D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

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Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat

What will happen to the winner of the Linfield/MHB game as far as rankings go? What about the loser?  #3 vs #5 is a compelling matchup that I'm not sure we've seen in recent years in D3 (if ever during the regular season).




wally_wabash

Quote from: Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat on September 14, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
What will happen to the winner of the Linfield/MHB game as far as rankings go? What about the loser?  #3 vs #5 is a compelling matchup that I'm not sure we've seen in recent years in D3 (if ever during the regular season).

My guess is basically nothing.  A win for Linfield probably siphons off a few first place votes from Mount Union, but not enough to leapfrog all the way to #1.  A win for UMHB probably gets them a couple of Linfield's first place votes, and they'd go up a spot, maybe two.  For the loser, I don't think there's too far to fall.  D3football.com top 25 voters aren't overly punitive when losing to a member of the division's upper crust.  UMHB wouldn't fall any lower than 6th I think.  Linfield probably wouldn't fall lower than 5th. 

Unless the margin is really high.  Then you might see a little more movement- like if UMHB loses by 40 on their own field, they might slip down behind UWO and Wheaton but probably not too much further, iyam. 
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jknezek

Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.

Hawks88

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Quote from: jknezek on September 14, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.
That was 2013, right? They dropped from 5 to 11. That was d3football poll not the fan poll. The drop was 5 to 13 on the fan poll.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 14, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.
That was 2013, right? They dropped from 5 to 11. That was d3football poll not the fan poll. The drop was 5 to 13 on the fan poll.

At least that was less than the plunge they took from losing to DelVal this season! ;)  (I didn't drop them nearly as much as some: they're now 14 on my ballot.)

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 14, 2016, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 14, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.
That was 2013, right? They dropped from 5 to 11. That was d3football poll not the fan poll. The drop was 5 to 13 on the fan poll.

At least that was less than the plunge they took from losing to DelVal this season! ;)  (I didn't drop them nearly as much as some: they're now 14 on my ballot.)

That begs the question: Is DelVay 13 or higher in your rankings, then?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 15, 2016, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 14, 2016, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 14, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.
That was 2013, right? They dropped from 5 to 11. That was d3football poll not the fan poll. The drop was 5 to 13 on the fan poll.

At least that was less than the plunge they took from losing to DelVal this season! ;)  (I didn't drop them nearly as much as some: they're now 14 on my ballot.)

That begs the question: Is DelVay 13 or higher in your rankings, then?

I have DelVal at #13.  My hunch is that Wesley will finish the season ranked higher than DelVal, but doing so now would be rather presumptuous of me! ;)

wally_wabash

Clearly, I am not a voter.  Thought that Linfield's movement was a bit of an over reaction.  I know they got crushed down in Belton, but I think LC is multiple scores better than (at least) the three teams above them.  Shouldn't take too long for Linfield to get back to the top 5 though.  In the next few weeks, there are three h2h games between six of the eight teams ahead of Linfield.   
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Ralph Turner

Mount Union's 6 non-first-place votes show some weakness and what I would guess include two seconds, three thirds and a fourth or one second and five thirds.  I have a hard time  imaging they received a 5th place vote or lower.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 19, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
Clearly, I am not a voter.  Thought that Linfield's movement was a bit of an over reaction.  I know they got crushed down in Belton, but I think LC is multiple scores better than (at least) the three teams above them.  Shouldn't take too long for Linfield to get back to the top 5 though.  In the next few weeks, there are three h2h games between six of the eight teams ahead of Linfield.   
The Linfield result reminded me of the video game where one warrior strikes a major artery and the blood just starts spewing everywhere. Yes they lost, but it looks worse than it actually was. UMHB just got on a roll.

smedindy

I have them under St. John's, for now. We will definitely see the relative strength of the Tommies and the Johnnies Saturday.
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 15, 2016, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 15, 2016, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 14, 2016, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 14, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Anyone remember how far Wesley fell after the beating on the Cruthedrals opening night? I don't remember it being very far... So that's a good indicator.
That was 2013, right? They dropped from 5 to 11. That was d3football poll not the fan poll. The drop was 5 to 13 on the fan poll.

At least that was less than the plunge they took from losing to DelVal this season! ;)  (I didn't drop them nearly as much as some: they're now 14 on my ballot.)

That begs the question: Is DelVay 13 or higher in your rankings, then?

I have DelVal at #13.  My hunch is that Wesley will finish the season ranked higher than DelVal, but doing so now would be rather presumptuous of me! ;)

OOPS!  Wesley has now dropped totally out of my Top 25. ::)  Though probably #26.

I moved UMHB to #2, and only dropped Linfield to #6.

FCGrizzliesGrad

We're one voter short this week due to family issues. We should be back up to 9 next week

2016 WEEK 3 TOP 25 FAN POLL

   #             School                         Pts    Prev 

  1)   Mount Union (4)         194     1
  2)   Mary Hardin-Baylor (3)  191     5
  3)   St Thomas (1)           186     3
  4)   UW-Whitewater           181     4
  5)   UW-Oshkosh              168     6
  6)   St John's               156     7
  7)   Linfield                145     2
  8)   Wheaton                 135     8
T9)   Hardin-Simmons          127    12
T9)   UW-Platteville          127     9
11)   North Central           120    10
12)   Johns Hopkins           118    11
13)   Wabash                  107    13
14)   Delaware Valley         101    14
T15)   Salisbury                80    17
T15)   St John Fisher           80    21
17)   E Texas Baptist          60    18
18)   Thomas More              50   T19
19)   Franklin                 47   T19
20)   Huntingdon               37   T23
21)   Christopher Newport      24    NR
22)   Dubuque                  23   T25
23)   Hobart                   21    NR
24)   Central                  18   T25
25)   John Carroll             17    22


Dropped Out: Cortland, Wesley, Washington & Jefferson

Also Receiving Votes: Cortland (14), Monmouth (14), DePauw (12), St Lawrence (12), Stevenson (12), Wittenberg (7), UW-Stevens Point (4), Case Western Reserve (3), Coe (3), Whitworth (3), Washington & Jefferson (2), Alfred (1), Carthage (1)

Voters: 02 Warhawk, D3MAFAN-MG, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HSCTiger74, Mr. Ypsi, NCF and smedindy
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Mr. Ypsi

Two things that (mildly) surprised me:

Wesley dropping out was no surprise.  Wesley not receiving a single vote DID surprise me.

St. Lawrence not making the top 25 surprised me (I had them #21).  True, they haven't exactly faced "murderers' row", but going 118-ZERO against ANY three college teams is IMPRESSIVE.

smedindy

There's a lot of sorting out to do, still - and a lot of teams are still in the mix.
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