D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[NCF]

ok which one of U  put NCC 2nd???  HOW    ..  can you put them ahead of UMHB  who played (held ) the NATIONAL CHAMPION  to a one point victory?  in the semi game?   Please justify?   

Better yet, how can they put them ahead of a team they lost to (mount)?

NCF?

Nope, not me. I had them 6th with Wesley ahead of them and Bethel right behind.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Since we're down to just two by process of elimination (can I blame it on smed?) I'll cop to it. I went NCC at 2, UMHB 3, Mount 4

First, I don't place quite the emphasis on the playoffs as I think others do (neither Wesley (9) nor SJF (10) were in my top 8) as I keep it based on the full body of work.

Second, North Central got their only loss on the road to a top 5 team by a single point and they lead with a little over a minute left. That result in no way proves to me Mount is the better team. Looking at the full season I'm far more impressed by NCC (no win by less than 2 scores including over @IWU, @Wheaton, Platteville, @ Bethel) compared to Mount (who had to survive 1 score games against Franklin, John Carroll, Wesley, North Central and then were blown out by Whitewater). Honestly I'm quite surprised I'm the only person to have NCC in the top 3.

[K-Mack]

Since we're down to just two by process of elimination (can I blame it on smed?) I'll cop to it. I went NCC at 2, UMHB 3, Mount 4

First, I don't place quite the emphasis on the playoffs as I think others do (neither Wesley (9) nor SJF (10) were in my top 8) as I keep it based on the full body of work.

Second, North Central got their only loss on the road to a top 5 team by a single point and they lead with a little over a minute left. That result in no way proves to me Mount is the better team. Looking at the full season I'm far more impressed by NCC (no win by less than 2 scores including over @IWU, @Wheaton, Platteville, @ Bethel) compared to Mount (who had to survive 1 score games against Franklin, John Carroll, Wesley, North Central and then were blown out by Whitewater). Honestly I'm quite surprised I'm the only person to have NCC in the top 3.

Interesting theory, the full body of work. But playoffs or not, UMHB, Linfield and Mount Union all played other top teams and were very good, and had the common result with UW-Whitewater to sway things. The Stagg Bowl changed NCC from a 2/3 team on my ballot to 5, and through no fault of their own.

Mount Union may have "survived" all those games, but they led John Carroll 35-13 and Wesley 31-0, so you could also make the argument that those games weren't as close as their final scores. Also the Heidelberg game followed a similar track.

In the end, UMU beat NCC head to head, and for me to go against an h2h result, there'd have to be something else really compelling going on. Certainly I've done it before, but UMU beat NCC, Wesley, John Carroll, Franklin, Wittenberg, Heidelberg and W&J, and lost to UW-W, which I think is a 6-1 mark against other teams on my ballot (no W&J). Pretty tough.

I finished with UWW, UMHB, Linfield, UMU and NCC as the top five. The Stagg Bowl really swayed how I viewed the previous weeks.

[K-Mack]

even though to some degree it was a game that got away from UMU.

[02 Warhawk]

Since we're down to just two by process of elimination (can I blame it on smed?) I'll cop to it. I went NCC at 2, UMHB 3, Mount 4

First, I don't place quite the emphasis on the playoffs as I think others do (neither Wesley (9) nor SJF (10) were in my top 8) as I keep it based on the full body of work.

Second, North Central got their only loss on the road to a top 5 team by a single point and they lead with a little over a minute left. That result in no way proves to me Mount is the better team. Looking at the full season I'm far more impressed by NCC (no win by less than 2 scores including over @IWU, @Wheaton, Platteville, @ Bethel) compared to Mount (who had to survive 1 score games against Franklin, John Carroll, Wesley, North Central and then were blown out by Whitewater). Honestly I'm quite surprised I'm the only person to have NCC in the top 3.

Very interesting thought process. If that NCC/Mount game didn't indicate that Mount was the better team to you. What made you think NCC was then the better team....even though they lost? Was it just because they lead most of the game? For what it's worth, Mount held the better SOS during the season, 112 to 84.

Like Keith, I to think head-to-head games are very compelling when indicating who is better.

Thanks for doing this, looking forward to next season.

[02 Warhawk]

Time to start putting our poll together I assume? I'll probably wait till kickoff comes out to put mine together. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Time to start putting our poll together I assume? I'll probably wait till kickoff comes out to put mine together.

No way would I start before then.  The d3 football poll is a start, but I want more detail!  (And, hopefully, reason to move IWU from 27 into the top 25.)

[02 Warhawk]

Time to start putting our poll together I assume? I'll probably wait till kickoff comes out to put mine together.

No way would I start before then.  The d3 football poll is a start, but I want more detail!  (And, hopefully, reason to move IWU from 27 into the top 25.)

Exactly, I won't even study d3's poll....I don't want to be influenced by it.

[D3MAFAN]

Time to start putting our poll together I assume? I'll probably wait till kickoff comes out to put mine together.

Likewise.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

You can start putting your poll together anytime you'd like. I probably won't make the official announcement until August 1st (which is when I start getting ready for the season and pickems and such) but I think Aug 31st would be a good target for the preseason poll. Hopefully we'll manage to hit at least 10 ballots on a consistent basis this season. Go badger your fellow posters and get them to vote

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

The weather (at least around here) has been very September the past month so it's time for FOOTBALL!

If you're interested in being part of the Fan Poll this year just send me a PM. Ballots are due on Tuesdays during the season. If you need extra time or know you won't be able to get a ballot in that particular week please let me know as soon as you can. The earlier you submit a ballot the more time I'll have to check it and make sure you didn't make any errors or forget a team.

If you're in the south or east regions I strongly hope you'll join. There's usually a low turnout from those areas.

Preseason ballots are due Sunday August 31st.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2 weeks left until ballots are due and I've only had 6 confirmed participants. Still plenty of room for anyone who would like to be part of the poll. Just send me a PM to let me know.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

With Kickoff being released today don't forget to start getting those ballots in. Preseason ballots are due Sunday.

Still sitting at 6 confirmed balloteers. Anyone can join so get those ballots together and have your voice heard

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I've received ballots now from all 7 who were around at the end of last season. I'm going to go spam inquire in the east and south boards and see if we can't get a couple more involved from those areas.

Edit: Feelers have been put out in the east and south regional poll boards, plus ASC, E8, ODAC, SCIAC, and USAC. Hopefully there's some interest so we can both have more ballots and be more spread out. If anyone thinks any other boards would be a good recruiting ground feel free to try to drum up interest. I just didn't want to spam 30 boards with the same message if there wasn't much activity.

I'd like to get the preseason poll up by the 31st, but if I get some interest I can delay things a couple days. Be sure to PM me if you're interested

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I'm happy to report that I've received interest from 3 new individuals so far. If everyone manages to stick around that would mean we're up to 10 ballots. That has to be some kind of record for the Fan Poll I think