D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

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emma17

Exciting weekend of games coming up as 8 of the top 10 play teams with only 11 losses combined.  3 of those 11 losses belong to UWSP, a team that has proven to be a tough out. 

wally_wabash

Quote from: emma17 on October 20, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Exciting weekend of games coming up as 8 of the top 10 play teams with only 11 losses combined.  3 of those 11 losses belong to UWSP, a team that has proven to be a tough out.

I don't think we can say this inside of the same season that UW-SP had Albion hang a 60 burger on them.  Albion is pretty good (probably), but still.  60, man.  If Oshkosh loses to the Pointers, Oshkosh screwed up. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 20, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Exciting weekend of games coming up as 8 of the top 10 play teams with only 11 losses combined.  3 of those 11 losses belong to UWSP, a team that has proven to be a tough out.

I don't think we can say this inside of the same season that UW-SP had Albion hang a 60 burger on them.  Albion is pretty good (probably), but still.  60, man.  If Oshkosh loses to the Pointers, Oshkosh screwed up.

Considering that Oshkosh already beat the Pointers last weekend, I would agree. 

If they lose to the Pointers this weekend, they drove to the wrong field!
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

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ExTartanPlayer

Giving a serious answer, though, I do think you can say UWSP is a tough out.  They took Platteville to OT and led Oshkosh in the second half last week.  UWW does have to take them seriously.

I'm actually looking at the Albion-UWSP result more as a sign that "maybe Albion is pretty good and the MIAA is tougher than we think" instead of a sign that UWSP isn't really that good.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

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02 Warhawk

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 20, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Exciting weekend of games coming up as 8 of the top 10 play teams with only 11 losses combined.  3 of those 11 losses belong to UWSP, a team that has proven to be a tough out.

I don't think we can say this inside of the same season that UW-SP had Albion hang a 60 burger on them.  Albion is pretty good (probably), but still.  60, man.  If Oshkosh loses to the Pointers, Oshkosh screwed up.

Oshkosh almost did lose to the Pointers...it was close until the 4th when UWO finally pulled away. I'm guessing the Albion game was a wake-up call for UWSP.

I have a fealing UWW will struggle against them on Saturday.

wally_wabash

My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

02 Warhawk

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again.

Win or lose this weekend, I don't think Whitewater is Whitewater this year. There seems to be a bit of a learning curve between players and the new coaches. Also, injuries are the worse I've ever seen them in the 15+ years that I've been following them. RBs, Oline, Dline, WR, etc, etc.... We were down to our 5th RB on our depth chart last week. Unreal. They need to get healthy and get their confidence back.

Seasons like these makes you really appreciate what they've accomplished over the years.

jknezek

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 20, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
Seasons like these makes you really appreciate what they've accomplished over the years.

+K. If I could give you more than one I would. Because from an insider, it's been incredible and I think it takes a season like this for those who have "grown up" with it, to realize how ludicrous UWW has been.

emma17

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again.

But can we get you to agree- yes UWSP has proven to be a tough out?

emma17

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 20, 2015, 04:35:46 PM
Giving a serious answer, though, I do think you can say UWSP is a tough out.  They took Platteville to OT and led Oshkosh in the second half last week.  UWW does have to take them seriously.

I'm actually looking at the Albion-UWSP result more as a sign that "maybe Albion is pretty good and the MIAA is tougher than we think" instead of a sign that UWSP isn't really that good.

I think we have to give Albion the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
UWSP has played both UWP and UWO incredibly tough and as such we should all feel comfortable in saying they are a good team. Not only have they nearly beaten both teams, they've held both well under season averages.
As such, I think the thought process is to consider the Albion game as the oddity. Not that Albion won, but that the score was so high.  UWSP gave up over 380 yards rushing and UWSP threw the ball 57 times. Neither of these numbers reflect the way or style UWSP is playing of late.
Maybe they started the season thinking they wanted to be one thing but ran into a team much more talented than expected that exposed all kinds of weaknesses, forcing them to reconsider.
Hopefully Albion will continue to roll and represent the conference well into the playoffs.

DBQ1965

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 20, 2015, 04:35:46 PM
Giving a serious answer, though, I do think you can say UWSP is a tough out.  They took Platteville to OT and led Oshkosh in the second half last week.  UWW does have to take them seriously.

I'm actually looking at the Albion-UWSP result more as a sign that "maybe Albion is pretty good and the MIAA is tougher than we think" instead of a sign that UWSP isn't really that good.

I plan on seeing the Albion - Olivet game in another week.  That is the strength of the MIAA this year ... two "good" teams in a not so good conference.  I don't see the MIAA champ advancing past round one unless they get a really lucky draw.
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: DBQ1965 on October 20, 2015, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 20, 2015, 04:35:46 PM
Giving a serious answer, though, I do think you can say UWSP is a tough out.  They took Platteville to OT and led Oshkosh in the second half last week.  UWW does have to take them seriously.

I'm actually looking at the Albion-UWSP result more as a sign that "maybe Albion is pretty good and the MIAA is tougher than we think" instead of a sign that UWSP isn't really that good.

I plan on seeing the Albion - Olivet game in another week.  That is the strength of the MIAA this year ... two "good" teams in a not so good conference.  I don't see the MIAA champ advancing past round one unless they get a really lucky draw.

I don't think it will even require a 'lucky' draw, just a fair one.  The winner of Albion/Olivet should finish the season 10-0, and, despite the MIAA, probably deserves a 4 or 5 seed (though of course I'd have to see who they are up against in the 'regional' bracket), not the typical 7 or 8 seed of the MIAA AQ.  Both are in my North region top ten, though neither has yet cracked my national top 25.

smedindy

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again.

We do know that coaching at Buffalo isn't like coaching at Whitewater. (Nor is EMU like coaching at Wabash). I don't think Lance likes losing 51-14 to a directional Michigan.
Wabash Always Fights!

wally_wabash

Quote from: emma17 on October 20, 2015, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again.

But can we get you to agree- yes UWSP has proven to be a tough out?

Sure, when we can get you agree that good teams exist in leagues that you think stink otherwise.  I see you kinda sorta gave Albion some credit.  It's amazing what we can see when we analyze teams and not simply the league they come out of. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: smedindy on October 20, 2015, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 20, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
My bad.  Edit to say:

If Whitewater loses to UW-SP this week, Whitewater screwed up.  Or Whitewater perhaps isn't Whitewater, again.

We do know that coaching at Buffalo isn't like coaching at Whitewater. (Nor is EMU like coaching at Wabash). I don't think Lance likes losing 51-14 to a directional Michigan.

And I doubt Chris Creighton likes being 1-6! :o

We'd just like to be mediocre for a change.  We know that if we are really good, some big-name school will just 'steal' the coach anyway, but mediocre would be a nice change of pace! :P  [EMU: where big-time hopes go to die.]