D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[smedindy]

Missing some voters but it was an exciting week, of course!

[bleedpurple]

Yes, hopefully we can get the voters back next week and carry it on through the Stagg. It will be interesting to see how a playoff win or loss affects votes.

[K-Mack]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

[smedindy]

We don't have a point of reference. If they added just ONE game, even with the ECFC or the NEFC, then we'd have some point of reference. That's my issue and why I can't seem to vote for a NESCAC team.

[Mr. Ypsi]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

[BoBo]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

I don't vote in this poll, but if I did, I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC football team, either.      I wonder who cast the single vote for Amherst?  Step forward please and explain!!   

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

I don't vote in this poll, but if I did, I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC football team, either.      I wonder who cast the single vote for Amherst?  Step forward please and explain!!   

T'was I who cast the nefarious vote.
Are there at least 25 teams better than them (or St Scholastica who I had 24th)... probably. But I don't care if you're playing a middle school team every week, if you win every game in the season then that deserves a slight bit of recognition. Any given Saturday and all that. I wouldn't put them any higher than the bottom slots, but I still feel they deserve a little love

[BoBo]

^^ Oops, sorry Grad.  I thought it was going to be someone else. Thanks for your explanation. +k

[Mr. Ypsi]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

I don't vote in this poll, but if I did, I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC football team, either.      I wonder who cast the single vote for Amherst?  Step forward please and explain!!   

T'was I who cast the nefarious vote.
Are there at least 25 teams better than them (or St Scholastica who I had 24th)... probably. But I don't care if you're playing a middle school team every week, if you win every game in the season then that deserves a slight bit of recognition. Any given Saturday and all that. I wouldn't put them any higher than the bottom slots, but I still feel they deserve a little love

Your sentiments are admirable, but (IMO) misguided.  I believe the current number of d3 football teams is 239.  All we know about Amherst is that they are somewhere between #1 and #232.

I suspect they are closer to #1 than #232, but they have chosen not to let us know that information.  Therefore, they are simply irrelevant to a d3 calculation.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Your sentiments are admirable, but (IMO) misguided.  I believe the current number of d3 football teams is 239.  All we know about Amherst is that they are somewhere between #1 and #232.

I suspect they are closer to #1 than #232, but they have chosen not to let us know that information.  Therefore, they are simply irrelevant to a d3 calculation.

Well isn't that's the whole point of the poll... to suspect where a team should be ranked?
They're a d3 school playing in a conference of other d3 schools and the d3football site covers them. Not only that but the d3football poll has given Amherst 22 points which is good for 29th and conference runnerup Trinity 3 points.
I'm not saying I'd move them up in the top 10 or 15 or anything, but when out of 239 teams only 10 can say they made it through the regular season without a loss, that deserves one or two votes in the poll from me. Once St Scholastica loses by 40 this weekend they'll drop out of my poll I'm sure. I'll have to see how things play out whether or not Amherst drops out too.

[bleedpurple]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

I don't vote in this poll, but if I did, I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC football team, either.      I wonder who cast the single vote for Amherst?  Step forward please and explain!!   

T'was I who cast the nefarious vote.
Are there at least 25 teams better than them (or St Scholastica who I had 24th)... probably. But I don't care if you're playing a middle school team every week, if you win every game in the season then that deserves a slight bit of recognition. Any given Saturday and all that. I wouldn't put them any higher than the bottom slots, but I still feel they deserve a little love

Your sentiments are admirable, but (IMO) misguided.  I believe the current number of d3 football teams is 239.  All we know about Amherst is that they are somewhere between #1 and #232.

I suspect they are closer to #1 than #232, but they have chosen not to let us know that information.  Therefore, they are simply irrelevant to a d3 calculation.

OK, maybe we can figure this out together. While Amherst's primary color is purple (of course), I am willing to go out on a limb and say they should not be ranked with the Purple Powers in the Top 2. We are now down to between #3 and #232. Anyone willing to narrow it further? 

And this was not without seeing them play either, I watched a grand total of one play from 2010 on Youtube 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f91lF9k47E

"OH YEAHHHH"   

[BoBo]

It's bizarre how an undefeated team from the academically elite NCAC, SCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, LL or UAA can crack the top 15 (8, 9, 12, 13, 16 in your latest) but Amherst gets one vote.

They have to be made up of similar athletes, no? I guess lack of top 25 love is going to be the NESCAC's pennance for starting late and not playing non-con forever.

We should really look into making them ineligible for the poll, that way no one has to bother (and clearly some don't).

In football, they (by their own choice) simply are not d3.

