D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[BoBo]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

[hazzben]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good.

Really?? I was sure Spaulding did it 1 on 11  'himself' was obviously meant in the manner of 'as well' or 'in addition too' the remarkable day for Zweifel, which is why I didn't write 'by himself.' But thanks for parsing that out for me and assuming I was a total idiot in regards to the most basic and fundamental aspect of football, namely that it's a game played with 11 guys lined up against 11 guys.

And my point about Zweifel still stands. His numbers are mind boggling, and given the other games this season and in his career, he is 'on an absolutely torrid pace'. So yeah, as my original post intimates, he is putting together a remarkable season and career.

The condescending nature of your post just strikes me as totally unnecessary and uncalled for. Yeesh!

[hazzben]

Muskingum loses, see this is why most of us did not rank them. 

What is interesting here is that unless Mount gets upset by someone, the OAC's 2nd place team will be no better than 8-2. Makes things a little more interesting for the Pool C discussion. Throw in the WIAC's typical craziness, the IIAC carnage today, CCIW with IWU still to play NCC, the NJAC's possible finish and this could be one of the most unpredictable/controversial Pool C years we've had in a while.

But at least the Fan Poll got easier...oh, wait. 

ASC and SCIAC are in line to get Pool C bids.

I wasn't implying the ASC and SCIAC wouldn't be in the Pool C race, merely listing a couple of conference races that have the potential of getting really crazy down the stretch. The MIAC could be included in this list as well.

[Ralph Turner]

Muskingum loses, see this is why most of us did not rank them. 

What is interesting here is that unless Mount gets upset by someone, the OAC's 2nd place team will be no better than 8-2. Makes things a little more interesting for the Pool C discussion. Throw in the WIAC's typical craziness, the IIAC carnage today, CCIW with IWU still to play NCC, the NJAC's possible finish and this could be one of the most unpredictable/controversial Pool C years we've had in a while.

But at least the Fan Poll got easier...oh, wait. 

ASC and SCIAC are in line to get Pool C bids.

I wasn't implying the ASC and SCIAC wouldn't be in the Pool C race, merely listing a couple of conference races that have the potential of getting really crazy down the stretch. The MIAC could be included in this list as well.

Please understand, as the poster from the southwestern realm of D3, I wanted to bring those conferences to the discussion.

I also think that the NJAC, the MIAC and the E8 are on the short list for Pool C.

By that I mean that those conferences should have 2 teams in the Regional Rankings, from which Pool C is taken.

[retagent]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

I know what you meant Hazz. Sometimes those WIACers are a little slow on such things. They're good guys, but think they know a little more than you. All because UWW starts winning. Don't take it personally. And by the way, by take, I don't mean "steal" or "pilfer."

[hazzben]

Muskingum loses, see this is why most of us did not rank them. 

What is interesting here is that unless Mount gets upset by someone, the OAC's 2nd place team will be no better than 8-2. Makes things a little more interesting for the Pool C discussion. Throw in the WIAC's typical craziness, the IIAC carnage today, CCIW with IWU still to play NCC, the NJAC's possible finish and this could be one of the most unpredictable/controversial Pool C years we've had in a while.

But at least the Fan Poll got easier...oh, wait. 

ASC and SCIAC are in line to get Pool C bids.

I wasn't implying the ASC and SCIAC wouldn't be in the Pool C race, merely listing a couple of conference races that have the potential of getting really crazy down the stretch. The MIAC could be included in this list as well.

Please understand, as the poster from the southwestern realm of D3, I wanted to bring those conferences to the discussion.

I also think that the NJAC, the MIAC and the E8 are on the short list for Pool C.

By that I mean that those conferences should have 2 teams in the Regional Rankings, from which Pool C is taken.

Totally agree. I think the playoff discussion could be even more fun than usual this year!

[hazzben]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

I know what you meant Hazz. Sometimes those WIACers are a little slow on such things. They're good guys, but think they know a little more than you. All because UWW starts winning. Don't take it personally. And by the way, by take, I don't mean "steal" or "pilfer."

