D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[smedindy]

No, I'm not talking about ME. I didn't have St. Thomas that high. You're trying to read other's minds and assigning your rigidity to THEIR thinking. You can't have hard and fast rules here, especially when teams are so close in a conference that could have five teams fighting for the title. You're also insinuating they're not thinking critically, when they definitely could be. You don't know what the mindset of the voter who put them 12th and you're arbitrarily deciding what it is.

I'm not saying you shouldn't disagree but you're saying they're NOT taking the results into account when they definitely could be. That's my beef.

Just because I'm taking a position here doesn't mean I'm the one who voted them 12th...I definitely think that's too high.

[smedindy]

My ballot this week is chalk with the teams that wound up ranked (not the exact placements). I think it's the first time that happened.

[desertcat1]

I guess we are going to have the head scratcher debate again how teams that beat this team is ranked higher than that team...

I guess there's some that still think very highly of St. Thomas.

Like to know who is so proud of them(ST TOM) and why ? ???At 12   would be nice ? 
  Still no respect by three for WEST COAST PLU?

I'm one of the three who don't have PLU in... but to me they're not even the 2nd best team on the west coast. I think Chapman should be higher ranked than PLU. I'm surprised that so many have Pac Lutheran ranked but don't have Chapman on their ballot. Chapman's wins are against teams that are 6-8 while PLU's are against 2-13 teams. Then there's the Linfield game... both lost at home to Linfield but Chapman lost by just 7 while PLU lost by 27.

And on the St Thomas issue... I also don't have them on my ballot either.

FCG,

Sorry to hear that.    i thought MORE of your Skills? 

[Pat Coleman]

Well, aside from Northwest Conference bias/solidarity/whatever, when you look at the scores, give us the case for PLU over Chapman in 2014. I'll hang up and listen.

[D3MAFAN]

Well, aside from Northwest Conference bias/solidarity/whatever, when you look at the scores, give us the case for PLU over Chapman in 2014. I'll hang up and listen.

What he said ^^^^^

[desertcat1]

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Their is more to a game than just the score my friend,,    If you only knew...

DC1    "  the  serial smite  Himself " 

[smedindy]

Now our favorite troika of Stevens Point vs. North Central vs. Platteville is a big ol' mess...

[Pat Coleman]

Well, aside from Northwest Conference bias/solidarity/whatever, when you look at the scores, give us the case for PLU over Chapman in 2014. I'll hang up and listen.

What he said ^^^^^

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Their is more to a game than just the score my friend,,    If you only knew...

DC1    "  the  serial smite  Himself "

I feel like we know a little more today.

[02 Warhawk]

Now our favorite troika of Stevens Point vs. North Central vs. Platteville is a big ol' mess...

NCC>UWP>UWSP>NCC>UWP>UWSP, etc..... It's tough to make an argument now which team should be ranked ahead of the other. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on how these teams will fall in the top 25.

In my opinion, I don't think UWSP is that good...however I can't explain what happened in that NCC game. The three point win against UWRF is a head scratcher.

I went with:
9. NCC
11. UWP
23. UWSP

[D3MAFAN]

Now our favorite troika of Stevens Point vs. North Central vs. Platteville is a big ol' mess...

NCC>UWP>UWSP>NCC>UWP>UWSP, etc..... It's tough to make an argument now which team should be ranked ahead of the other. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on how these teams will fall in the top 25.

In my opinion, I don't think UWSP is that good...however I can't explain what happened in that NCC game. The three point win against UWRF is a head scratcher.

I went with:
9. NCC
11. UWP
23. UWSP

Yes, this situation has me in a little conundrum, maybe NCC is not as good as we think.

[USee]

Now our favorite troika of Stevens Point vs. North Central vs. Platteville is a big ol' mess...

NCC>UWP>UWSP>NCC>UWP>UWSP, etc..... It's tough to make an argument now which team should be ranked ahead of the other. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on how these teams will fall in the top 25.

In my opinion, I don't think UWSP is that good...however I can't explain what happened in that NCC game. The three point win against UWRF is a head scratcher.

I went with:
9. NCC
11. UWP
23. UWSP

Yes, this situation has me in a little conundrum, maybe NCC is not as good as we think.

And that says what about UWP? Not sure that's the solution to the "conundrum".  It should be noted the home team won each of these games. I never really think a team is "better" until they get a quality road win. None of these teams has done that yet.

[D3MAFAN]

Now our favorite troika of Stevens Point vs. North Central vs. Platteville is a big ol' mess...

NCC>UWP>UWSP>NCC>UWP>UWSP, etc..... It's tough to make an argument now which team should be ranked ahead of the other. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on how these teams will fall in the top 25.