Since they have chosen to just play intramurals, who the hell knows if Amherst is truly good or simply a 'tall dwarf'?

I respect them in every other sport, but in football I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC team.

I don't vote in this poll, but if I did, I would NEVER vote for a NESCAC football team, either.      I wonder who cast the single vote for Amherst?  Step forward please and explain!!   

T'was I who cast the nefarious vote.
Are there at least 25 teams better than them (or St Scholastica who I had 24th)... probably. But I don't care if you're playing a middle school team every week, if you win every game in the season then that deserves a slight bit of recognition. Any given Saturday and all that. I wouldn't put them any higher than the bottom slots, but I still feel they deserve a little love

Your sentiments are admirable, but (IMO) misguided.  I believe the current number of d3 football teams is 239.  All we know about Amherst is that they are somewhere between #1 and #232.

I suspect they are closer to #1 than #232, but they have chosen not to let us know that information.  Therefore, they are simply irrelevant to a d3 calculation.

OK, maybe we can figure this out together. While Amherst's primary color is purple (of course), I am willing to go out on a limb and say they should not be ranked with the Purple Powers in the Top 2. We are now down to between #3 and #232. Anyone willing to narrow it further? 

And this was not without seeing them play either, I watched a grand total of one play from 2010 on Youtube 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f91lF9k47E

"OH YEAHHHH"   

I think you have to rank Trinity higher based on that one play.  So, I can narrow it even further to #4 and #232!! 

[bleedpurple]

Here are the combined score predictions of the D3 Top 25 Poll Panel of those who submitted predictions for the first round. Only a handful of people replied, but here's where we combined to land:

UW-W  48
Albion    7

Franklin           30
Thomas More   24

Kean                         27
Christopher Newport  14

Salisbury                         51
Western New England      16

St. Thomas               48
St. Scholastica           6

Illinois Wesleyan       28
Monmouth                20

Johns Hopkins          31
St. John Fisher         21

Delaware Valley      42
Norwich                    7

Mary Hardin-Baylor    45
Redlands                   24

McMurry               31
Trinity                  27

Linfield                34
Cal Lutheran        27

Wesley               35
Hobart                13

Wabash              38
Illinois College    13

North Central      35
Dubuque            17

Centre                    30
Hampden-Sydney   21

Mount Union      52
Benedictine         3

[SUADC]

Here are the combined score predictions of the D3 Top 25 Poll Panel of those who submitted predictions for the first round. Only a handful of people replied, but here's where we combined to land:

UW-W  48
Albion    7

Franklin           30
Thomas More   24

Kean                         27
Christopher Newport  14

Salisbury                         51
Western New England      16

St. Thomas               48
St. Scholastica           6

Illinois Wesleyan       28
Monmouth                20

Johns Hopkins          31
St. John Fisher         21

Delaware Valley      42
Norwich                    7

Mary Hardin-Baylor    45
Redlands                   24

McMurry               31
Trinity                  27

Linfield                34
Cal Lutheran        27

Wesley               35
Hobart                13

Wabash              38
Illinois College    13

North Central      35
Dubuque            17

Centre                    30
Hampden-Sydney   21

Mount Union      52
Benedictine         3

I like it.  +K

[bleedpurple]

Only 8 on the panel submitted ballots this week, but for what it's worth:

D3 TOP 25 FAN POLL

1. Wisconsin-Whitewater (8)            200          1(LW)
2. Mount Union                                191          2
3. St. Thomas                                  179          3
4. Mary Hardin-Baylor                      177          4
5. Linfield                                        171          5
6. North Central                               159          6
7. Wesley                                        152          7
8. Wabash                                       144          8
9. Delaware Valley                           129          10
10. Salisbury                                    115         11
11. McMurry                                     100         18
12. Kean                                            96         17
13. California Lutheran                        92          9
14. Franklin                                        83         20
15. Centre                                          74         unranked
16. Bethel                                          66         21
17. St. John Fisher                              65        unranked
18. Monmouth                                    63        unranked
19. Johns Hopkins                               39        12
20. Trinity                                           37        16
21(t). Illinois Wesleyan                       33        14
21 (t) Redlands                                   33        13
23. Montclair State                              30        23
24. Cortland State                               19        unranked
25 (t) Baldwin-Wallace                        17        24
25 (t)  Hampden-Sydney                     17        unranked

Dropped Out of Top 25: Thomas More, Dubuque, Wisconsin-Oshkosh

Also Receiving Votes:  Dubuque (16), Thomas More (15), Wisconsin-Oshkosh (8), Louisiana College (3), Wittenberg (3), Amherst (1).