D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[MRMIKESMITH]

I was the one who picked Rowan, who i think deserve it after beating Wesley even after the loss to Newport. I didn't have Johns Hopkins in my 25.

I'm one of two on #10 on North Central, and #9 on Witt, and #4 on Frostburg.

I considered Rowan, but that blowout home loss to Newport weighed too much on them for my top 25. That wasn't exactly a good loss either, considering Newport is a cancelled* game away from being 4-3.

*Frostburg would have destroyed them

Not sure about that, the games have been very close over the past few years. Frostburg scored late last year to win. CNU has a great program and can win a big game at anytime, but recently lose games they should have won. Both their losses have been by 3 points to a 7-0 Salisbury and a 5-2 Montclair that loss both their games by a combined 10 points to both undefeated Frostburg and Salisbury.

[smedindy]

I was the one who picked Rowan, who i think deserve it after beating Wesley even after the loss to Newport. I didn't have Johns Hopkins in my 25.

I'm one of two on #10 on North Central, and #9 on Witt, and #4 on Frostburg.

So Frostburg, Wesley, Salisbury and Rowan all in the top 25? Kind of NJAC heavy?

I didn't mean it to work out that way...I still am not used to Wesley, Salisbury, and Frostburg IN that league.

[smedindy]

Frostburg is 12th in Massey (non-NESCAC) and Newport is 53rd. Frostburg would be favored, but it wouldn't be a stomping.

In Hansen they're 14th and 69th.

I'd put a 7 1/2 point line on it.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2018 WEEK 9 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	Points	Prev
1)	Mount Union (6)	222	1
2)	Mary Hardin-Baylor (3)	219	2
3)	Brockport	205	3
4)	St John's	196	4
5)	UW-Whitewater	187	5
6)	Frostburg St	185	6
7)	St Thomas	167	7
8)	John Carroll	157	8
9)	Hardin-Simmons	150	9
T10)	Berry	119	T13
T10)	North Central	119	T13
T10)	Whitworth	119	15
13)	Trine	104	16
14)	Illinois Wesleyan	103	12
15)	RPI	91	18
16)	Salisbury	77	22
17)	Delaware Valley	72	T20
18)	Johns Hopkins	67	T24
19)	Case Western Reserve	63	T20
20)	Wash & Jeff	52	23
21)	Linfield	36	T24
T22)	Wabash	27	NR
T22)	Wheaton	27	NR
24)	Washington U	25	NR
T25)	Bethel	24	NR
T25)	Wittenberg	24	10

Dropped Out: #11 UW-Oshkosh, #17 Muhlenberg, #19 Wesley

Also Receiving Votes: Centre 23, Muhlenberg 17, Ithaca 14, Randolph-Macon 10, Baldwin Wallace 8, Denison 4, UW-Oshkosh 4, Montclair St 3, Cortland 2, Amherst 1, Monmouth 1, Wesley 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, bluestreak66, desertcat1, FCGG, MANDGSU, Mr. Ypsi, NCF, Oline89, and smedindy

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

  1)   Mount Union          222     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2)
  2)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   219     ( 1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2)
  3)   Brockport            205     ( 3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4)
  4)   St John's            196     ( 3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  5,  5)
  5)   UW-Whitewater        187     ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  6)
  6)   Frostburg St         185     ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  6,  7)
  7)   St Thomas            167     ( 6,  7,  7,  7,  7,  8,  8,  8,  9)
  8)   John Carroll         157     ( 7,  7,  8,  8,  8,  9,  9, 10, 11)
  9)   Hardin-Simmons       150     ( 7,  8,  8,  8,  9,  9,  9, 11, 15)
T10)   Berry                119     ( 9, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 14, 16, 16)
T10)   North Central        119     ( 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 13, 15, --)
T10)   Whitworth            119     ( 7, 10, 11, 11, 12, 14, 16, 17, 17)
13)   Trine                104     (11, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 21)
14)   Illinois Wesleyan    103     ( 9, 10, 10, 10, 12, 14, 14, --, --)
15)   RPI                   91     (10, 13, 13, 15, 15, 16, 17, 18, --)
16)   Salisbury             77     (12, 13, 14, 14, 19, 19, 20, 21, 25)
17)   Delaware Valley       72     (12, 14, 17, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 24)
18)   Johns Hopkins         67     (13, 15, 15, 16, 16, 20, 23, 23, --)
19)   Case Western Reserve  63     (13, 13, 16, 19, 20, 20, 22, 22, --)
20)   Wash & Jeff           52     (18, 19, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 21, 23)
21)   Linfield              36     (15, 17, 21, 21, 22, 24, --, --, --)
T22)   Wabash                27     (19, 19, 22, 23, 23, 23, --, --, --)
T22)   Wheaton               27     (15, 18, 18, --, --, --, --, --, --)
24)   Washington U          25     (14, 17, 22, --, --, --, --, --, --)
T25)   Bethel                24     (16, 18, 24, 24, 24, --, --, --, --)
T25)   Wittenberg            24     (18, 20, 23, 24, 24, 24, 25, --, --)

27)   Centre                23     (12, 17)
28)   Muhlenberg            17     (18, 21, 23, 25)
29)   Ithaca                14     (18, 22, 24)
30)   Randolph-Macon        10     (20, 22)
31)   Baldwin Wallace        8     (19, 25)
T32)   Denison                4     (22)
T32)   UW-Oshkosh             4     (22)
34)   Montclair St           3     (23)
35)   Cortland               2     (25, 25)
T36)   Amherst                1     (25)
T36)   Monmouth               1     (25)
T36)   Wesley                 1     (25)

[02 Warhawk]

Curious if it's the same person who doesn't think much of the CCIW this year. With ILW and NCC not getting votes by someone(s).

