Potential effect of D1 conferences realignment

[Gargantuan Gull]

My guess is that if the PAC 10 goes to 16, the Big 10 follows suit and the ACC and SEC join the parade.  If that happens the ACC will lose a few to the SEC, and the SEC and ACC will then devour the Big East.  I would not be suprised to see the other conferences (CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt and Mounain West) try to follow suit picking up the leftovers from the Big East and Big 12 to reach 16 teams each to try to at least stay somewhat competitive from a television money standpoint.  As it currently stands 3 of the 4 remaining could go to 16 (64 teams from the Big 10, PAC 10, SEC and ACC and 48 teams from the other three) which would leave 10 or so teams for the last remaining conference...)  If the model proves successful it may trickle down to other divisions...

[Ralph Turner]

My guess is that if the PAC 10 goes to 16, the Big 10 follows suit and the ACC and SEC join the parade.  If that happens the ACC will lose a few to the SEC, and the SEC and ACC will then devour the Big East.  I would not be suprised to see the other conferences (CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt and Mounain West) try to follow suit picking up the leftovers from the Big East and Big 12 to reach 16 teams each to try to at least stay somewhat competitive from a television money standpoint.  As it currently stands 3 of the 4 remaining could go to 16 (64 teams from the Big 10, PAC 10, SEC and ACC and 48 teams from the other three) which would leave 10 or so teams for the last remaining conference...)  If the model proves successful it may trickle down to other divisions...

Switching divisions requires at least 5 years, so the process is not easy.

[Gargantuan Gull]

My guess is that if the PAC 10 goes to 16, the Big 10 follows suit and the ACC and SEC join the parade.  If that happens the ACC will lose a few to the SEC, and the SEC and ACC will then devour the Big East.  I would not be suprised to see the other conferences (CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt and Mounain West) try to follow suit picking up the leftovers from the Big East and Big 12 to reach 16 teams each to try to at least stay somewhat competitive from a television money standpoint.  As it currently stands 3 of the 4 remaining could go to 16 (64 teams from the Big 10, PAC 10, SEC and ACC and 48 teams from the other three) which would leave 10 or so teams for the last remaining conference...)  If the model proves successful it may trickle down to other divisions...

Switching divisions requires at least 5 years, so the process is not easy.

Didn't know that.  Are you referring to D3, or all divisions....it seems as if Nebraska is moving to the Big 10 next year or maybe 2012?

[Ralph Turner]

My guess is that if the PAC 10 goes to 16, the Big 10 follows suit and the ACC and SEC join the parade.  If that happens the ACC will lose a few to the SEC, and the SEC and ACC will then devour the Big East.  I would not be surprised to see the other conferences (CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt and Mountain West) try to follow suit picking up the leftovers from the Big East and Big 12 to reach 16 teams each to try to at least stay somewhat competitive from a television money standpoint.  As it currently stands 3 of the 4 remaining could go to 16 (64 teams from the Big 10, PAC 10, SEC and ACC and 48 teams from the other three) which would leave 10 or so teams for the last remaining conference...)  If the model proves successful it may trickle down to other divisions...

Switching divisions requires at least 5 years, so the process is not easy.

Didn't know that.  Are you referring to D3, or all divisions....it seems as if Nebraska is moving to the Big 10 next year or maybe 2012?

I need some help from some of the other experts who read these boards, but by the time that you consider dissolving existing conference obligations, exploratory years, provisional years and finally getting access to the playoffs, five years is a good round number, even longer to get to D-1.  D-2 seems to be the easiest division to join.  D-2 is actively recruiting membership.

[Just Bill]

You guys are having a miscommunication...

Gull is talking about changing conferences

Ralph is talking about changing divisions

[Ralph Turner]

You guys are having a miscommunication...

Gull is talking about changing conferences

Ralph is talking about changing divisions

Thanks, Just Bill.

I assumed that he was talking about the process as schools would move up into the other divisions.  My bad!

It does take 2-3 years for moves to take place among conferences.  DPU will take until 2012 to get fully into the NCAC.

Bard and RIT announced their move to the Liberty League 27 months in advance.

[Mr. Ypsi]

With the Big 12 now having 10 teams, while the Big Ten (which refused to change the name with 11 teams) now has 12 teams, I'm eager to see what renaming (if any) will occur!

[Ralph Turner]

With the Big 12 now having 10 teams, while the Big Ten (which refused to change the name with 11 teams) now has 12 teams, I'm eager to see what renaming (if any) will occur!

When what is left of the Big XII absorbs the Mountain West, they will have close to XII to XIV teams.


Big XII stays X.

[wildcat11]

Big XII stays X.

The NCAA dodged a major silver bullet....for now.

If we to form 4 DIII Super Conferences with football being the main factor?

NWC/ASC
OAC/CCIW
WIAC/MIAC
NJAC/E8

Any adjustments to this?

[Ralph Turner]

Big XII stays X.

The NCAA dodged a major silver bullet....for now.

If we to form 4 DIII Super Conferences with football being the main factor?

NWC/ASC
OAC/CCIW
WIAC/MIAC
NJAC/E8

Any adjustments to this?

+1 Karma, which BTW moves your total to "1492"!

Okay, who else is clamoring for recognition?

IIAC?  Pres AC? 

What case can they make?

[doolittledog]

The NCAA dodged a major silver bullet....for now.

If we to form 4 DIII Super Conferences with football being the main factor?

NWC/ASC
OAC/CCIW
WIAC/MIAC
NJAC/E8

Any adjustments to this?

+1 Karma, which BTW moves your total to "1492"!

Okay, who else is clamoring for recognition?

IIAC?  Pres AC? 

What case can they make?
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IIAC has had a team in the elite 8 each of the past 2 years.  Last year Coe was our 2nd place team and they made it to the elite 8. 

But, really, just because I want them in

[Pat Coleman]

Coe was bounced in the second round, the round of 16.

[doolittledog]

Coe was bounced in the second round, the round of 16.

Well there you go, bringing facts into the conversation

[smedindy]

Big XII stays X.

The NCAA dodged a major silver bullet....for now.

If we to form 4 DIII Super Conferences with football being the main factor?

NWC/ASC
OAC/CCIW
WIAC/MIAC
NJAC/E8

Any adjustments to this?

I think you'd break some of those leagues up. For example, the OAC / CCIW would probably need Wabash, Witt, Wooster, Allegheny and DPU and jettison five weaker sisters. Others would follow suit.

It would be anarchy, chaos and bloodletting in the streets and towns.

[Pat Coleman]

When there was a chance schools would break away and form a Division IV, there was a good likelihood we would have seen a radical amount of realignment.