Nice! Made me laugh and got me out of my cranky mood. Didn't hurt that Nebraska remembered how to play football in the second half either. Which might also explain why I was so sensitive with BoBo to start with, since they looked like a flag football team in the first half when I was responding to him

[BoBo]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

I know what you meant Hazz. Sometimes those WIACers are a little slow on such things. They're good guys, but think they know a little more than you. All because UWW starts winning. Don't take it personally. And by the way, by take, I don't mean "steal" or "pilfer."

You guys are works of art. I know exactly what hazzben was trying to say, retagent. Once again, it had nothing to do with you - but once again you're johnny on the spot (no pun intended). Fact remains, with little Z, I was just trying to point out that he's been doing this for A LONG TIME, his entire career...a torid pace would indicate a period of time that included a few games. Didn't know if you were as familiar with his River Falls period in the distant past as you seem to be with the present at UD. Questioning my post as condescending is like the pot calling the kettle black, however.  And I will not stand for it!!

(no I'm not really mad, that's just in response to the pathetic  "Yeesh!")

[smedindy]

Can't we all just get along? Pert near every conference is a mess right now. There could realistically be a two-loss "C".

[Ralph Turner]

Can't we all just get along? Pert near every conference is a mess right now. There could realistically be a two-loss "C".

And a "B" getting a "C"

[hazzben]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

I know what you meant Hazz. Sometimes those WIACers are a little slow on such things. They're good guys, but think they know a little more than you. All because UWW starts winning. Don't take it personally. And by the way, by take, I don't mean "steal" or "pilfer."

You guys are works of art. I know exactly what hazzben was trying to say, retagent. Once again, it had nothing to do with you - but once again you're johnny on the spot (no pun intended). Fact remains, with little Z, I was just trying to point out that he's been doing this for A LONG TIME, his entire career...a torid pace would indicate a period of time that included a few games. Didn't know if you were as familiar with his River Falls period in the distant past as you seem to be with the present at UD. Questioning my post as condescending is like the pot calling the kettle black, however.  And I will not stand for it!!

(no I'm not really mad, that's just in response to the pathetic  "Yeesh!")

You are correct, I condescended to your condescension. Guilty as charged 

[BoBo]

Zweifel's numbers are just mind boggling. 18 receptions for 259 and 2 TD's. He is just on an absolutely torrid pace. And their RB Spaulding rushed for almost 200 yds and 2 TD's himself.

I've learned from watching football that a RB doesn't rush for almost 200 yards or score 2 TD's by themselves. It takes at least 10 other guys on offense doing their jobs, as well. Plus Zweifel's career is full of games like this, first at River Falls and now at UD. I, for one, have come to expect games like this from him (and not because the kid's from Whitewater!) - he's good. I guess he also played both ways and had an INT of defense.

I know what you meant Hazz. Sometimes those WIACers are a little slow on such things. They're good guys, but think they know a little more than you. All because UWW starts winning. Don't take it personally. And by the way, by take, I don't mean "steal" or "pilfer."

You guys are works of art. I know exactly what hazzben was trying to say, retagent. Once again, it had nothing to do with you - but once again you're johnny on the spot (no pun intended). Fact remains, with little Z, I was just trying to point out that he's been doing this for A LONG TIME, his entire career...a torid pace would indicate a period of time that included a few games. Didn't know if you were as familiar with his River Falls period in the distant past as you seem to be with the present at UD. Questioning my post as condescending is like the pot calling the kettle black, however.  And I will not stand for it!!

(no I'm not really mad, that's just in response to the pathetic  "Yeesh!")

You are correct, I condescended to your condescension. Guilty as charged 

[retagent]

You know me too well BoBo.

It takes a while, but getting the spirit in which these little back-and-forth things are done is half the fun. Sometimes it does involve understanding each other. +k to you both for "getting it."

[smedindy]

Mine's in, and the bottom of mine are full of teams I'd never have considered before the season.

And I had to leave off a couple of teams worthy of mention.

[Ralph Turner]

Mine is in.