NESCAC 2010

[deiscanton]

Becks--

NCAA Soccer Rule 5.5.3 covers this situation-- Multiple cards to the same player.

Rule 5.5.3 does indeed state that if the same player has a 2nd cautionable offense in the same match, the referee must first show the 2nd yellow card and then the red.

However, Rule 5.5.3 also states in the note that it is not possible for the same player in the same game to be charged with 2 cautionable offenses as the 2nd cautionable offense in the same match automatically carries a red card penalty.  Therefore, Rule 5.5.3 states that it is to be recorded on the player's accumulation record as 1 yellow and 1 red card for the match-- not 2 yellows and 1 red or 2 yellows.

[Becks]

Thanks, diescanton.  Do you have a link to the rulebook?  I've always had a hard time tracking it down in the past.  Is this from the stats manual or the regular rules manual?

[deiscanton]

Thanks, diescanton.  Do you have a link to the rulebook?  I've always had a hard time tracking it down in the past.  Is this from the stats manual or the regular rules manual?

Sure thing.

The 2010-2011 NCAA Soccer Rules Handbook can be found at:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4187-2010-2011-soccer-rules-2-year-publication.aspx

It is from the soccer rules manual how the incident should be recorded, BTW.

[2xfaux]

The rules on accumulated cards are clear, but what warrants a yellow is up to the ref.  Do you think a player or a team that has a couple yellows draws more scrutiny from refs and then more yellows etc. etc?  I have seen a handfull of D-2 games this year and it is pretty scary.  Are games officiated differently at different levels?   

[Dfense1]

I don't believe the Ephs sneak into anything...they work hard for everything they get.

The first team in NESCAC history to win back-to-back titles in 2007/2008, then set history again with their 3-peat in 2009 have been case-hardened after a brutal schedule in 2010.

I look for Williams to be tournament ready and a force to be reckoned with.

[Gerrs]

2xfaux - You raise an interesting question as to whether a player or a team that has a couple yellows draws more scrutiny from refs. I have always thought that refs did not much attention to the teams' stats, but perhaps that's not the case. It would be good if a couple of refs could weigh in on this point.

[pcc]

Gerrs I read your rebuke of my earlier post.

"Impressive total" was sarcasm.

I am not a Conn Coll fan nor do I have/had any connection to that team. My kid expressed interest a while back in the program,and soon moved on.

Conn Coll's approach this year to the game is pretty cynical.

I live minutes from Wesleyan and have attended many games there over the last 20 years, so I guess I'm a Cardinal fan.

[amh63]

hope to be at the Amh-Wes game on Sat.  Should be a critical game for both teams. 

[Gerrs]

Gerrs I read your rebuke of my earlier post.

"Impressive total" was sarcasm.

I am not a Conn Coll fan nor do I have/had any connection to that team. My kid expressed interest a while back in the program,and soon moved on.

Conn Coll's approach this year to the game is pretty cynical.

I live minutes from Wesleyan and have attended many games there over the last 20 years, so I guess I'm a Cardinal fan.

pcc -Yes, I did mistake you for a parent of a CC player but decided in any case to delete my post after only a couple minutes. I guess I was mislead by your earlier posts that went into some detail about this year's Conn College roster but did not mention any other team's roster. I also must have a bad ear for sarcasm. My bad.

[deiscanton]

Some early results today from NESCAC--  (Home team reported first)

Wesleyan 0  Amherst 2 Final   2 goals from Amherst rookie forward in first half sealed match for the Jeffs.

Tufts 0   Williams 0   Final/2 OT

Tufts and Amherst now tied for lead in NESCAC with 17 pts each--  5-1-2  in NESCAC games

Amherst holds head-to-head tiebreaker over Tufts for the #1 seed and can clinch NESCAC's top seed with a victory against Trinity (CT) on Friday.

Williams has 14 pts in NESCAC play--  4-2-2 in NESCAC games.

[Becks]

Current standings, with tiebreakers figured in:

1. Amherst 17 pts (beat Tufts) - play Trinity at home
2. Tufts 17 pts - play Bowdoin at home
3. Middlebury 14 pts - play at Williams
3. Williams 14 pts - play Middlebury at home
5. Trinity 11 pts - play at Amherst
6. Wesleyan 10 pts (beat Bowdoin) - play Conn at home
7. Bowdoin 10 pts - play at Tufts
8. Bates - 7 pts - play at Colby
9. Conn - 6 pts - play at Wesleyan
10. Colby - 3 pts- play Bates at home.

With their win today, Bowdoin has locked up a NESCAC tourney spot; and with their loss, Colby has been eliminated.  The final spot will go to either Bates or Conn.  If Bates beats Colby, Bates is in.  If Bates losses to or ties with Colby and Conn beats Wesleyan, Conn is in.

[Becks]

Tufts 0-0 Williams - Stats indicate that Williams had the better of the play and that a 2-0 Williams win might have been a fair result. Williams just not getting lucky this year so far -- seem to have outplayed the competition in most of their ties/losses.

Bowdoin 3-0 Trinity - Stats were actually pretty even, but Bowdoin was able to score on 3 of their 9 shots.   Trinity has now gone scoreless in each of their last 3 games.  Not coincidentally, Leigh Howard, Trinity's main offensive weapon, did not play in either the Bowdoin game or Trinity's midweek game.  They'll need her back and healthy in order to go anywhere in the NESCAC tournament. They'll also need to prevent their opponents from scoring on 1/3 of their shots.  Somewhat curiously, Trinity only used 2 subs all game despite being 3 down before 70 minutes in.

Middlebury 2-0 Bates - Middlebury took a ton more shots than Bates (26-6), but less than 1/4 of Midd's shots were on frame (with 1/2 being more typical), suggesting Midd was taking a lot of outside shots.  They obviously did a good job, however, limiting Bates' chances (only 6 shots, 3 on frame, and no corners).

Conn 2-1 Colby - Stats indicate a pretty even game.  Of note, each team was only called for 5 fouls and no cards were issued.

Amherst 2-0 Wesleyan - Stats indicate a deserved win for Amherst, although perhaps a one goal differential might have been more fair. Shots were pretty close (13-11), but Amherst put more on goal (10-5). Amherst's biggest advantage was in corners (10-3). They scored on a scramble off the first corner and were dangerous all day on them.

[Dfense1]

Attended the Tufts-Williams game....Williams definitely had several scoring chances carrying the play and wore the Tufts defense down as the game with on with fresh legs.

However, hand it to the Tufts defense....they never wilted under pressure and the goalie had a strong game.

[machine54]

Just seconds before selecting the winners of the Amherst/Trinity  and Midd/Williams games, Paul, the psychic octopus, passed away.

Should be quite the weekend - Midd can finish anywhere from 2 through 5.

Becks - is there both an offensive and defensive ROY ?  I realize offensive players get more pub but strong consideration to Midd defender L. Kingston - Midd lost their entire back line to graduation,  then 2/3 of their starting  '10 back line for the season prior to and during their first game v. Tufts (I know - don't cry for me Argentina/Spain/South Africa, etc) - she's a heck of a player -       

[machine54]

also - with the addition of Hamilton next year to NESCAC soccer - does anyone know if NESCAC is staying with 14 game schedule or going to 15 regular season games - thanks !!