I think there's no question they are two of the best 25 teams in the country right now. Would like to hear the argument against that.

[JCUStreaks70]

Curious if it's the same person who doesn't think much of the CCIW this year. With ILW and NCC not getting votes by someone(s).

I think there's no question they are two of the best 25 teams in the country right now. Would like to hear the argument against that.

Because I said so.... lol..

But seriously, I want to hear that as well! I think they are both easily Top 15 teams.

[desertcat1]

Curious if it's the same person who doesn't think much of the CCIW this year. With ILW and NCC not getting votes by someone(s).

I think there's no question they are two of the best 25 teams in the country right now. Would like to hear the argument against that.

Not i, said the little red hen...             #14, #15  for me..

[bluestreak66]

Curious if it's the same person who doesn't think much of the CCIW this year. With ILW and NCC not getting votes by someone(s).

I think there's no question they are two of the best 25 teams in the country right now. Would like to hear the argument against that.

Not i, said the little red hen...             #14, #15  for me..

After reviewing, I was 10 and 14!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Curious if it's the same person who doesn't think much of the CCIW this year. With ILW and NCC not getting votes by someone(s).

I think there's no question they are two of the best 25 teams in the country right now. Would like to hear the argument against that.

Not i, said the little red hen...             #14, #15  for me..

After reviewing, I was 10 and 14!

I had them 10 and 11.  Seems a little high, but I can't find anyone else I'd put above them.

[Mr. Ypsi]

My ballot is in; glad I wasn't TOO quick on the trigger!  Unless I simply read it backwards (possible), the scoreboard initially had the UST @ Gustavus score reversed.  I probably would have dropped the Tommies about 10 slots!  (I did still drop them two slots.)  NCC dropped to #16 after the Wheaton monkey-stomp, but has now risen back to #9.  And Wesley, which narrowly avoided dropping off completely after their third 1=point loss, rebounded to #20 with their defeat of previously unbeaten Salisbury.  (My gut hunch is that Wesley is still a top 15 power, who is just snake-bit this season.)

[wally_wabash]

My ballot is in; glad I wasn't TOO quick on the trigger!  Unless I simply read it backwards (possible), the scoreboard initially had the UST @ Gustavus score reversed.  I probably would have dropped the Tommies about 10 slots!  (I did still drop them two slots.)  NCC dropped to #16 after the Wheaton monkey-stomp, but has now risen back to #9.  And Wesley, which narrowly avoided dropping off completely after their third 1=point loss, rebounded to #20 with their defeat of previously unbeaten Salisbury.  (My gut hunch is that Wesley is still a top 15 power, who is just snake-bit this season.)

Snake bit implies bad luck.  Wesley can't stop turning the ball over (5 INTs today), missing extra points (missed one at the end of regulation that would have won and missed one in OT that could have cost them), and committing penalties at the absolute worst times.  They self-inflict more than any really good team that I can remember seeing.  If they cleaned up, yeah, they'd be great.  I think they've earned every bit of that 6-3 and whatever polling consequences come with it. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

My ballot is in; glad I wasn't TOO quick on the trigger!  Unless I simply read it backwards (possible), the scoreboard initially had the UST @ Gustavus score reversed.  I probably would have dropped the Tommies about 10 slots!  (I did still drop them two slots.)  NCC dropped to #16 after the Wheaton monkey-stomp, but has now risen back to #9.  And Wesley, which narrowly avoided dropping off completely after their third 1=point loss, rebounded to #20 with their defeat of previously unbeaten Salisbury.  (My gut hunch is that Wesley is still a top 15 power, who is just snake-bit this season.)

Snake bit implies bad luck.  Wesley can't stop turning the ball over (5 INTs today), missing extra points (missed one at the end of regulation that would have won and missed one in OT that could have cost them), and committing penalties at the absolute worst times.  They self-inflict more than any really good team that I can remember seeing.  If they cleaned up, yeah, they'd be great.  I think they've earned every bit of that 6-3 and whatever polling consequences come with it.

Oh, I totally agree that most of their problems are self-inflicted.  (Maybe THEY are the snake that bit them. )  I still can't get past the idea that they are MUCH better than their record says.  I try not to vote on 'gut hunch', but it probably inevitably sneaks in to a degree.  It's not like I have them top 10 like most years (same with Linfield).

[smedindy]

They may be Top 15 in talent, but not in results. Bad things are bad when you turn it over.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2018 WEEK 10 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	Points	Prev
1)	Mount Union (6)	222	1
2)	Mary Hardin-Baylor (3)	219	2
3)	Brockport	201	3
4)	St John's	196	4
5)	UW-Whitewater	191	5
6)	Frostburg St	186	6
7)	John Carroll	162	8
8)	Hardin-Simmons	158	9
9)	North Central	149	T10
10)	St Thomas	139	7
11)	Berry	128	T10
12)	Whitworth	124	T10
13)	Trine	96	13
14)	RPI	93	15
15)	Johns Hopkins	83	18
16)	Delaware Valley	80	17
17)	Wash & Jeff	67	20
18)	Case Western Reserve	66	19
19)	Illinois Wesleyan	63	14
T20)	Wabash	41	T22
T20)	Wheaton	41	T22
22)	Bethel	39	T25
23)	Linfield	35	21
24)	Centre	30	NR
25)	Wittenberg	28	T25

Dropped Out: #16 Salisbury and #24 Washington U

Also Receiving Votes: Washington U 21, Muhlenberg 16, Ithaca 13, Baldwin Wallace 10, Salisbury 9, Wesley 6, Denison 5, Montclair St 5, Cortland 2, Monmouth 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, bluestreak66, desertcat1, FCGG, MANDGSU, Mr. Ypsi, NCF, Oline89, and smedindy