In my opinion, I don't think UWSP is that good...however I can't explain what happened in that NCC game. The three point win against UWRF is a head scratcher.

I went with:
9. NCC
11. UWP
23. UWSP

Yes, this situation has me in a little conundrum, maybe NCC is not as good as we think.

And that says what about UWP? Not sure that's the solution to the "conundrum".  It should be noted the home team won each of these games. I never really think a team is "better" until they get a quality road win. None of these teams has done that yet.

Yes, you are correct, no solution yet.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2014 WEEK 7 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank         Team                     Points    Prev
  1)   UW-Whitewater (10)    250      1
T2)   Mary Hardin-Baylor    234     T2
T2)   Mount Union           234     T2
  4)   Wesley                219      4
  5)   Linfield              212      5
  6)   Wartburg              196      6
  7)   John Carroll          186      7
  8)   Wabash                177      8
  9)   Hobart                166      9
10)   Johns Hopkins         154     10
11)   Bethel                146     11
12)   North Central         135     12
13)   UW Platteville        125     14
14)   St John Fisher        123     13
15)   Wittenberg            109    T15
16)   Wheaton                79     18
17)   Widener                76     19
18)   Wash & Jeff            68     21
19)   St John's              60     22
20)   Concordia-Moorhead     56     23
21)   UW-Stevens Point       55    T15
22)   St Thomas              52     20
T23)   Delaware Valley        42    T24
T23)   Hampden-Sydney         42    T24
25)   Chapman                16     NR

Dropped Out: Pacific Lutheran

Also Receiving Votes: Texas Lutheran (14), Heidelberg (10), Pacific Lutheran (6), Buffalo St (3), Centre (3), Carroll (1), Pacific (1)

Voters: 02 Warhawk, D3MAFAN-MG, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HSCTiger74, Mr. Ypsi, NCF, smedindy, thewaterboy, and Upstate

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

  1)   UW-Whitewater        250      ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
T2)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   234      ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4)
T2)   Mount Union          234      ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4)
  4)   Wesley               219      ( 3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  5)
  5)   Linfield             212      ( 4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  5,  5,  5,  5,  6)
  6)   Wartburg             196      ( 5,  6,  6,  6,  6,  6,  7,  7,  7,  8)
  7)   John Carroll         186      ( 6,  6,  7,  7,  7,  7,  8,  8,  8, 10)
  8)   Wabash               177      ( 6,  6,  7,  7,  8,  9,  9, 10, 10, 11)
  9)   Hobart               166      ( 7,  8,  8,  8,  9,  9,  9,  9, 13, 14)
10)   Johns Hopkins        154      ( 8,  9,  9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11, 12, 17)
11)   Bethel               146      ( 8, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 12, 13, 13, 13)
12)   North Central        135      ( 9,  9, 10, 12, 12, 14, 14, 14, 15, 16)
13)   UW Platteville       125      (11, 12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 15, 15, 15, 15)
14)   St John Fisher       123      (12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 16, 16)
15)   Wittenberg           109      (10, 11, 11, 13, 15, 15, 16, 16, 19, 25)
16)   Wheaton               79      (10, 15, 17, 17, 17, 19, 19, 22, 22, 23)
17)   Widener               76      (12, 16, 16, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23, 23)
18)   Wash & Jeff           68      (15, 17, 17, 18, 18, 20, 20, 20, 21, --)
19)   St John's             60      (17, 17, 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 21, 22, --)
20)   Concordia-Moorhead    56      (18, 18, 18, 19, 20, 21, 21, 22, 23, 24)
21)   UW-Stevens Point      55      (14, 16, 17, 19, 21, 21, 22, 23, --, --)
22)   St Thomas             52      (13, 18, 18, 20, 20, 21, 22, 24, --, --)
T23)   Delaware Valley       42      (14, 19, 20, 21, 23, 23, 23, 24, 25, --)
T23)   Hampden-Sydney        42      (14, 18, 19, 19, 22, 24, 24, --, --, --)
25)   Chapman               16      (20, 22, 24, 24, 25, 25, --, --, --, --)

26)   Texas Lutheran        14      (20, 23, 24, 24, 25)
27)   Heidelberg            10      (16)
28)   Pacific Lutheran       6      (22, 24)
T29)   Buffalo St             3      (25, 25, 25)
T29)   Centre                 3      (23)
T31)   Carroll                1      (25)
T31)   Pacific                1      (25)

[02 Warhawk]

With the road win, I jumped on the Chapman bandwagon. I entered them in my top 25 at #24.