'm a bit surprised that the D3hoops projected brackets have John Carroll a pod including Wooster, despite JCU's loss in the OAC semifinals, while the Scots won the NCAC regular season and tournament.
http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/proj-mbbbracket2010.pdf

We have John Carroll and Wooster in the same pod but being hosted by Wooster. Wooster ought to be ahead in the regional rankings and probably deserves to stay home ahead of JC.

[nwhoops1903]

Sunday Redo

4 regions: WEST-SOUTH, MIDWEST, EAST and ATLANTIC

MIDWEST: 16 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Wash U (1), Westminister, Central (25), Illinois Wes.
Pod B:  Carthage (16), Whitewater (8), Aurora, Carleton
Pod C:  Stevens Point (9), Wheaton, St Norbert (17), St. Thomas (3)
Pod D:  Wooster (19), Hope, John Carrol (24), Anderson (23)

WEST-SOUTH: 13 teams, host schools in bold
Pod A:  Claremont at Chapman (12), winner to Whitworth (5)
Pod B:  Centre at UT Dallas (15), winner to MH Baylor
Pod C:  Grove City at Virginia Wes. (11), winner to Randolph Macon (17)
Pod D:  Guilford (4), CNU, Maryville, E. Mennonite (7)

That's 17 of the current top 25 in these 2 brackets.  And yes, the ODAC, because of travel restraint COULD very well stay in a 8 pod.  Doesn't mean they should.

[ziggy]

That's 17 of the current top 25 in these 2 brackets.  And yes, the ODAC, because of travel restraint COULD very well stay in a 8 pod.  Doesn't mean they should.

I would guess that if all four were split into just two pods that those pods would be split up in the bracket.

[HopeConvert]

Question:  What are the chances that the four ODAC teams get split up so as not to beat each other up so early in the tourney?
Please remember no question is a dumb question.

If nearly 20 years of teaching has taught me anything, it's that there are dumb questions. But this isn't one of them.